Trial Of Derek Chauvin - Officer Accused Of Killing George Floyd

JUPITERASC · Mar 21, 2021

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HonourAndDevotion said:
too much water.
last decan of pisces ruled by mars already. i can confirm that.
moon and mars in mutual reception. (what's your tought on this JA)

a lot of criminals
policians
military generals
have water grand trines. or excessive water dominance.

I will not know if it is from scheat or the element.
as for the degrees you mentioned for pisces.
im with you on this, sounds like a bit of a problemic degrees to me too.
but much more samples are needed to bring some new theories
or maybe it's just from the Mars decan... idk

I used to be very unstable even just being a SunCan.
Can you guess What kind of an intensity when chart is completely water.

Good point

We are also hampered

by not having a time of birth

from official records such as birth certificate, medical records

.

ElenaJ · Mar 21, 2021

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Lots of demonising water sun signs here, which really sounds very superficial.
However, when the event took place, shortly afterwards, I seem to remember there was a thread and a natal chart with birth time was posted for him. Anyone recall this? I'm not sure how to even do a search for it on the forum.

JUPITERASC · Mar 21, 2021

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ElenaJ said:
Lots of demonising water sun signs here, which really sounds very superficial.

what is superficial is the accusation of "..demonising..." water signs

when in fact

all that has occurred is HIGHLIGHTING
that Derek Chauvin natal has
six of the seven traditional planets in Pisces
obviously
one is simply HIGHLIGHTING that unusual fact
which is even more unusual
because associated with a possible 3rd degree murder charge

ElenaJ said:
However, when the event took place, shortly afterwards,
I seem to remember there was a thread
and a natal chart with birth time was posted for him.
Anyone recall this?
I'm not sure how to even do a search for it on the forum.

ElenaJ · Mar 21, 2021

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HonourAndDevotion said:
too much water.
last decan of pisces ruled by mars already. i can confirm that.
moon and mars in mutual reception. (what's your tought on this JA)

a lot of criminals
policians
military generals
have water grand trines. or excessive water dominance.

I will not know if it is from scheat or the element.
as for the degrees you mentioned for pisces.
im with you on this, sounds like a bit of a problemic degrees to me too.
but much more samples are needed to bring some new theories
or maybe it's just from the Mars decan... idk

I used to be very unstable even just being a SunCan.
Can you guess What kind of an intensity when chart is completely water.

JA I wasn't referring to you, but something like the above.

blackbery · Mar 21, 2021

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A cop who has disciplinary charges doesn't mean he's a killer or a racist.

You are jumping to conclusions & making assumptions.

From what I saw with the Jury selection, you would not qualify to sit on the bench as you have already made up your mind that Chauvin is guilty.

The people selected, both black & white, had to ensure the Judge that they would be open-minded about looking at the evidence. Many were dismissed when they stated, like you, that they thought Chauvin was guilty even before the trial. When Floyd's family was awarded the 27 M during the Jury selection, many more were dismissed as they thought that Chauvin must be guilty of murder if the City awarded such a large amount of money.

The City did this deliberately to 'taint' the Trial in their favour but it's done now & the Trial commences next week, one more Juror has to be selected.

Saturn rules laws & Jupiter rules lawyers. Let's hope it's a fair trial but I do believe that the 'mobs' are going to riot, burn & loot no matter what the verdict is. That nasty :saturn:

is going to cause major upheavals & damage. :crying:

MINNEAPOLIS — The judge overseeing the murder trial of Derek Chauvin, a former Minneapolis police officer charged in George Floyd’s death, rejected a defense request to delay or move the proceedings because of pretrial publicity related to the city’s $27 million civil settlement with Floyd’s family.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/19/derek-chauvin-trial/

JUPITERASC said:
Nevertheless

While working for the Minneapolis Police Department
numerous complaints had been filed against Derek Chauvin.
So he definitely wasn’t an exemplary police officer.

Clearly lacked good judgement
Judgement is associated with Jupiter

blackbery · Mar 21, 2021

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I totally agree. Chauvin is compared to monsters because of his :sun:

sign.
Complete nonsense.
No wonder why astrology has such a bad reputation when people use it like this?

What about the great men/women who are :sun:

? I guess JA believes they are all killers too?
Albert Einstein
Frederci Chopin
George F. Handel
George Washington.
Constantine the Great.
Charles V.
Albert Einstein.
Mikhail Gorbachev.
Michelangelo.

