My Chart Is Intense? Huh?

Miss Fit said:

Thank you!! I will have to agree to that! LOL. I think we're nice, loyal, and are great friends to have, but just don't cross us or the stinger will come out. And... this is where Rageypoo is correct about my chart being emotionally based. I tend to react emotionally before thinking about things through and sometimes it comes back to bite me on the butt!!

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Haha, that's OK -- everyone needs a self defense mechanism, even if they accidentally use it against themselves sometimes! Yesterday my Scorpio dad became convinced that I had broken his computer (He's not good with computers at ALL) and was prepared to go angry Scorp on me (YOU broke MY possession), but this Cap was having none of it. And since I spent the rest of the night until midnight helping him fill out some lengthy online forms, the Scorpio need for loyalty was appeased and the I fulfilled that stereotypical need to meet the Capricorn Overtime Quota. I really do adore water signs, even when they go nuts on me. ^_^

Rageypoo said:

When it comes to scorpio, I'm in it for the sex

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LOL, Love it.

I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment…..

Within the mainstream here on AW of placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple
Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwGtMWl4z4

your chart ruler is a singleton.... ie: only planet in earth element or planets in earth house to help compensate. so what you like at changing plugs, gardening and practical matters??

Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.”
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression.
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm

Lack of elements
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm
http://www.nanceestar.com/elements.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=319747&posted=1#post319747

then sun,venus and jupiter would all be 8th house...along with uranus already there. I'm not surprised you work in finance as 8th house is *other people's money* how apt

The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott
http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm
http://mysticmedusa.com/2009/03/the-eerie-8th-house/
http://mystarworld.com/content/planets_in_8th_house.asp

chart ruler Aries is very strong and exalted in capricorn and most of your statements, like 'rushing in' act first think later are so typcial

planets conj MC
http://rugdeeaustralia.tripod.com/id18.html
http://www.skyviewzone.com/articles/asrticle3sc.htm

mars is afflicted by wide orb conjunction with neptune and this may well 'sap your energies' and cause confusions. I hope you used the links I posted earlier?

mars opp domicile moon suggests rather bossy mother. I also agree with sandstone, that all your planets on western side of your chart (I am the same) suggests no matter how pro active, how many fresh starts, iniatatives you make, you may still always have to wait for *others* to come up with the goods, so to speak..

Hemispheres and quadrants
http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/Step_2_Self_and_other_focus.htm#continue
http://www.astrotheme.com/planets-distribution.php
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/hemispheres_quadrants1.shtml
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/hemisphereemphasis.html

The Western Hemisphere (right hand side)
It is the world of other people and of relationships. The native needs fellow creatures in order to reach harmony. He pays much attention, sometimes too much, to other people's views. A prominent Western hemisphere inclines towards extraversion and sociability.

Why is or should be of major concern here is that Transiting Pluto is NOW conjunct your MC providing TOB is correct of course. When pluto hit my MC, my father died, my marriage broke, I went back to work after 15years of being at home.. you can get a FREE six month transit report by Robert Hand, on astro.com under 'short report'

transit thread.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43287

astrologer50 said:

your chart ruler is a singleton.... ie: only planet in earth element or planets in earth house to help compensate. so what you like at changing plugs, gardening and practical matters??

Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.”

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Since I love asking stupid questions and this isn't something I know enough about to have seen it otherwise... So are you saying Mars is the chart ruler because of Aries rising, and Mars in Capricorn is the only earth placement, making it a Singleton? It seems like the Moon in Cancer would also kinda be a singleton because it's all alone on one half of the chart, but I guess it doesn't get to be co-ruler or anything.

saturnsayshi said:

Since I love asking stupid questions and this isn't something I know enough about to have seen it otherwise... So are you saying Mars is the chart ruler because of Aries rising, and Mars in Capricorn is the only earth placement, making it a Singleton? It seems like the Moon in Cancer would also kinda be a singleton because it's all alone on one half of the chart, but I guess it doesn't get to be co-ruler or anything.

