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Derek Chauvin presented the testimony
of medical examiner/forensic pathologist Dr. David Fowler.

He offered different (and often unsupportable) opinions
than all other experts on George Floyd's cause and manner of death.

Here's a takedown of his testimony
and why he likely lost more points than he won for the defense.


Why Chauvin's Expert Witness
Medical Examiner David Fowler
Actually LOST Points for the Defense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TU-FYfpXxw




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MANNER OF DEATH of George Floyd ruled a HOMICIDE
by Andrew M Baker



Chauvin Trial Day 14 Wrap-Up:


Mistrial Narrowly Avoided



Closing Arguments Monday


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There are times during a criminal trial when constitutional rights collide:
a defendant's 6th Amendment right
to compel witnesses to testify in his/her defense

collides with a witness's 5th Amendment right

against self-incrimination.

This situation has presented itself
in the Derek Chauvin trial for the murder of George Floyd.
Chavin's attorney wants to call Maurise Hall
as a witness because Hall allegedly provided drugs to Floyd.

However, Hall's attorney asserts
that her client has a right against self-incrimination
and can not be compelled to testify.


Here's how judges generally navigate
this thorny clash of constitutional rights.
When Rights Collide:

Chauvin's Right to Call Witness vs. Witness Right Against Self-Incrimination

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Looks like an appeal to overturn a guilty verdict is a certainty. And, that it has a chance of winning.
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Looks like an appeal to overturn a guilty verdict
is a certainty.
And, that it has a chance of winning.
Chauvin Trial: Emergency Room Dr. Testified Floyd was Asphyxiated
essentially "...dead on arrival..."
and
Chief of Police stated - Force Used Was Excessive

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In some of the most important testimony yet

at the Derek Chauvin trial for the murder of George Floyd
a 30-year Minneapolis police officer, LT Richard Zimmerman
testified that

Chauvin's use of force was "...absolutely unnecessary..."
and
"....uncalled for...." given the circumstances.
Why is this testimony so critical to the prosecution case?
Here's why
Police LT Richard Zimmerman Testifies that
Force Chauvin used on Floyd "....Absolutely Unnecessary...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTL9dQLPhYI


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In stark contrast to the medical witnesses heard from the prosecution
Dr. Fowler testified that
the cause of George Floyd’s death was everything but Chauvin.
But Joy says the entire testimony ‘...imploded...’
once the prosecution picked apart his findings during cross examination.
Fowler conceded multiple points
including that a lack of bruising and other injuries
do not prove that Floyd did not die of asphyxia
and that the weight of Chauvin's gear was not factored
into his calculation of the force applied to Floyd's neck.
Aired on 04/14/2021.

Prosecution Dismantles Defense Witness Theories
About Cause Of Floyd’s Death
The ReidOut
MSNBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmqJrlmFPYk

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The Defense rested its case yesterday. There was almost a MISTRIAL on the last day!!!

The Prosecution did not disclose a certain blood test to the Defense back in Feb as they were legally bound to do. They only gave it to the Defense at 8am on April 15th.

The Judge was angry at them & advised the Prosecution that he wasn't going to accuse them of 'bad faith' but that they could not refer to this test in any way to the Jury or there would be a mistrial. He said he would not hesitate to declare a mistrial immed if the prosecution broke the rule. Wow, it was extremely tense exchange.

Judge warns of mistrial in Chauvin case if prosecution witness even 'hints' at 'newly discovered evidence'


https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...n-witness-even



Today (April 16) Judge Cahill will present the Jury instructions.

Monday (April 19th) will be concluding speeches by both the Prosecution and Defense.

The Jury will then be sequestered until they reach a verdict. Judge Cahill told them to bring along a bag as it could take them 10 hours or even 10 days to reach a verdict.



#WatchingtheWatchers #DerekChauvin #Chauvin
Chauvin Trial Day 25 Analysis: You Have the Right to Remain Silent​




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The Testimony was very credible. All the defense need to do is put 'reasonable doubt' into the cause of Floyd's death.

Upon cross-examination of the prosecution witnesses, there were conflicting responses as to what was the real cause of Floyd's death. One expert agreed that the amount of drugs in his system was enough to cause breathing problems. He also had covid, had a 90% blockage in his heart & took an overdose of dangerous drugs in the back of the police car.

That's what trials are for. It is the job of the prosecution to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt. I don't think they did it in this trial. The lone defense lawyer did a very good job as did many of the 14 prosecutors.

It is now up to the Jury to decide the outcome.

But whatever the verdict, the violent mobs are going to riot just like they did last summer. They already started the first day of the trial.
I don't think the Jury will even feel safe rendering an acquittal because the thugs will go to their homes and kill them.


Defense expert found Floyd's manner of death to be undetermined, not homicide


David Fowler, former chief medical examiner of Maryland, said he believed that Mr. Floyd died from cardiac arrhythmia.