..and, a few more like Johnny Cash, Victor Huge, George Harrison.

Not even mentioning the women here, just the 'evil' :sun:

men!

Monsters, killers! Burn them all at the stake! :biggrin:

Kurt Cobain.

ElenaJ said:
Lots of demonising water sun signs here, which really sounds very superficial.
However, when the event took place, shortly afterwards, I seem to remember there was a thread and a natal chart with birth time was posted for him. Anyone recall this? I'm not sure how to even do a search for it on the forum.

JUPITERASC · Mar 21, 2021

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blackbery said:
I totally agree. Chauvin is compared to monsters because of his sign.
Complete nonsense.
No wonder why astrology has such a bad reputation when people use it like this?

Indeed
given the unnecessary Hyperbole on your part :smile:

blackbery said:
What about the great men/women who are ? I guess JA believes they are all killers too?

Albert Einstein

Albert Einstein - a Pisces - did not work directly on the atom bomb.
But Einstein was the father of the bomb in two important ways

1) it was his initiative which started U.S. bomb research
2) it was his equation (E = mc2)

which made the atomic bomb theoretically possible.
The atomic bomb vaporised 130,000 plus CIVILIANS
when detonated over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
on August 6 and 9, 1945, respectively.
The two bombings killed between 129,000 and 226,000 people
most of whom were civilians
and remain the only use of nuclear weapons in armed conflict.

.

JUPITERASC · Mar 21, 2021

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blackbery said:
From what I saw with the Jury selection, you would not qualify
to sit on the bench
as you have already made up your mind that Chauvin is guilty.

????? I'm simply highlighting that Derek Chauvin
has six traditional planets in Pisces
- if that is your idea of thinking that he is automatically guilty
that's ridiculous

and

keep in mind
that since you appear to have decided that Derek Chauvin is not-guilty

before he has even been tried
then obviously you would not qualify to sit on the bench

blackbery said:
The people selected, both black & white, had to ensure the Judge
that they would be open-minded about looking at the evidence.
Many were dismissed when they stated,

like you,

??????????

blackbery said:
that they thought Chauvin was guilty even before the trial.

if stating that Derek Chauvin is interestingly a person
with six of seven traditional planets in Pisces
is in your opinion equivalent to declaring him guilty
that's ridiculous hyperbole

blackbery said:
When Floyd's family was awarded the 27 M during the Jury selection, many more were dismissed as they thought that Chauvin must be guilty of murder if the City awarded such a large amount of money.

The City did this deliberately to 'taint' the Trial in their favour but it's done now & the Trial commences next week, one more Juror has to be selected.

Saturn rules laws & Jupiter rules lawyers. Let's hope it's a fair trial but I do believe that the 'mobs' are going to riot, burn & loot no matter what the verdict is. That nasty is going to cause major upheavals & damage.

MINNEAPOLIS — The judge overseeing the murder trial of Derek Chauvin, a former Minneapolis police officer charged in George Floyd’s death, rejected a defense request to delay or move the proceedings because of pretrial publicity related to the city’s $27 million civil settlement with Floyd’s family.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/19/derek-chauvin-trial/

ElenaJ · Mar 21, 2021

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The atomic bomb vaporised 130,000 plus CIVILIANS
when detonated over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
on August 6 and 9, 1945, respectively.

Respectively bringing the war to an immediate end, avoiding thousands of additional deaths.

ElenaJ · Mar 21, 2021

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I have the impression our messages and answers are getting all criss crossed here!

JUPITERASC · Mar 21, 2021

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ElenaJ said:
JUPITERASC said:

Albert Einstein - a Pisces - did not work directly on the atom bomb.
But Einstein was the father of the bomb in two important ways

1) it was his initiative which started U.S. bomb research
2) it was his equation (E = mc2)

which made the atomic bomb theoretically possible.
The atomic bomb vaporised 130,000 plus CIVILIANS
when detonated over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
on August 6 and 9, 1945, respectively.
The two bombings killed between 129,000 and 226,000 people
most of whom were civilians
and remain the only use of nuclear weapons in armed conflict.

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Click to expand...

