piercethevale
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This is yet another thread I am initiating to demonstrate that the Astrological Parts are symbolically active ...(as to the degree symbols known collectively as the Sabian Symbols)
The Hermetic lot of Eros (Asc. + Venus - Part of Soul/Spirit) reveals through the Sabian Symbol found for the degree it is derived to be at the kind of people we consciously (or inherently without conscious thought towards the matter) seek as our compaNions on our spiritual path.
That which I derived from the chart I contend is the birth chart of the man known presently as Jesus (Yeshu'a) of Nazareth is in the 25th degree of Leo.
Read the following and most of you of Christian faith and or upbringing should be able to easily see the connection. From Dane Rudhyar's book on the Sabian Symbols, "An Astrological Mandala", the following:
"LEO 25°: A LARGE CAMEL IS SEEN CROSSING A VAST AND FORBIDDING DESERT.
KEYNOTE: Self-sufficiency in the face of a long and exhausting adventure.
The camel here represents a living organism that is able to sustain itself independently of its environment at the start of a trying journey. (The original formulation of the symbol did not refer to 'a man on camel back'.) The organism carries within itself what is absolutely needed for survival. At the deeper human level of consciousness it is easy to see the value of self-reliance and self-sufficiency as one enters the occult Path leading to a more dynamic and more inclusive realm of existence.
The camel carries water within its body, and it is said that the dromedary is able to utilize the matter stored in its large protuberance as food. The suggestion here is that in order to be released from bondage to the 'old world' we should be completely self-contained emotionally; having absorbed the mental food which this old culture has given us, we are ready to face "the desert," nothingness, Sunya . . . until we reach the 'new world'. We need TOTAL INDEPENDENCE from our surroundings and utter SELF-RELIANCE."
"Give away all your earthly treasures and follow me." He said
"A voice cries out, "Even in the desert, a path for our God'."
Another example is that derived from the natal chart of the USA (the "Zero Hour" chart, i.e. 12:00:01 A.M. July 4, 1776. Philadelphia, Penn.) It is in the 7th degree of Aquarius and conjunct the S. Node (My N. Node...and btw the 25th of Leo is my M.C. and Part of Fortune)
(ibid.)
"AQUARIUS 7°: A CHILD IS SEEN BEING BORN OUT OF AN EGG.
KEYNOTE: The emergence of new mutations according to the great rhythms of the cosmos.
The ancient symbolism of the Cosmic Egg (Hiranyagharba in Sanskrit) out of which a new universe is born can be interpreted at several levels. Here we see the appearance of a new type of human being who is not born from 'Ancestors' and who therefore is free from the inertia of mankind's past. He is a new product of evolution, a mutant. He constitutes a fresh projection of the creative Spirit that emanates from the cosmic or planetary Whole, and not from any local culture and racial tradition.
This second stage symbol is in contrast with the preceding one. It can be said to announce the EMERGENCE OF GLOBAL MAN for the New Age. The power of the whole is focused within him in perfect freedom from ancient standards of value based on local conditions.
I think it's easy to see why the 7th of Aquarius is the S. Node for the USA as it was those kind of men that were the forefathers of the Union yet they are the type of people we, as an American society, seek from other societies as our comrades, our spiritual brethren, on the nations spiritual journey>
The reverse formula for the Part of Eros (Asc. + Part of Soul - Venus) reveals through the Sabian Symbol found for the degree of the Tropical Zodiac it is found in those people that seek you as to be their companion on their spiritual paths.
For an example mine is in the 12th of Virgo. (ibid.)
"VIRGO 12°: AFTER THE WEDDING, THE GROOM SNATCHES THE VEIL AWAY FROM HIS BRIDE.
KEYNOTE: The penetrating and unveiling power of the trained mind.
In contrast to the preceding symbol we have now a scene stressing a physical action with psychological and/or spiritual overtones. In ancient cosmologies the male god often appears in three roles as son, husband and father of the woman element of nature. Nature is fulfilled by the human mind and will that overcome her; she resists only better to be subdued by the power that transcends her, and by transcending her gives her a spiritual meaning. The element of "'training' in the symbolic scene comes from the fact that there has been a marriage ritual; thus the sociocultural factor is in the background. The teacher-guru is here the priest who has performed the ritual.
At this second stage the rules are reversed, the masculine element assuming the dynamic positive part in the great play of polarity. The masculine act balances the feminine dream visualization. The Keyword is UNVEILING. There can also be an unveiling of mysteries, long protected by secrecy.
