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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

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I'm not sure what the moon/ venus square suggests...
This could indicate that your partnerships/relationships and your emotional world need some adjusting to eachother. Emotional commitment in relationships could be a problem, or you could (subconsciously) look for partners that pose an emotional challenge for you. Btw, how is your relationship to your mum?
Also, Ven conj Ura could indicate frequent changing of partners, or changeability within relationships, which also accounts for excitement, or unconventional partners. Can you relate to any of the above?

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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

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This could indicate that your partnerships/relationships and your emotional world need some adjusting to eachother. Emotional commitment in relationships could be a problem, or you could (subconsciously) look for partners that pose an emotional challenge for you. Btw, how is your relationship to your mum?
Also, Ven conj Ura could indicate frequent changing of partners, or changeability within relationships, which also accounts for excitement, or unconventional partners. Can you relate to any of the above?

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moon square: Do I go for jerks?/ unobtainable men? answer = yes.! lol (but I think a lot of women do...)

about venus conjunct uranus: Could it indicate a temper? I have been told I can be very volatile in close relationships.... I can get bogged down by small restrictions and sometimes tend to lash out. Its something I am working on I haven't actually had many relationships, but yes my relationships are quite inconventional.

I am curious why you asked about my mother? Our relationship is fine, but we have never been extremely close or connected in a way that I have with my father. My mother is a worrier. It's almost like a reversal of roles sometimes and I feel like I am mothering her!!

ETA: I have had a number of intense / transient relationships even friendship wise. There have been times when I have been extremely close, and then there are sudden break offs........ i think this is prob due to venus/uranus aspect. gah!

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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

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about venus conjunct uranus: Could it indicate a temper? I have been told I can be very volatile in close relationships.... I can get bogged down by small restrictions and sometimes tend to lash out. Its something I am working on I haven't actually had many relationships, but yes my relationships are quite inconventional.
Well, needing space in relationships, being able to do one's own thing, and/or maintaining one's own identity can be the be-all and end-all for a Ura-Ven conjunct person. Venus, besides relationships, is also harmony and balance, whilst Uranus loves to upset the apple cart, so there you go on the volatile temper bit - the coming-and-going-suddenly kinds, but I would say that your temper is momentary and with this aspect you can't really be a nagger (unless you have a lot of earth in your chart, or Scorp).

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I am curious why you asked about my mother? Our relationship is fine, but we have never been extremely close or connected in a way that I have with my father.
I asked about your mother because in addition to your Ven-Ura conj, your Ven (relationship) is also squared (minor tension) by Moon (mother).

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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

fascinating. i have merc conjunct venus (virgo rising) in taurus in a loose (7d) conjunction to my MC ... i don't think i'm beautiful but i know many would argue otherwise
starlink's comment about being an ugly duckling until 17 was interesting b/c i'd looked at my kids' charts (who i think are stunning and so does everyone else so it's not just mama's bias!) and they don't have anything to point to that. my eldest daughter (14) is truly beautiful but has venus in scorpio ? mind you, her sun is libra which might help

my libra asc friends *all* are pear-shaped!!
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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

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I'm not sure what the moon/ venus square suggests...
depends on which houses Venus and Moon are ruling as well as what these two planets generally mean.

Moon represents our emotional makeover, how we react to what happens to us and to our surroundings. We absorb impressions through our Moons and then react accordingly to what we have perceived as either sad, aggressive, pleasant, etc.

Venus is the love goddess and shows how we accept and give out love.
The way we do this depends on the placement of Venus and also the aspects Venus makes to other planets.

A square is a tension creating aspect. It shows that the two planets involved can be openly divisive, work against and inhibit each other. The energy is restless and busy. When this energy is used positively, it can be one of the most productive forces going, if not, there can be tension, inertia and blockages. Especially squares involving the Moon, because the square in itself resonates with the Moon, Cardinal, Water and Cancer energy.

So the houses (life compartments) ruled by Moon and Venus, do not see eye to eye on things. Moon is not happy with the way Venus wants to behave and vice versa and an effort has to be made to make things work. There is a lot of creative tension here.

Together with your Venus conjunct Uranus aspect, this will not be easy. You tend to keep a distance from others or dont let them get too close. Very often Moon-Venus squares, but also oppositions influence relationships and marriage opportunities negatively.