Defense, prosecution both rested their cases
Derek Chauvin chose not to take the stand in his own defense
Jury dismissed, to return Monday for closing arguments
Judge told jury to 'plan for long and hope for short' deliberation
Prosecution called pulmonologist Dr. Martin Tobin as rebuttal witness
Former Maryland chief medical examiner Fowler: 'Mr. Floyd had a sudden cardiac arrhythmia' during restraint
Dr. Fowler testified that drugs, heart disease, carbon monoxide and paraganglioma tumor were contributors


https://www.12newsnow.com/article/ne...8-ba8890f3de0d





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In stark contrast to the medical witnesses heard from the prosecution
Dr. Fowler testified that
the cause of George Floyd’s death was everything but Chauvin.
But Joy says the entire testimony ‘...imploded...’
once the prosecution picked apart his findings during cross examination.
Fowler conceded multiple points
including that a lack of bruising and other injuries
do not prove that Floyd did not die of asphyxia
and that the weight of Chauvin's gear was not factored
into his calculation of the force applied to Floyd's neck.
Aired on 04/14/2021.

Prosecution Dismantles Defense Witness Theories
About Cause Of Floyd’s Death
The ReidOut
MSNBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmqJrlmFPYk

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Judge, prosecutors and the defense team return to court

following the end of testimony

to discuss jury instructions in the Chauvin trial.


Derek Chauvin Trial: Judge, attorneys discuss jury instructions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yezb3P8z2Kc

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In stark contrast to the medical witnesses heard from the prosecution
Dr. Fowler testified that
the cause of George Floyd’s death was everything but Chauvin.
But Joy says the entire testimony ‘...imploded...’
once the prosecution picked apart his findings during cross examination.
Fowler conceded multiple points
including that a lack of bruising and other injuries
do not prove that Floyd did not die of asphyxia
and that the weight of Chauvin's gear was not factored
into his calculation of the force applied to Floyd's neck.
Aired on 04/14/2021.

Prosecution Dismantles Defense Witness Theories
About Cause Of Floyd’s Death
The ReidOut
MSNBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmqJrlmFPYk

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Here are the latest case updates
for former Minneapolis police officers
Derek Chauvin, J. Alexander Kueng, Tou Thao and Thomas Lane,
charged in the death of George Floyd
Jury deliberations will begin after closing arguments Monday
in a secretive process largely unknown to the general public.

In Derek Chauvin trial, jurors face enormous responsibility

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If the jurors fear for their lives, this may end in a hung jury.
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If the jurors fear for their lives, this may end in a hung jury.
I'm guessing a guilty verdict, then a long, drawn-out appeal.

If the verdict is overturned, based on improprieties by the prosecution, they may change the venue for a new trial.
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If the jurors fear for their lives,

this may end in a hung jury.
As we watch the witnesses testify
about how
they saw

four police officers,

including Derek Chauvin,

kill George Floyd,

we should keep in mind that
the witnesses experienced extreme trauma themselves.
Several witnesses yelled, screamed, begged and pleaded
with the police to stop killing George Floyd.

Two teenage witnesses testified that they feel guilty
that they didn't
or couldn't
do anything

to stop the murder
that was occurring before their eyes.

Beyond the impact on George Floyd, his family
the witnesses and the Minneapolis community

how does the videotape impact the thinking
of everyday Americans when they are deciding
whether to call the police?
Millions of Americans have now seen that
when the police are called for a minor offense
- passing a fake $20 bill

four armed police officers show up
and intentionally kill the suspect
in broad daylight
in front of several witnesses
one of whom was herself a firefighter
and emergency medical technician.

Might other citizens in need of police assistance
hesitate
before calling police

after seeing what Chauvin and his fellow offices did to George Floyd?

How the Police Victimized Not Only George Floyd
But The Witnesses As Well

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Derek Chauvin trial for the murder of George Floyd
saw people from several walks of life
testifying that what they saw Chauvin do was wrong

several saying that they saw the officers "...kill George Floyd...."
Chauvin Trial Multiple Witnesses "...Call the Police on the Police...."
for What They Saw Chauvin Do


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MN v. Derek Chauvin Trial


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Derek Chauvin Trial:
Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin
is charged with second and third-degree murder
and second degree manslaughter.



KARE 11's Lou Raguse explains
what it will take to find Chauvin guilty on each count.
What's needed to convict on each charge
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Chauvin trial
State says defense made a mistatement when discussing intent
during closing argument

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rik4TMy08Mc


'....Most healthy human beings cannot hold their breath for 2 min.

This man fought for his life
by doing everything possible to breath in limited oxygen

and

he was deprived of that.

This was an execution in brought daylight. Very sad....'


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So it's already been decided?
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So it's already been decided?
The closing arguments had some interesting twists and turns.
Here's a review of the performance

and some of the best lines of prosecutors
Steve Schleicher
and
Jerry Blackwell
and
some of the problematic arguments of defense attorney Eric Nelson.

And now we wait for justice for George Floyd.
Because Justice Matters.
A Recap of the Closing Arguments
in the Derek Chauvin Case.

It's ALL OVER BUT THE JUSTICE

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"And now we wait for justice for George Floyd. "

I hope there will be real justice for BOTH men, victim and accused.
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"And now we wait for justice for George Floyd. "
I hope there will be real justice for BOTH men, victim and accused.

Judge says that
Rep. Waters may cause entire Chauvin case being overturned

The judge said that Rep. Maxine Waters

comments on the Chauvin trial

may cause the entire case being overturned on appeal

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Now that's an interesting development.

She should be banned from all social for inciting violence, like they've done to others.
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Derek Chauvin trial:

Jury deliberates on Chauvin's three charges

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Criminal defender Michael Brandt weighs in

on closing arguments in the Chauvin trial
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