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Re: cancer or leo?

To me i think you might be a leo sun /pisces rising with cancer moon with venus in libra. some one born between 21st june to 30th june.


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Re: cancer or leo?

You might have a 4 as you birth number i.e, 4, 22,13


You seem to have a personality type of number 4 and the second number a 2 or a 5

22-06-1989
04-07-1989
13-07-1989
22-07-1989
04-08-1989
13-08-1989

Or a 5-08-1989


05-08-1989 could match with you to give a 5 and a 4 personality type.

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Re: cancer or leo?

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Since I'm an adopted child, my birthdate is not known accurately.
my sun sign either is cancer or leo.
useful if you would state the data on which your birth is based
i.e
whether on medical records
or birth certificate
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I don't have a chance to find my birth parents and learn;
so I'm trying horary.
sorry if asking this type of questions is not appropriate.
this type of question is not appropriate for horary
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wrong. Kp astrology uses horary for btr.

that is misleading

kp astrology is Vedic sidereal
our horary boards are western tropical

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When I look at the chart, moon conjunct ascendant. This makes me think of cancer. Mars is the chart ruler, its last aspect with mercury which is in cancer received by moon.

What do you think? Could you please share your opinion?
guessing and speculation is fun but unreliable

IF the birth data
is AT ALL reliable
then
there is the option to use one of the many rectification methods
such as prenatal epoch


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The horary chart that you casted can be used for birth time rectification.

Are you born in 1996 or 1984?

that is misleading

our horary boards are western tropical
with western tropical charts
and

western tropical horary

cannot use horary for birthtime rectification

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Re: cancer or leo?

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My birth year 1989
Thanks kalinka for mentioning horary astrology can help me with my question.

kalinka did not mention that KP horary uses VEDIC SIDEREAL

not western tropical


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Re: cancer or leo?

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I'm using Kp astrology to answer the question.
KP Astrology is Vedic Sidereal

post the chart you are using to answer the question

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There are 2 methods. The following infos I get from your chart: Ruling Planets are Sa, Ma, Me, Mo, Ra, Ke.
First method: Since we have 2 options (1. Cancer or 2. Leo), we just have to decide which option is the right one. Therefore I only use the RPs. Answer here would be Cancer.
2nd method is to do a birth time rectification: In 1989 Jupiter was in sidereal taurus sign till June 15. From June 16 Jupiter was in Gemini. Mercury is ruler of Gemini and is one of the RPs, hence we can delimit the time frame (June 16-end 1989).
For the right month we look if the Rps appear in the Sun sign. This would be from June 15 till August 15, October and December. If you are sure that you could only be Cancer or Leo, then we can exclude Oct. and Dec..
For the right day we have to examine:Moon's Sign+Starlord, Sun's Sign+Star+Sublord,Sun's Sublord should be connected to Moon's Sign or Starlord in some way, moon's sign+starlord should be linked to the RP Moon sign+star in both levels. At the end only 4 dates are left: 22.6.,23.6.,21.7. and 11.8.. So you could be born at one of these days. In 1989 Sun was in tropical Cancer from June 21 till July 22. That's why it's quite likely that you are Cancer Sun and not Leo.
..... from June 15 till August 15, October and December...

is vague

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The right day

and also your ascendant sign

could be found out
but this takes much more time
and more informations about your life are needed.
i.e.

clearly an inappropriate question for horary

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Re: cancer or leo?

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kalinka did not mention that KP horary uses VEDIC SIDEREAL

not western tropical


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Hi JUPITERASC

I know she used sidereal astrology. She meant sidereal gemini which is tropical cancer. I understand it.

Why are you so stubborn not giving a chance to such questions. Are you a taurus or taurus south node?

I believe we can ask such questions too. This is my opinion, that is your opinion. I think we can have different opinions.
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Re: cancer or leo?

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You might have a 4 as you birth number i.e, 4, 22,13


You seem to have a personality type of number 4 and the second number a 2 or a 5

22-06-1989
04-07-1989
13-07-1989
22-07-1989
04-08-1989
13-08-1989

Or a 5-08-1989


05-08-1989 could match with you to give a 5 and a 4 personality type.
Nightsky, omg Thanks a lot. i am gonna look at all these days to see which fits better.

Thank you soo much. You are wonderful.
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Re: cancer or leo?

1. The horary chart that was casted CAN answer the question: "Am I Cancer or Leo Sun sign?" even with western methods.
2. Kp astrology is vedic with sidereal zodiac but nevertheless Kp uses horary for btr.
3. Moreover, I mentioned it that I use Kp methods with sidereal zodiac for the btr. It's not necessarily to post any vedic sidereal chart that I used for the btr because all I needed are the Ruling Planets (also mentioned), which I got from the horary chart that the querent posted. If you really need the same chart in sidereal zodiac, I think you know how to calculate it.
4." from June 15 till August 15, October and December...is vague"...why???

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Hi JUPITERASC
I know she used sidereal astrology.

She meant sidereal gemini which is tropical cancer.

I understand it.
Why are you so stubborn

not giving a chance to such questions.
Are you a taurus or taurus south node?
nothing to do with stubbonness
quite simply
horary astrology is not designed to answer your question
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I believe we can ask such questions too.
This is my opinion, that is your opinion.
I think we can have different opinions.
you are entitled to your beliefs
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Re: cancer or leo?

