Mars in the 9th house

red

Well-known member
How do you think you experience it?

How do you view sex? Is it something very sacred for you?

Do you have a thirst of knowledge? do you want to explore spirituality,religious differences?

I am very curious to know how other people with mars in the 9th house experience it.
 

Blue Lioness

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I have Mars in Aries in the 9th house. I know studying is one of the things I love the most, because I'm very curious. During the last few years I noticed this curiosity regarding religion and spirituality. I can't spent one day without looking for something new to learn.
Before knowing all these things on Astrology, I decided that every travel I would
give priority to would be related to spirituality, finding myself, being in contact with the greatness of life. It made quite a sense when I read about my Mars in the 9th house.
I actually think this is a beautiful placement.
 

red

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Thank you BlueLioness for sharing your experience!

I relate to what you said a lot. I have a 9th house Virgo Mars. I have a thirst for knowledge too, I love searching on different cultures, and mythology. You are right it is a beautiful placement :)

what aspects do you mars make?
 

Blue Lioness

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Well, my Mars is the focal planet of [maybe] 4 t-squares, formed by Moon/Venus/ASC/Chiron in Cancer opposite Neptune in Capricorn. Plus Mars trine Sun in Leo and quincunx Pluto in Scorpio. :)

What about yours?
 
Red:

How do you think you experience it?

What is the 9th, ...it's MORALITY, Travel, Higher Education, Religion, Higher Mind, etc.

So with mars posited or ruling, whom the Germanic astrologers that inspired Heindel, call Lucifer, the Hindus call him the Devil:devil::devil::devil::devil:

We have aggression, selfishness, the :mars::aries:BIG BABY SYNDRONE:scorpio:, the Radical preaching on the soapbox, one with their own views whom is typically at odds with society or the laws of said culture.:devil:

Red:

How do you view sex?

Typically sex is scorpio, the 8th, and 5H, but yes Mars lord of the morality house could explain some human behaviors as 1/6 of humanity have in principle mars as lord of the 9th.

red:

Is it something very sacred for you?

Most charts I've seen with mars ruled 9H, the natives have little sacredness in this respect if mars is lord of this house. In fact a beautiful woman I dated long ago with :mars::conjunct::neptune::libra: , mars lord of the 9th wanted coitus the first date, but my morality said no on any date as it's reserved for the bridal chambers, despite she was more attractive and alluring than this image:

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No I didn't yield to her despite all my attraction to her, but her Mars over-runneth, she being a sco sun seemed to be soooo pre-occupied by sexuality that while she was engaged she without me prompting this sent me a picture of her topless. Which I reprimanded her, "That is a fine thing for an intended to do when engaged"

Sure Forum, I was attracted to her when we met, but her mars, immorality and extreme jealousy, scared this suitor off long ago.:sad::cool:

Because of something that happened in her past, tradgic, I have been her friend of sorts, yet that Mars influence I'm certain gave her the 'Scarlet O'Hara syndrome' in that even after marrying another she couldn't get it out of her head that we were Not to be together!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCWsCtKZ2B0

Anton's horoscope shows by it's hard aspects to Mars just how mars can truly be a devil!

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I think Anton expresses the hard places Mars can go if lord of the 9th!:devil:

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red

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Well, my Mars is the focal planet of [maybe] 4 t-squares, formed by Moon/Venus/ASC/Chiron in Cancer opposite Neptune in Capricorn. Plus Mars trine Sun in Leo and quincunx Pluto in Scorpio. :)

What about yours?

ahhh, sounds intense..

I have a few semi-sextile aspects to other personal planets. Mars semi-sextile mercury,venus,and pluto, sextile NN.
 

red

Well-known member
Hi Clinton,

Well I haven't checked that many charts with Mars in the 9th house, I only know my chart and the way I view sex.For me sex is sacred. Actually I can have a satisfying relationship with a guy that I love without needing to have sex with him. I apologize I didn't provide details of my natal chart in my opening post. I have an 8th house Mars that is located in the 9th house Virgo. I do not relate to the descriptions of a 8th house Mars at all. Probably because Mars is in Virgo. I am very picky when it comes to a partner. The habits of the person is scrutinized and anything as trivial as his choice of shoe wear can put me off.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Hi Clinton,