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Moon wouldn't be "singleton" because there's more than 1 planet in a water element, and yes the chart ruler's "ruler" is mars, so there's importance on the planet.

good catch though about moon being the only one in the southern hemisphere (unless you count chiron, which no one ever does) but I think because it's conj IC that doesn't make it singleton (I'm not well versed on the subject, I'll need to investigate) and I believe the same goes for Mars, because it's in capricorn and the MC is part of the house type shared with IC (so there's 2 cardinal planets, mars and moon), so then the "singleton" status doesn't apply...then again I'm not sure the importance of the IC/MC are regarding singletons.

Moon should still funnel quite a bit of energy, as it is the only planet there in that quadrant, and it also squares the AC

I kind of breezed through the responses but I wanted to point out a couple things, Uranus in the 8th is unaspected by any major planets. Secondly, Moon opposite Mars is at 9 degrees orb, which I would consider too wide to be active. That mean but for inconjuncts, there are no hard aspects in this chart. I would not consider the Sun, Venus, Jupiter hard aspects being conjunct because they are benefic. Even the Mars to Neptune conjunction is over 8 degrees making it weak in of of itself, it's also further weakend because Mars is separating and also in a different sign from Neptune.

Rageypoo said:

Moon wouldn't be "singleton" because there's more than 1 planet in a water element, and yes the chart ruler's "ruler" is mars, so there's importance on the planet.

good catch though about moon being the only one in the southern hemisphere (unless you count chiron, which no one ever does) but I think because it's conj IC that doesn't make it singleton (I'm not well versed on the subject, I'll need to investigate) and I believe the same goes for Mars, because it's in capricorn and the MC is part of the house type shared with IC (so there's 2 cardinal planets, mars and moon), so then the "singleton" status doesn't apply...then again I'm not sure the importance of the IC/MC are regarding singletons.

Moon should still funnel quite a bit of energy, as it is the only planet there in that quadrant, and it also squares the AC

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LOL, yeah... I even knew one lady who refused to teach anything about Chiron in her classes and would say, "The Wounded Healer needs to heal himself and get over it already!"

Anywho, thanks for humoring me and my [frequent and often strange litany of] neverending questions, Rageypoo! This gives me more to read up on too.

Hi..

Let me start off by saying, everything I say is just to give input. There is no bias or judgement. Astrology is a Circle, Everyone has their own, but in the end, a circle has no edges curves or points of focus. We are all equal.


Without getting into anything to specific, you are intense in the sense you always have to speak your mind. Being the sensitive person you are(specially with men), you may be quick to jump to the gun, and be ready to shoot with a fiery passion, that can be mis-understood. In a rising sense, you have everything very close to its natural placement, this is good in the sense, that elementally, you are congruent with the self.

With so many prominent planets in Scorpio(One of the signs with a bit of a bad view attached), People tend to mid-understand you. Except within the home, the home was a safe haven. But the parental's might of had issues among-st each other.

Your chart is actually a pretty good chart. Intensity anybody or yourself might feel, is a lack of understanding of you as an individual. You have a very powerful chart(as we all do), but you have gotten lucky with having a chart that set's a path, that you are most likely going to take. Now this can be very good, or very bad. Sometimes with things being so easy, we fail to learn the lesson's in life, and the path being so easy, we just make things harder for ourselves.

The Scorpio controls the rebirth, and the realm of the mind, no one is willing to enter.

I am going to stop there. I can go forever.

Vista said:

I kind of breezed through the responses but I wanted to point out a couple things, Uranus in the 8th is unaspected by any major planets. Secondly, Moon opposite Mars is at 9 degrees orb, which I would consider too wide to be active. That mean but for inconjuncts, there are no hard aspects in this chart. I would not consider the Sun, Venus, Jupiter hard aspects being conjunct because they are benefic. Even the Mars to Neptune conjunction is over 8 degrees making it weak in of of itself, it's also further weakend because Mars is separating and also in a different sign from Neptune.

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Conjunctions are considered hard aspects, with the tightest being a 0 degree conjunction from venus to sun, but I agree there's nothing too "hard" in this chart, going back again to why I said this is an easy chart (and possibly lazy!)

Moon also makes a hard aspect to AC/DC

Despite the easy natal chart, transits can still be powerful, the last thing she needs is a planet progression to square that 7th/8th house (like mars will soon, to saturn and pluto!) and after transiting pluto conj all those planets, it's gonna square in 2019

The good news: Transiting neptune and chiron are gonna trine the living heck out of you = )