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1. The horary chart that was casted CAN answer the question:
"Am I Cancer or Leo Sun sign?" even with western methods.
you are entitled to an opinion

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2. Kp astrology is vedic with sidereal zodiac but nevertheless Kp uses horary for btr.
3. Moreover, I mentioned it that I use Kp methods with sidereal zodiac for the btr. It's not necessarily to post any vedic sidereal chart that I used for the btr because all I needed are the Ruling Planets (also mentioned), which I got from the horary chart that the querent posted. If you really need the same chart in sidereal zodiac, I think you know how to calculate it.
4." from June 15 till August 15, October and December...is vague"...why???
as to why June 15 - August 15, October and December is vague
explain your reason HOW it is exact/precise

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Re: cancer or leo?

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You might have a 4 as you birth number i.e, 4, 22,13


You seem to have a personality type of number 4 and the second number a 2 or a 5

22-06-1989
04-07-1989
13-07-1989
22-07-1989
04-08-1989
13-08-1989

Or a 5-08-1989


05-08-1989 could match with you to give a 5 and a 4 personality type.
nothing to do with horary


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you are entitled to an opinion


as to why June 15 - August 15, October and December is vague
explain your reason HOW it is exact/precise

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I want to share my opinion. It doesn't need to be exact. what is precise? I don't know my birthday accurately. This is a difficult situation. Kalinka and Nightsky helped me and shared their interpretations with me and it means me a lot to me. I'm happy that this forum is available. Is the outcome of every horary question is precise? This one doesn't need to be. Who knows, maybe the date is one of them. God knows.
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Re: cancer or leo?

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I want to share my opinion.
we all are entitled to our opinions and to share those opinions
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It doesn't need to be exact.
what is precise?
I don't know my birthday accurately.

This is a difficult situation.
realistically
reliable natal delineation
- at the very minimum
requires reliable time of birth on actual day of birth
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Kalinka and Nightsky helped me
and shared their interpretations with me
and it means me a lot to me.
I'm happy that this forum is available.
that's great - I'm happy that you are happy
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Is the outcome of every horary question is precise?
This one doesn't need to be.
It is the nature of an horary question
- and whether it is appropriate for horary
that is important
and
not whether the outcome is precise or not
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Who knows, maybe the date is one of them.
God knows.
that is the key
horary doesn't know

i.e.
there is no way horary can answer your question

NEVERTHELESS
being adopted must be difficult
and so
since you are happy with non-horary speculation
then that's great
by the way
consider having your DNA tested
because
would be amazing if you discovered
a DNA match
that led to you finding your biological family members!
DNA is precise and exact

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nothing to do with horary


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Hi jupi,

Yes, it is not a horary. She has asked a question in horary and I have noticed that she is very desperately needing help. I just wanted to help her someway I hope that, with the personality number traits I could find a number that matches with her personality and with that we cast a chart and see which the planets sits in which sign that time.

Is it wrong to experiment? After all we all are here to learn and one can correct us when we are wrong.

Seems that you are in correcting mode today
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you are entitled to an opinion

you are also entitled to your opinion. Just because you can't read it, it doesn't mean that it isn't possible.


as to why June 15 - August 15, October and December is vague
explain your reason HOW it is exact/precise

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You are somehow a bean counter...If you did read my full analysis, then you should also noticed that these dates are just steps to reach another step. June 15-August 15 is not vague. This is the time when sidereal Moon and Mercury appeared in the Sun sign in 1989. October and December might be vague for you but I purposely didn't go into more detail because Neptunian seems to be sure that her birthdate must be before october.
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Re: cancer or leo?

Seriously, I do not know these calculations and these posh way of mentioning details of angles, degrees, formulas but I can sense things and get the answers.

Its more like most bookworms aren't perfect nor they achieved something? Some illiterates have proved so much which a pro cannot. Cos they are born with somethings others cannot. That way I think kalinga is right some way with her experiments and I have noticed she is better in her predictions.

Experimenting is not wrong at all.
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Hi jupi,

Yes, it is not a horary. She has asked a question in horary and I have noticed that she is very desperately needing help. I just wanted to help her someway I hope that, with the personality number traits I could find a number that matches with her personality and with that we cast a chart and see which the planets sits in which sign that time.

Is it wrong to experiment? After all we all are here to learn and one can correct us when we are wrong.

Seems that you are in correcting mode today
Yes, i desperately need help on this matter. Thanks for all the guidance you are doing.
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You are somehow a bean counter...If you did read my full analysis, then you should also noticed that these dates are just steps to reach another step. June 15-August 15 is not vague. This is the time when sidereal Moon and Mercury appeared in the Sun sign in 1989. October and December might be vague for you but I purposely didn't go into more detail because Neptunian seems to be sure that her birthdate must be before october.
Yes, Kalinka. It is for sure; before october.
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Yes, i desperately need help on this matter.
Thanks for all the guidance you are doing.


AUTOSOMAL DNA is reliable

and may match your DNA to an unknown family member
worth checking out

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I am a homebody, very close to mom, i prefer solitude with a few close ones.
All these sound like cancer. what do you think? Thanks again
Not just cancers are homebody. I've seen many pisces are homebody than cancers especially men 😆

Btw do you like cooking or just being at home.


I have a feel that you are a pisces rising.
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Not just cancers are homebody. I've seen many pisces are homebody than cancers especially men 😆

Btw do you like cooking or just being at home.


I have a feel that you are a pisces rising.
Thanks Nightsky. I agree, it could be. Pisces rising fits.

Not much interested in cooking. Let's say just being at home.
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