Zodiac cycles of time

CapAquaPis

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We all know the year is divided into 12 signs or solar months from Aries to Pisces, but other zodiac cycles exist, and the procession of signs are actually backwards or in reverse.

There are 4 zodiac cycles of time: 25,920 years (an epoch), 1,200 (each sign for a century), 2,160 years (a whole age), 1,000 years (millennial), 100 years (century) and 10 years (a decade). Divide them by 12, you find each sector has a ruling sign, they start with Pisces and end in Aries.

We're in the epoch of Capricorn (or Cancer) started in 1 AD - the birth of the son of God in Christianity: Jesus Christ, and his mother the Virgin Mary. We're entering the age of Aquarius starting in 2,160 AD (or already started in 2000). This is the Capricornian millennia...either started in 2001 or 2012 (Dec 21-31?) and the Pisces part of the 21st century as well currently in Gemini for 2017-18.

And 1,200 years (each century under a sign starting at 1 AD) - starts with Pisces and ends in Aries. The 20th century was under Leo, and the 21st we're now in is under Cancer.

Two disputed years of when the world entered a new age: July 20, 1969 and Jan 1, 1990 or 91. The Moon ruled by Cancer symbolized a new age - the first of 6 manned lunar landings in 1969, or the Dec 31, 1990-Jan 1, 1991 full moon (as well on Jan 1-2, 1980 and Dec 30-31, 2001) in Cancer.

And the upcoming 2020s - between 2020 and 2024, is thought to usher in a new age - the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction in 2021 and Pluto in Aquarius in 2024 - will be in Capricorn in the early part of 2020s. Saturn is the ruler of Capricorn and in traditional, Aquarius. However, Pluto as a newer discovered "dwarf" planet is not used or recognized in traditional astrology. And Jupiter is traditional ruler of Pisces.
 
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CapAquaPis

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Going by the 2000 year cycle (since 1833-34), 2017 is under the sign of Pisces - of spiritual awakening, new age religious movements and social Liberalism, but with the 2160 year cycle (since 1980-81), this year is under the sign of Aries - of international competition, wider political powers and increased fiscal conservatism. The Pisces part as a water sign is of female empowerment and a smaller world by technological advancements in the 20th century (in addition to the dawning of the Aquarian age), but the fire sign Aries part is global warming and climate change expected to hit the world in this new millennia (along with the Cancer epoch for the next 26,000 years - 2,160 times 12 equals 25,920).
 

CapAquaPis

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In a single year, the procession of zodiacs goes from Aries to Pisces, while in the procession of ages (25,920 years) goes from Pisces to Aries. It's possible for 10, 100, 1000, 1200, 2000 and 2160 year cycles to go both ways. For example, the last 83 years of a 1000 year cycle in the last millennia/20th century can either be Pisces or Aries, as well the first 83 years of this cycle in the new millennia/21st century (the world wars-the Great War or WW1, WW2, the cold war and war on terror). And the last 8.3 years of the 20th century (The Great economic boom) from 1991/92-2000/01 is different from 2000/01-2008/09 (the Great Recession).
 

muchacho

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We all know the year is divided into 12 signs or solar months from Aries to Pisces, but other zodiac cycles exist, and the procession of signs are actually backwards or in reverse.

There are 4 zodiac cycles of time: 25,920 years (an epoch), 1,200 (each sign for a century), 2,160 years (a whole age), 1,000 years (millennial), 100 years (century) and 10 years (a decade). Divide them by 12, you find each sector has a ruling sign, they start with Pisces and end in Aries.

We're in the epoch of Capricorn (or Cancer) started in 1 AD - the birth of the son of God in Christianity: Jesus Christ, and his mother the Virgin Mary. We're entering the age of Aquarius starting in 2,160 AD (or already started in 2000). This is the Capricornian millennia...either started in 2001 or 2012 (Dec 21-31?) and the Pisces part of the 21st century as well currently in Gemini for 2017-18.

And 1,200 years (each century under a sign starting at 1 AD) - starts with Pisces and ends in Aries. The 20th century was under Leo, and the 21st we're now in is under Cancer.

Two disputed years of when the world entered a new age: July 20, 1969 and Jan 1, 1990 or 91. The Moon ruled by Cancer symbolized a new age - the first of 6 manned lunar landings in 1969, or the Dec 31, 1990-Jan 1, 1991 full moon (as well on Jan 1-2, 1980 and Dec 30-31, 2001) in Cancer.