Respectively bringing the war to an immediate end,

avoiding thousands of additional deaths.

applying that reasoning
then killing 226.000 INNOCENT CIVILIANS
according to you
is wonderful

- wonder who has the nuclear codes currently
- Stumbling & falling on steps of air force One Joe Biden perhaps

How reassuring :smile:

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ElenaJ · Mar 21, 2021

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JUPITERASC said:
applying that reasoning
then killing 226.000 INNOCENT CIVILIANS
according to you
is wonderful

- wonder who has the nuclear codes currently
- Stumbling & falling on steps of air force One Joe Biden perhaps

How reassuring

.

I didn't say it was wonderful. It was deemed the best solution at the time.
And when the bombing attacks carried out, there was no prior knowledge as to what the results might be, it was all new at the time. It's very easy to judge from what we know now, that it was terrible, but at the moment they were trying to end a world war.
Hindsight is always 20/20, as they say.

JUPITERASC · Mar 21, 2021

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ElenaJ said:
I didn't say it was wonderful. It was deemed the best solution at the time.
And when the bombing attacks carried out,
there was no prior knowledge as to what the results might be,
it was all new at the time.

It wasm't "...the best solution at the time..."
it was an opportunity to test the bomb on a city
inhabited by innocent civilians
instead of at a deserted test site in the desert
there was a need to experiment
to find out the consequences on a real inhabited city
interesting that the bomb was not tested on Europeans
and now
multiple nations have bombs thousands of times more powerul
as well as nuclear missiles
which can easily
return the compliment of 4 and 6 August 1945
but
with hundreds and thousands of times more potential destruction
Truman was aware of the destructive power of the atomic bomb
but went ahead and destroyed in nine seconds
an entire city, then another city days later
their museums
historical and civic records
religious buildings and philosophical artefacts

their culture
and

condemning generations to decade after decade
of birth defects caused by radioactive fallout
that still continues today

not only that
but the radioactivity spread worldwide

obviously when Einstein, a Pisces sun

provided the know how
to construct the bomb
Einstein himself did not drop the bomb
on innocent civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
it is simply an interesting fact he was Pisces sun

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JUPITERASC · Mar 21, 2021

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ElenaJ said:
It's very easy to judge from what we know now,
that it was terrible,
but at the moment they were trying to end a world war.
Hindsight is always 20/20, as they say.

there is no justification for
obliterating an entire cultural heritage
along with the population of two cities
and they could not have done it without the work of Albert Einstein
who quite by chance was Pisces Sun

- interesting that as a consequence of its experience
Japan since the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
has been a staunch upholder of antinuclear sentiments.

Japans postwar Constitution
forbids the establishment of offensive military forces
and in 1967 it adopted the Three Non-Nuclear Principles
ruling out the production, possession, or introduction of nuclear weapons.
The three principles do not have the force of law.
But Japanese officials
–even those who secretly ignore them
–repeatedly express fealty whenever questioned.

by the way

On August 13, 1945
—four days after the bombing of Nagasaki
—two military officials had a phone conversation
about how many more bombs to detonate over Japan and when.
According to the declassified conversation
there was a third bomb set to be dropped on August 19th.
There is little evidence that Truman ever truly regretted his order
to utilize the bomb
use of nuclear weapons in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was illegal
in the light of
the principles and rules of International Humanitarian Law
applicable in armed conflicts
since the bombing of both cities
made civilians the object of attack
using nuclear weapons
that were incapable of distinguishing between civilians and military

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blackbery · Mar 21, 2021

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What does Japan/US have to do with the trial of a cop in MN?

A cop who is innocent until proven guilty.

He was following police protocol when he put his knee on G. Floyd's neck. That was the main method taught in the police training to restrain someone.

We don't know if he intentionally meant to kill him or if it was accidental.

But, according to JA, Chauvin is guilty because he's a Pisces Sun & has some disciplinary strikes in his file.

Thank God we are still a country of Laws & EVIDENCE can be presented on both sides to make the right decision in his guilt or innocence.

Every person deserves their 'day in court'.

Cold Fusion · Mar 21, 2021

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JUPITERASC said:
applying that reasoning
then killing 226.000 INNOCENT CIVILIANS
according to you
is wonderful

- wonder who has the nuclear codes currently
- Stumbling & falling on steps of air force One Joe Biden perhaps

How reassuring

I'd be more worried about someone with bad mental health (Trump) than someone with less than perfect physical health.