Well I haven't checked that many charts with Mars in the 9th house, I only know my chart and the way I view sex.For me sex is sacred. Actually I can have a satisfying relationship with a guy that I love without needing to have sex with him. I apologize I didn't provide details of my natal chart in my opening post. I have an 8th house Mars that is located in the 9th house Virgo. I do not relate to the descriptions of a 8th house Mars at all. Probably because Mars is in Virgo. I am very picky when it comes to a partner. The habits of the person is scrutinized and anything as trivial as his choice of shoe wear can put me off.
Exactly - the Sign is a crucial factor
AND
the house location of the dispositor of the Sign :smile:

Those who imply that everyone with mars in 9th is somehow the same
are ignoring the fact that there are 12 Signs
and therefore Mars may be in any one of twelve Signs.
Furthermore, the dispositor of Mars Sign may be in any one of the twelve Signs
AND
located in any one of the 12 houses.
Natal chart ASPECTS OF MARS differ as well
 

poyi

Premium Member
Hi Clinton,

Well I haven't checked that many charts with Mars in the 9th house, I only know my chart and the way I view sex.For me sex is sacred. Actually I can have a satisfying relationship with a guy that I love without needing to have sex with him. I apologize I didn't provide details of my natal chart in my opening post. I have an 8th house Mars that is located in the 9th house Virgo. I do not relate to the descriptions of a 8th house Mars at all. Probably because Mars is in Virgo. I am very picky when it comes to a partner. The habits of the person is scrutinized and anything as trivial as his choice of shoe wear can put me off.

Virgo is a not fertile sign not really needed much sex but dedicated to provide services. Virgo was once in many cultures believed to be related to the sacred prostitute. Strangely enough both Virgin Mary and Mary the prostitute are linked to Virgo. At large, sex is holy in Virgo sign. You can read further why I used Virgin Mary and Mary the prostitute to talk about Virgo.

http://www.nightlightastrology.com/1/post/2012/08/virgo-the-virgin-the-law-that-lives-within.html
 
Poyi stated"

The following I(myself not astro sister poyi) believed ignorantly for decades as truly how many Bible believing Christians truly study the 66 canonized books enough and still can't see the pro astrology connections?

Virgo is a not fertile sign not really needed much sex but dedicated to provide services. Virgo was once in many cultures believed to be related to the sacred prostitute. Strangely enough both Virgin Mary and Mary the prostitute are linked to Virgo. At large, sex is holy in Virgo sign. You can read further why I used Virgin Mary and Mary the prostitute to talk about Virgo.

No where in the 66 canonized books of the Bible was Mary ever referred to or is there any non RC Catholic early documents that place Mary as a Harlot or Prostitute, and there are differences between the two definitions.:rightful:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene

The "composite Magdalene" of the Middle Ages[edit]

It is almost universally agreed today that characterizations of her by the Western Church as a repentant prostitute or loose woman are unfounded,[3][4][9] arising from conflating or merging her identity with the unnamed sinner (commonly thought to have been a prostitute) who anoints Jesus's feet in Luke 7:36-50.[3] Luke describes her as a sinner, but in the account by John at [Jn 12:1-8] she is identified as the virtuous female disciple Mary of Bethany, who his earlier reference in John 11:1-2 had established as the sister of Martha and Lazarus. The figures of Mary Magdalene, the anointing sinner of Luke, and Mary of Bethany were long regarded as the same person. Though Mary Magdalene is named in each of the four gospels in the New Testament, none of the clear references to her indicate that she was a prostitute or notable for a sinful way of life,[4][9] nor link her with Mary of Bethany. Modern scholarship has restored the understanding of Mary of Magdala as an important early Christian leader.[15][16]

http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/was-mary-magdalene-wife-of-jesus-was-mary-magdalene-a-prostitute/

Only in the Gospel according to Luke is there even the slightest implication that she might have had a past life that could raise eyebrows and the question: Was Mary Magdalene a prostitute? Luke 8 names her among other female followers and financial supporters and says that she had been released from the power of seven demons.
Theologians in later centuries consciously tried to downplay her role as an influential follower of Jesus. She became identified with the “sinful woman” in Luke 7 whom Jesus forgives as she anoints his feet, as well as the woman “taken in adultery” whom Jesus saved from stoning. In the sixth century Pope Gregory preached of her being a model penitent.
Only the Western church has said that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. The Eastern church has always honored her as an apostle, noting her as the “apostle to the apostles,” based on the account of the Gospel of John which has Jesus calling her by name and telling her to give the news of his resurrection to the other disciples.

http://exegetethis.blogspot.com/2010/07/mary-magdalene-was-not-prostitute.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/history/marymagdalene.shtml

http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/CU/ac0506.asp

http://www.examiner.com/article/was-mary-magdalene-ever-a-prostitute

If Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute, nor were her sins identified as 'sins of the flesh,' why do so many people view Mary Magdalene as the sexy, 'fallen woman?'
It began as a shameful lie, invented by Pope Gregory I in 597 C.E., in which he combined three separate women from the New Testament into one. He combined Mary Magdalene with Mary of Bethany and a woman who is not named but is referred to as a 'sinner.'

