Struggling with addiction

clip11

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For years I've been trying to break an addiction to online pornography with no success. And it's ruining my real life sexual relationships, in fact, severely limiting them. Is it anything in my chart on how I should go about breaking this bad habit?

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waybread

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Clip, have you been in therapy? I can see some of the problem, with Mars-Venus-Jupiter, and moon-Uranus, but really, I think a professional psychologist or counselor would be the person to consult re: solutions.
 

diana795

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I am reading a medical astrology book recommended by Frisiangal.
About that stellium you have in the fourth house - it relates to early parental conditioning which can cause neurosis due to repressed anger. The author pf the book, Eileen Nauman, suggests addressing that heavy burden through self examination and getting counselling.

I see you have Uranus very close to IC and conj Moon. This is usually a signature mark for anxiety. Can you count many times have you moved in your life? Uranus in 4th must be understood first. Saturn is there close by, is it a sibling that may have involved?


About that Mars con Jupiter in Pisces, I suspect that Jupiter is compulsively working on Mars to act like that. Mars in Pisces has difficulties with maintaining boundaries. It can't shut the door closed when it needs to, and is unwillingly absorbing tension or any other unwanted or toxic influence. I think you need to ground yourself through meditation and put effort in building boundaries. Try wearing (and believing in) protective stones. Try visualizing protective boundaries.
Hope it helps.
 
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diana795

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I think I see it now. Use your Mercury, read. In your case, Mercury is conj Neptune. Liz Greene has an excellent description of Mercury-Neptune in her Neptune book. Through the fog, because you have Chiron in Gemini, you can heal yourself by having inspiration. Read and think, the key to exit unravel this is using your mind power. Not going to happen in one day, but tryhttps://www.headspace.com/meditation/anxiety
 

diana795

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there's a guy in Vancouver who wrote an exceptional book, he says to deal with addiction you have to deal with the pain first. You could read his books, his name is Gabor Mate.
Astrologically, your pain seems to have funnelled down through the 4th house of ancestors, the family tree and parents, family. I'd start dealing with that first.
 

clip11

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there's a guy in Vancouver who wrote an exceptional book, he says to deal with addiction you have to deal with the pain first. You could read his books, his name is Gabor Mate.
Astrologically, your pain seems to have funnelled down through the 4th house of ancestors, the family tree and parents, family. I'd start dealing with that first.
i know i have a 4th house stellium but what issues from ancestors could it possibly be?
 

JUPITERASC

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For years I've been trying to break an addiction to online pornography with no success.
And it's ruining my real life sexual relationships, in fact, severely limiting them.
Is it anything in my chart
on how I should go about breaking this bad habit?
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Mindful meditation may be helpful
there are often FREE classes on offer locally :smile:
 

JUPITERASC

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i know i have a 4th house stellium but what issues from ancestors could it possibly be?
blaming the ancestors is not much use
if you genuinely seek to understand your behaviors
then some form of Mindfulness practice
is recommended

otherwise you are simply finding reasons to continue based on natal chart :smile:
 

clip11

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Clip, have you been in therapy? I can see some of the problem, with Mars-Venus-Jupiter, and moon-Uranus, but really, I think a professional psychologist or counselor would be the person to consult re: solutions.

Yes I'm in therapy now.
 

Witchyone

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It's difficult to say what might show this in your chart because this is a fairly new type of addiction that has cropped up with the internet. I think to see where the addiction shows in the chart, you need to have a rough idea of what feelings, thoughts, and impulses are driving the addiction and how the addiction impacts your sexual relationships.

Your planets work in tandem more than most charts I've seen. Mars conjunct Jupiter ends up connecting everything since each one is square several planets. Do you have an addictive personality when it comes to other things or only ****? If it's only ****, that might be because of Scorpio Pluto and Venus making contacts to that Mars/Jupiter conjunction, which then goes on to pull everything else into the mix.

I hear this is a common problem among young male adults. Have you had any luck talking to other guys about it online?
 

clip11

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It's difficult to say what might show this in your chart because this is a fairly new type of addiction that has cropped up with the internet. I think to see where the addiction shows in the chart, you need to have a rough idea of what feelings, thoughts, and impulses are driving the addiction and how the addiction impacts your sexual relationships.

Your planets work in tandem more than most charts I've seen. Mars conjunct Jupiter ends up connecting everything since each one is square several planets. Do you have an addictive personality when it comes to other things or only ****? If it's only ****, that might be because of Scorpio Pluto and Venus making contacts to that Mars/Jupiter conjunction, which then goes on to pull everything else into the mix.

I hear this is a common problem among young male adults. Have you had any luck talking to other guys about it online?
Well it's the only addiction I have. The biggest downfall of this addiction is that it keeps me from having relations with real women because it makes it so that you can't perform
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317117.php

So it just ends up isolating me from the opposite sex.
 

clip11

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I am reading a medical astrology book recommended by Frisiangal.
About that stellium you have in the fourth house - it relates to early parental conditioning which can cause neurosis due to repressed anger. The author pf the book, Eileen Nauman, suggests addressing that heavy burden through self examination and getting counselling.

I see you have Uranus very close to IC and conj Moon. This is usually a signature mark for anxiety. Can you count many times have you moved in your life? Uranus in 4th must be understood first. Saturn is there close by, is it a sibling that may have involved?


About that Mars con Jupiter in Pisces, I suspect that Jupiter is compulsively working on Mars to act like that. Mars in Pisces has difficulties with maintaining boundaries. It can't shut the door closed when it needs to, and is unwillingly absorbing tension or any other unwanted or toxic influence. I think you need to ground yourself through meditation and put effort in building boundaries. Try wearing (and believing in) protective stones. Try visualizing protective boundaries.
Hope it helps.

Well I only lived in one house growing up so growing up I didn't move at all.
 
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