JUPITERASC · Mar 21, 2021

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blackbery said:
What does Japan/US have to do with the trial of a cop in MN?

If you read your own comments
notice PISCES is the link
you mentioned Albert Einstein, a PISCES sun
Derek Chauvin has six of the seven traditional planets

in Water signs
that is clearly UNUSUAL

i.e
Sun, Mercury and Venus in Pisces
Mars and Saturn in Cancer
and
the Moon in Scorpio.

blackbery said:
A cop who is innocent until proven guilty.

by a court of law
not by posters on internet forums

blackbery said:
He was following police protocol
when he put his knee on G. Floyd's neck.
That was the main method taught in the police training to restrain someone.

evidence in this video is abnormally clear
as well as consistent with a sad record
of violent policing in this country.
“...Police are trained
that this type of restraint
with the subject in prone position is inherently dangerous...”
the criminal complaint against Chauvin says.
I am glad to know the police provide this training
and I hope that they continue doing so.
They might also consider screening candidates to the force
to confirm
that the thought of administering this type of restraint
for more than eight uninterrupted minutes
is enough to elicit some scruples.

PROSECUTORS STATE THAT
Officer Derek Chauvin
was on George Floyd's neck for about 9 minutes

The time has fluctuated before
but
new filings citing time-stamped police body-camera video
now make it at least nine minutes.

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JUPITERASC · Mar 21, 2021

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blackbery said:
We don't know if he intentionally meant to kill him or if it was accidental.

"....The tactile experience of kneeling into a human neck
is not familiar to most people, and video of Derek Chauvin
then a Minneapolis police officer
and now a civilian charged with murder
kneeling into the neck of George Floyd
is as disturbing as anything most of us have ever seen..."
a veteran watcher of snuff films cannot recall
ever seeing someone killed in this way.
(The Islamic State stab people slowly in the heart,
or smoosh them with tank treads, or burn them alive.)

The only thing that brought me close to this form of killing
is Joshua Oppenheimer’s singular film The Act of Killing
about executioners in Indonesia
with extensive experience

strangling their victims.

HOW DO YOU KNEEL ON A NECK FOR NINE MINUTES?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/george-floyd-kneeling/612409/

To understand what happened to Floyd
simulate the position of his killer.
simulator involved a stopwatch
and
kneeling on a rolled-up yoga mat
on top of which is placed a gelatinous pad
used by medical students to imitate human skin.

At five minutes and 53 seconds
my knee was numb.
It stayed that way for the remaining minutes
and
I don’t see how anyone

could remain in that position
knee driven into
a by-now-inert mass of humanity
unless he was at best
totally indifferent to the person’s survival.

blackbery said:
But, according to JA, Chauvin is guilty because he's a Pisces Sun
& has some disciplinary strikes in his file.

????????? BB is clearly psychic and cherry picking
six of the seven traditional planets
are in Water signs

clearly UNUSUAL
i.e
Sun, Mercury and Venus in Pisces
Mars and Saturn in Cancer
and
the Moon in Scorpio.

blackbery said:
Thank God we are still a country of Laws
& EVIDENCE can be presented
on both sides
to make the right decision in his guilt or innocence.
Every person deserves their '...day in court...'.

Well said

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JUPITERASC · Mar 24, 2021

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We haven't seen all the evidence yet.
May the jury be impartial and not lean one way or the other.
Justice needs to be served.
Jury Selection Day 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfzxhvXTcNI

- Trial for Death of George Floyd
- Questioning PJ

JUPITERASC said:
Nevertheless the Judge seems fair
two jurors dismissed because when questioned
they said that the $27 million dollar settlement
would have influenced their judgement

blackbery · Mar 24, 2021

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The trial hasn't started yet, it's been Jury selection.

The trail begins on March 29th, right after the FM :libra:

We will see the evidence then and the defense at play.

Probably last a couple of months the Judge is claiming...that's why he asked & got a 15th Juror in place in case they are needed....He wants the trial to go as efficiently as possible.

JUPITERASC said:
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We haven't seen all the evidence yet.
May the jury be impartial and not lean one way or the other.
Justice needs to be served.
Jury Selection Day 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfzxhvXTcNI

- Trial for Death of George Floyd
- Questioning PJ

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