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Unread 03-07-2013, 08:02 PM
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Reversed Houses and the Nodes

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I'm confused by the Nodes. If the North Node points to your destiny and you're supposed to transcend your South Node, what do you do when you have Libra Rising and your houses are reversed?

My North Node is exactly conjunct my midheaven at 4 degrees Cancer. Not to mention my sun is conjunct my South Node in Capricorn and I'm at least 65% Saturnian. Am I supposed to transcend myself to become myself??

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Unread 03-07-2013, 11:55 PM
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Re: Reversed Houses and the Nodes

I'm not sure what you mean about the house reversal.

The south node is called 'Ketu' in Hindu astrology, and Ketu apparently means 'flag'. I believe it's helpful to think of Ketu's position as indicating previously 'conquered' territory, stuff you've got 'in the bag', so you don't need to develop it any more.

If the Sun is with Ketu, then you're not going to need to develop your solar qualities.

In my experience, there seems to be less 'need' involved with Ketu. When Rahu is in effect, you develop whatever Rahu indicates. With Ketu, you simply fall back to familiar territory.
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Re: Reversed Houses and the Nodes

Thanks for your response Moog. What I meant by house reversal (maybe I'm not using the correct term) is when Ascendant is in an early degree of Libra making the house fall in its opposite sign, so 1st in Libra, 4th in capricorn, 7th in Aries, 12th in Cancer.

It creates a bit of a paradox. I have trouble wrapping my brain around it. Especially with the nodes, where there is supposed to be such a clear cut south is one direction and north is the other. So how can I move away from the 4th (cancernian) house in capricorn towards the 10th (capricornian) house in cancer?

I might not be making any sense. I'm getting a lot of that lately... Maybe it's mercury retrograde.
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Re: Reversed Houses and the Nodes

The delineation of the Nodes regarding karmic directions and manifestations, is only ONE interpretation of the Nodes (and, indeed, the most difficult and advanced, esoteric interpretation) The Nodes also have indications of a more prosaic nature, similar to the planets, which can be delineated at the "regular" (non-karmic) level of typical natal chart analysis (and prediction as well) The North and South only refer to the points (of the intersection of the Moon's orbit with the plane of the Earth) of the ecliptic (the NN is the northern point of this intersection of the ecliptic, the SN is the southern point of this intersection of the ecliptic) and have no bearing, as such, on the directional relation of signs (as Northern or Southern signs)
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Re: Reversed Houses and the Nodes

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Thanks for your response Moog. What I meant by house reversal (maybe I'm not using the correct term) is when Ascendant is in an early degree of Libra making the house fall in its opposite sign, so 1st in Libra, 4th in capricorn, 7th in Aries, 12th in Cancer.

It creates a bit of a paradox. I have trouble wrapping my brain around it. Especially with the nodes, where there is supposed to be such a clear cut south is one direction and north is the other. So how can I move away from the 4th (cancernian) house in capricorn towards the 10th (capricornian) house in cancer?

I might not be making any sense. I'm getting a lot of that lately... Maybe it's mercury retrograde.
No, I understand you.

Though I do think some house meanings are analogous to the signs as we find them in their zodiacal order, they are not the same thing. I think it's quite common for people to conflate them, it does make learning them more convenient. But then you have to mentally 'uncouple' them, which can be problematic.

The houses show manifestations of 'things' in our lives. The signs 'clothe' them, because the things are bought into being by the planet that rules the sign on the house cusp.

So, rather than thinking that house 7 is the same as Libra, it's more that, in your case, the matters of house 7 (which are Venusian in nature) are bought about through the lens of Mars, and his condition in your chart influences his ability and manner of doing that.
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Unread 03-08-2013, 11:12 AM
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Re: Reversed Houses and the Nodes

Moog, your explanation makes me feel a lot better. Thanks!
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Re: Reversed Houses and the Nodes

Thanks Dr. Farr. I have a lot left to learn. I should probably stay away from anything difficult or advanced. Thanks for the note of caution!
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