... I didn't discover that for a number of years after I chose to go by the online name of piercethevale... kind of fits, doesn't it?
ptv
This is yet another thread I am initiating to demonstrate that the Astrological Parts are symbolically active ...(as to the degree symbols known collectively as the Sabian Symbols)
The Hermetic lot of Eros (Asc. + Venus - Part of Soul/Spirit) reveals through the Sabian Symbol found for the degree it is derived to be at the kind of people we consciously (or inherently without conscious thought towards the matter) seek as our compaNions on our spiritual path.
That which I derived from the chart I contend is the birth chart of the man known presently as Jesus (Yeshu'a) of Nazareth is in the 25th degree of Leo.
Read the following and most of you of Christian faith and or upbringing should be able to easily see the connection. From Dane Rudhyar's book on the Sabian Symbols, "An Astrological Mandala", the following:
"LEO 25°: A LARGE CAMEL IS SEEN CROSSING A VAST AND FORBIDDING DESERT.
KEYNOTE: Self-sufficiency in the face of a long and exhausting adventure.
The camel here represents a living organism that is able to sustain itself independently of its environment at the start of a trying journey. (The original formulation of the symbol did not refer to 'a man on camel back'.) The organism carries within itself what is absolutely needed for survival. At the deeper human level of consciousness it is easy to see the value of self-reliance and self-sufficiency as one enters the occult Path leading to a more dynamic and more inclusive realm of existence.
The camel carries water within its body, and it is said that the dromedary is able to utilize the matter stored in its large protuberance as food. The suggestion here is that in order to be released from bondage to the 'old world' we should be completely self-contained emotionally; having absorbed the mental food which this old culture has given us, we are ready to face "the desert," nothingness, Sunya . . . until we reach the 'new world'. We need TOTAL INDEPENDENCE from our surroundings and utter SELF-RELIANCE."
"Give away all your earthly treasures and follow me." He said
"A voice cries out, "Even in the desert, a path for our God'."
Another example is that derived from the natal chart of the USA (the "Zero Hour" chart, i.e. 12:00:01 A.M. July 4, 1776. Philadelphia, Penn.) It is in the 7th degree of Aquarius and conjunct the S. Node (My N. Node...and btw the 25th of Leo is my M.C. and Part of Fortune)
(ibid.)
"AQUARIUS 7°: A CHILD IS SEEN BEING BORN OUT OF AN EGG.
KEYNOTE: The emergence of new mutations according to the great rhythms of the cosmos.
The ancient symbolism of the Cosmic Egg (Hiranyagharba in Sanskrit) out of which a new universe is born can be interpreted at several levels. Here we see the appearance of a new type of human being who is not born from 'Ancestors' and who therefore is free from the inertia of mankind's past. He is a new product of evolution, a mutant. He constitutes a fresh projection of the creative Spirit that emanates from the cosmic or planetary Whole, and not from any local culture and racial tradition.
This second stage symbol is in contrast with the preceding one. It can be said to announce the EMERGENCE OF GLOBAL MAN for the New Age. The power of the whole is focused within him in perfect freedom from ancient standards of value based on local conditions.
I think it's easy to see why the 7th of Aquarius is the S. Node for the USA as it was those kind of men that were the forefathers of the Union yet they are the type of people we, as an American society, seek from other societies as our comrades, our spiritual brethren, on the nations spiritual journey>
The reverse formula for the Part of Eros (Asc. + Part of Soul - Venus) reveals through the Sabian Symbol found for the degree of the Tropical Zodiac it is found in those people that seek you as to be their companion on their spiritual paths.
For an example mine is in the 12th of Virgo. (ibid.)
"VIRGO 12°: AFTER THE WEDDING, THE GROOM SNATCHES THE VEIL AWAY FROM HIS BRIDE.
KEYNOTE: The penetrating and unveiling power of the trained mind.
In contrast to the preceding symbol we have now a scene stressing a physical action with psychological and/or spiritual overtones. In ancient cosmologies the male god often appears in three roles as son, husband and father of the woman element of nature. Nature is fulfilled by the human mind and will that overcome her; she resists only better to be subdued by the power that transcends her, and by transcending her gives her a spiritual meaning. The element of "'training' in the symbolic scene comes from the fact that there has been a marriage ritual; thus the sociocultural factor is in the background. The teacher-guru is here the priest who has performed the ritual.
At this second stage the rules are reversed, the masculine element assuming the dynamic positive part in the great play of polarity. The masculine act balances the feminine dream visualization. The Keyword is UNVEILING. There can also be an unveiling of mysteries, long protected by secrecy.
... I didn't discover that for a number of years after I chose to go by the online name of piercethevale... kind of fits, doesn't it?
ptv