And the upcoming 2020s - between 2020 and 2024, is thought to usher in a new age - the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction in 2021 and Pluto in Aquarius in 2024 - will be in Capricorn in the early part of 2020s. Saturn is the ruler of Capricorn and in traditional, Aquarius. However, Pluto as a newer discovered "dwarf" planet is not used or recognized in traditional astrology. And Jupiter is traditional ruler of Pisces.
According to Yukteswar the age of Pisces/Virgo started 499 AD and the age of Aquarius/Leo will start 2499 AD.
 

CapAquaPis

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According to Yukteswar the age of Pisces/Virgo started 499 AD and the age of Aquarius/Leo will start 2499 AD.

Every 3000 years? 1999-2249AD is under Taurus - the 2nd to last sign in the 3000 year cyclical period. What does a combination of Pisces/Virgo and Taurus (or Aquarius) do? A combination of Pisces/Virgo and Gemini (or Capricorn) the previous 250 years (1749-1999) was of social reform, scientific progress and emphasis on tolerance of different political or religious philosophy and thought.
 

muchacho

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Every 3000 years? 1999-2249AD is under Taurus - the 2nd to last sign in the 3000 year cyclical period. What does a combination of Pisces/Virgo and Taurus (or Aquarius) do? A combination of Pisces/Virgo and Gemini (or Capricorn) the previous 250 years (1749-1999) was of social reform, scientific progress and emphasis on tolerance of different political or religious philosophy and thought.

Yukteswar doesn't look at it in terms of signs, but ages (yugas). We are currently in the early stages of Dwapara Yuga (aka Bronze Age). Here's a quote from the introduction of his book The Holy Science on what to expect:

Kali Yuga [...] the human intellect cannot comprehend anything beyond the gross material of his every-changing creation, the external world [...]
Dwapara Yuga [...] the human intellect can then comprehend the fine matters or electricities and their attributes which are the creating principles of the external world [...]
Treta Yuga [...] the human intellect becomes able to comprehend the divine magnetism, the source of all electrical forces on which the creation depends for its existence [...]
Satya Yuga [...] the human intellect can comprehend all, even God the Spirit beyond this visible world...
According to Yukteswar, our Sun is part of a binary star system where two stars orbit around each other. And this system again is orbiting around another Grand Center called Vishnunabhi. The absolute high point in terms of collective human development (middle of Satya Yuga) was in 11,501 BC when the autumnal equinox was at 0 degrees Aries with earth nearest the Grand Center. The absolute low point (middle of Kali Yuga) was in 499 AD when the autumnal equinox was at 0 degrees Virgo. We entered Dwapara Yuga in 1599 AD.

Full cycle = 24,000 years
Kali Yuga = 1/20th upward + 1/20 downward = 2,400 years
Dwapara Yuga = 2/20th upward + 2/20 downward = 4,800 years
Treta Yuga = 3/20th upward + 3/20th downward = 7,200 years
Satya Yuga = 4/20th upward + 4/20th downward = 9,600 years


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CapAquaPis

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Here's a video on what's called either the great year or the platonic cyclical year - the 25-26,000 year long precession of the astrological zodiac. According to the video, a zodiacal age lasts 2,083.333 years - between the numbers 2,000 and 2,160. And we're in the very end of the last great year...or the platonic cycle, around 2013 AD (right near the "doomsday" Dec 21, 2012).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXyt_Vkj9E
 

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CapAquaPis

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Another thing: some astrologers believe the recent platonic cyclical year began between 4 BC and 4 AD with the birth of the Christian savior Jesus Christ and his symbol: the fish, represented the age of Pisces. Every age has an opposite sign: the Virgin - the sign of Virgo, because of Jesus' mother the Virgin Mary.

This thumbnail image reminds me of Virgo - the virgin, maiden or mother (2-b).
 

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CapAquaPis

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...And each platonic cyclical year (25-26,000 years) has a sign of its own, we're in the Cancerian or Capricornian epoch - again, Cancer is the maternal sign of the Virgin Mary...and her son, the son of God in Christianity Jesus Christ born on Capricorn (Christmas day being Dec. 25th). Either it began on 4 BC - 4 AD, or the first 12 years of this century/millennia/Age of Aquarius (2000-2012 AD). In US history, the most important dates and years were 1776 (July 4) under a Cancer sun/Capricorn-Aquarius moon: our nation's independence declaration, the Civil War (1861-65) but the Union defeated the secessionist Confederacy, WW2 involvement (1941-45) as we defeated the Axis forces (Nazi Germany and Imperialist Japan), and 2001 (Sep. 11) - the terror attacks on the World Trade Center, New York City and the Pentagon, Washington DC (actually in Virginia), under a Virgo sun/Gemini-Cancer moon. Saturn was in Virgo, 1861-64 and in Taurus, 1942-45, both are earth signs like Capricorn, sign ruler of Saturn. But in the peak of the War on Terror (2003-07), Saturn was in the opposite Cancer.
 