Because Venus rules your Ascendant the urge to stay unattached is strong, but with a Libra Ascendant one usually wants to be in a relationship. You can see from this alone how contrary the energies are in your chart.
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I have been abused in the past
This has clearly left it's mark on you and you should consider doing something about this in order to forgive and let go of the past, because otherwise this will influence any future relationship you will have. You might unintentionally go on choosing the wrong type of men, who will repeat the abuse (maybe in a different form, like belittling you or not respecting you as you mentioned).
I hope you dont mind me saying this, but I think you deserve better than being seen as a trophy.

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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

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I've understood that Venus in the 12th is accidentally dignified being placed there.
Interesting topic... I have Venus conjunct Ascendant--technically in the 12th but within 3 degrees of the 1st house. I also consider it to be conjunct my Jupiter in the first (at 21 degrees Pisces). Pleased to read Venus conjunct Jupiter is one of the most beneficial aspects to have, since I read that those with planets in mutable signs tend to be very hard on themselves. Case in point, I'm a male, and get extremely envious of good-looking guys, especially when I see them with their woman.

I've been accused of being a "boaster" with my Jupiter on the ascendant...didn't realize that was the case. Oh well.

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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

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Interesting topic... I have Venus conjunct Ascendant--technically in the 12th but within 3 degrees of the 1st house. I also consider it to be conjunct my Jupiter in the first (at 21 degrees Pisces). Pleased to read Venus conjunct Jupiter is one of the most beneficial aspects to have, since I read that those with planets in mutable signs tend to be very hard on themselves. Case in point, I'm a male, and get extremely envious of good-looking guys, especially when I see them with their woman.

I've been accused of being a "boaster" with my Jupiter on the ascendant...didn't realize that was the case. Oh well.

Here's my chart:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...anschart-1.jpg
im a libra rising with venus in taurus...I get the same way with guys I find my self comparing myself to others all th etime and being extremely hard on myself to work out and become attractive.....same thing when I see them with there women...
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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

Okay, speaking of getting envious of good-looking guys, here's a celebrity who is really great-looking, and to boot, he's a very nice and warm guy (at least in interviews, and I don't doubt he is in life), which makes me even more envious, because that means he's got EVERYTHING going for him. I wish him nothing but the best but it's depressing to someone like me It's Chris Pine (the new Kirk in Star Trak out next year).

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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

the more venus aspects in a natal, the more attractive and "appeal" you have.

yes vista, all the libra risings i know carry their weight on the bottom half and their bodies are pear shaped (including myself.) and i have a handful of libra rising friends (i have lots of air in my chart so i attract them.)

i am a libra/pluto rising, and boy do i look/feel like a libra. if anyone is a pluto rising (of any sign) pluto intensifies the sign its in, and you REALLY look like your rising. funny thing is, whenever i look at a venus painting and look at her body, it reminds me so much of my own, the shape, the fullness, roundness, its so weird LOL...

and yes i have noticed all the leo risings carry their weight on the upper half, long legs and their shoulders tend to be broad as well.

i have a cousin who is a double sag with her venus exact same degree as her ascendant and she is a knockout

my grandma is a cancer/pluto/moon rising and she is the definition of a cancer rising (dont forget moon is on her asc too) so she has a round pale face, blue eyes, very pretty. she looked like a move star when she was young. i have noticed cancer risings have a very natural pretty face and they always wear minimal makeup.

i dont know if this is appropriate but i have noticed men with venus rising are always well endowed... LOL (sorry i had to say it)
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i dont know if this is appropriate but i have noticed men with venus rising are always well endowed... LOL (sorry i had to say it)
LOL, nothing inappropriate there, I can...um, vouch for that! Venus conjunct Ascendant in Pisces. Venus is exalted in Pisces, so that might..."explain" your observation, LOL!

Funny how people "notice these things" even through astrology!
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lol. an astrologer from greece told me the mars aspects show how the person is in sex, and even told me how you can tell the size!
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lol. an astrologer from greece told me the mars aspects show how the person is in sex, and even told me how you can tell the size!
LOL!
Hm..

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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

mars placement, and aspects
he didnt tell me every single one, but heres what i know so far.

when it touches jupiter makes it bigger. when it touches moon makes it wider and "fatter." lol. saturn it makes it smaller and thinner (especially the conjunction.) (i noticed when it trines saturn makes the person last longer) he also had told me when its square pluto its "brutal." (but i myself noticed that the saturn square and conjunction is the most brutal, but whatever.) when it touches venus the shape is nicer and "prettier." when it touches sun, gives more vitality and energy for sex. mercury makes it longer. not sure about neptune. uranus makes the person like unexpected sex, kinky, and fast.

i know this info might be contradictory, but this info is not from a book and it is from another astrologer, so feel free to put in ur own input. this might even be innapropriate. and this is totally off topic from this thread. so maybe it should be moved or something.
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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

kinky Aquarian...RIGHT HERE! With EROTIC Venus rising on my Pisces (exalted!) ascendant!
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loooooooooooooooooool!!!! yeah we should start a new thread.
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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

My mom has venus on her Asc. and I have always said that it like she releases pharmones in the air wherever she goes. Men like 20-30 years younger than her stare at her when she walks by. SHE's 51!
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i dont know if this is appropriate but i have noticed men with venus rising are always well endowed... LOL (sorry i had to say it)
ok, but not really. an ex of mine is a Libra rising but has Mars in Cancer - and not well endowed
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ok, but not really. an ex of mine is a Libra rising but has Mars in Cancer - and not well endowed
I think when VENUS said that Venus rising men can be well-endowed, she might have meant the planet actually rising, not necessarily the sign the planet rules....am I right VENUS? Because, as a man with Venus conjunct Ascendant, I can... vouch for that! *blushes* LOL!
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My mom has venus on her Asc. and I have always said that it like she releases pharmones in the air wherever she goes. Men like 20-30 years younger than her stare at her when she walks by. SHE's 51!

Okay, I know that by continuing to respond to these types of posts, it sounds lie I'm just... "boasting" and I don't mean to, but the "pheromone" topic triggered a memory from a few years ago.

Apparently, I was asked by some females colleagues if I used a pheromone cologne. I chuckled and said, "No, why?" They (they being several co-workers) responded, "Because almost every time I'm around you I feel like having sex" (said quietly, of course). Also, this past year, I've gotten hit on my a lot of older women too. Actually, women of all ages, but more so women 45-55ish. I'm 33, and it's not too awkward, but the "physical contact" in the flirting from them has occasionally been a bit much.

Interesting that Venus on the ascendant could do that with pheromones, lol!
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mars placement, and aspects
he didnt tell me every single one, but heres what i know so far.

when it touches jupiter makes it bigger. when it touches moon makes it wider and "fatter." lol. saturn it makes it smaller and thinner (especially the conjunction.) (i noticed when it trines saturn makes the person last longer) he also had told me when its square pluto its "brutal." (but i myself noticed that the saturn square and conjunction is the most brutal, but whatever.) when it touches venus the shape is nicer and "prettier." when it touches sun, gives more vitality and energy for sex. mercury makes it longer. not sure about neptune. uranus makes the person like unexpected sex, kinky, and fast.

i know this info might be contradictory, but this info is not from a book and it is from another astrologer, so feel free to put in ur own input. this might even be innapropriate. and this is totally off topic from this thread. so maybe it should be moved or something.
LOL!! I went back checked all my past boyfriends Mars aspects!!
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vista,
as it accurate???
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and yes, by venus rising i meant the planet.....and u have to look at mars aspects....not only placements
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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

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"Venus amplifies beauty, particularly when it is:

Conjunct the Ascendant, the Sun, the Moon, the Midheaven, or the ruler of the Ascendant.

In the 1st or 10th house.

In Taurus or Libra, the signs it rules.

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I have Venus conjuncting Mc. I don't consider myself very pretty but somehow I come across as someone that dresses well, and that catches some attention. I don't make much effort to look nice but unfortunately that aspect has brought a lot of jeaulousy from female friends or other women around me. Probably there is some kind of negative attraction associated with those aspects of Venus.
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Re: Angelina Jolie Venus on Asc

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I just read that Angelina Jolie has Venus on the Asc natally. Just wondering if anyone else have it? Would you say that you beauty stands out?

I think Angelina is beautiful of course, although she could eat some more but she must be too busy with all those kids, lol.
She is a Gemini with tendency to be thin. Also pressure being in the movie business also.

Can mean the dark hair with light eyes combination and a pleasant and refined manner if not downright beauty.
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I believe that Angelina Jolie's chart has a several indicators for beauty but one that sticks out that I have found in other good looking people is her moon trine neptune as well as venus on the ascendant. Also if the moon has no hard aspects I think this too helps. However not the case with Angelina Jolie. With venus on the ASC there is more chance that her beauty will stand out to the world. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder when Neptune is concerned. Well aspected moon seems to aid curves on the body. Interesting topic.

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