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david starling

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As you know, I subscribe to an Age method myself. I have no problem with proposals for other methods. What I object to, is separating these extremely long-term cycles from normal Chart placements. Since each Chart is different, the EFFECT of long-term cycle influence will impact each Chart in its own way. Presumably, it's possible to represent the Yuga cycle in a current Chart, and determine what it means in relation to the all the other placements. The Yugas APPEAR to be about the influence of a second Sun. In which case, we should be able to locate the second Sun's Transits in the Chart.
What I'm saying is, bring it into the context of the Chart first. THEN, for example, what Sign does it rule, and is it a Benefic or a Malefic? In what Sign is it Exalted, and in what Sign is it in Detriment? Does sect matter? Etc. Not everyone will be affected the same way, given Chart differences, so the generalized description of an Age, or a Yuga will be its aggregate effect on the Earth's population as a whole. Highly significant, because of the EXTREMELY slow moving Transit involved.
 
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david starling

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Muchacho, are the Yugas in accordance with actual Astronomical positions in the Chart, or based on historical events? I've seen several different versions of when the Kali Yuga starts and ends. Interesting to me that your version matches up so well with the system I'm using for the Tropical Ages. Also, can the Yuga Transits be used in both Tropical and Sidereal Charts (different Signs, of course). The standard, conventional method for tracking Earth's Ages is Sidereal-only, because the Age Indicator used is the First Point of Spring, which is forever attached to the first point of Tropical Aries.
 

david starling

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Just to clear, I'm maintaining that the Age, Epoch, or Yuga Influence by ITSELF doesn't cause particular beliefs actions, events, or abilities. It's the way it influences each Chart, and acts in concert with the other Chart Influences (rulers and Aspects). And, the aggregate effect on ALL Charts is what determines the outcome.
 

muchacho

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Muchacho, are the Yugas in accordance with actual Astronomical positions in the Chart, or based on historical events? I've seen several different versions of when the Kali Yuga starts and ends. Interesting to me that your version matches up so well with the system I'm using for the Tropical Ages. Also, can the Yuga Transits be used in both Tropical and Sidereal Charts (different Signs, of course). The standard, conventional method for tracking Earth's Ages is Sidereal-only, because the Age Indicator used is the First Point of Spring, which is forever attached to the first point of Tropical Aries.
Yes, it matches historical events quite well. Just read Yukteswar's book The Holy Science:
http://yoganandaharmony.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Holy-Science-1920-edition.pdf
 

david starling

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Muchacho, wouldn't the point of ayanamsa be a logical choice for an Age Indicator for Vedic-astrology? That's really what's being used by nearly everyone who's opining about the Age of Aquarius. The Yugas, while a very impressive Long-term Cycle, doesn't involve the Zodiac.
 
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david starling

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I rather like the idea that the Astrological Ages of Earth were themselves influenced by the Second Sun's position in Space. Gets the Fall-seasonal, Tropical Age-signs off the hook, since their Ages occurred during the Kali Yuga.
 

muchacho

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Muchacho, wouldn't the point of ayanamsa be a logical choice for an Age Indicator for Vedic-astrology? That's really what's being used by nearly everyone who's opining about the Age of Aquarius. The Yugas, while a very impressive Long-term Cycle, doesn't involve the Zodiac.
Gil Brand suggests using the vernal point as a collective ASC.
 

david starling

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I hadn't thought of the Age Indicator as an actual collective Ascendant or a way to construct a collective House system, but I am using it as an equivalent to the Ascendant in terms of how it "enhances" the Chart, making the Sign it's in the Environmental-sign. We live an an Age Environment, which affects everything else. For example, a Natal-chart configuration that functions extremely easily in one Age-environment might function with great difficulty in another, and vice versa. So, using Whole-sign, in the Tropical-chart, that makes Capricorn the First Collective House-sign since about 400 A.D., with Aquarius to become "CH1" about 2150 (a 1750 year cycle using the Point of Perihelion). Just noticed how using "CH" to mean "Collective House" relates it to the word "channel", as in television-channel. So changing Ages is like changing Channels, with each Age-sign being the "Sign-program" for the entire Age. Earth as the Producer, and the Age-sign ruler as the Director. "All the World's a Stage...." :cool:
 
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CapAquaPis

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The great platonic year is thought to begin in the Age of Leo (10,415 BC) but I'm certain it is the Age of Virgo (12,498 BC), peaks in 2000 AD when the age of Aquarius began (actually in 2083 AD), and this cycle will end in 12,500 AD- 14,584 AD-16,667 AD (second ages of Virgo and Leo). The great platonic year has lowest ebb of energy in Age of Taurus and highest level in Age of scorpio.
 
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