JupiterAsc says:

Exactly - the Sign is a crucial factor
AND
the house location of the dispositor of the Sign :smile:

Those who imply that everyone with mars in 9th is somehow the same
are ignoring the fact that there are 12 Signs
and therefore Mars may be in any one of twelve Signs.
Furthermore, the dispositor of Mars Sign may be in any one of the twelve Signs
AND
located in any one of the 12 houses.
Natal chart ASPECTS OF MARS differ as well

AMEN, to judge only Mars as the only indicator and NOT the rest of the horoscope that supports or contradicts the testimonies is a fatal flaw that weakens our art!

IE. Decades ago an astrologer was viewing my horoscope and thought for sure there had been some sesual or overly zealous sexual activity while a certain planet conjuncted my mars. Noe of what she said took place but rather I as a young man had three jobs one summer simultaneously; I had an energized 10th house rather that playing the 'Dan Juan scenario'. She had totally omitted looking at my 9th house lord and planets there: just like a few here by there own prejudices(we all have them) may view another similarly by the images they present such as my presented photos of which zarathu calls my 'pinup girls'.

IE. #2 Hollyweird presents images in their movies and television shows that usually do not truly symbolize the nature or characters that the stars happen to be employed playing a role; but we somehow place or accept their iconic myths regardless of the lies Hollyweird has painted and imprinted upon our consciousness.

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Need I explain any more on this?
 
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red

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I am not talking about Mars being the Lord of the 9th house.

Besides the morality of a person is subjective. What is immoral for one may not be for another.



BTW am Hindu, we do not consider Mars as the Devil I have never heard of such falsehood before.Mars forms part of the Navagraha Deities that we hindus worship. He is ''the warrior''. Mars is known as Angaraka or called as the son of Bhumi,was a celibate. Might I add that Bhumi is the God of Earth. Each of these planets has a story for the Hindus. They are not just planets, they are demi-gods and were blessed by Lord Shiva, and were granted boons, and 'lokas'.
 

Blue Lioness

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I am not talking about Mars being the Lord of the 9th house.

Besides the morality of a person is subjective. What is immoral for one may not be for another.

BTW am Hindu, we do not consider Mars as the Devil I have never heard of such falsehood before. Mars forms part of the Navagraha Deities that we hindus worship. He is ''the warrior''. Mars is known as Angaraka or called as the son of Bhumi,was a celibate. Might I add that Bhumi is the God of Earth. Each of these planets has a story for the Hindus. They are not just planets, they are demi-gods and were blessed by Lord Shiva, and were granted boons, and 'lokas'.

red, what you said about Mars in Hinduism is really beautiful. Mars is one of my most dominant planets and one of my favorites, and it has a very beautiful side.

I also don't think Mars is the Devil. my Mars is in Aries, its ruler, and in the 9th house and it has nothing to do with what Clinton Soule has mentioned about imorality or "selfishness, the BIG BABY SYNDRONE, the Radical preaching on the soapbox, one with their own views whom is typically at odds with society or the laws of said culture"

actually, some days ago, waybread said really interesting things about my Mars in the 9th house, which made perfect sense to me. I think it worths the reading, since it can also be of some help to those who have this placement.

Mars rules athletes. Mars is extra-strong in its own sign of Aries. A French couple named Michel and Francoise Gauquelin some decades ago conducted statistical research on nativities, using French birth records and their equivalent of the Who's Who to determine careers of notable and semi-notable people. They found that Mars in the 9th was prominent in the charts of sports champions. Most of their results could not be duplicated by other researchers but the so-called Mars Effect still seems valid today. They used a different system of horoscope division than our normal 12 houses, but you're probably still within their higher-than-average range.

Mars, of course, rules other things besides athletes. Some would suggest you look overseas for Mr. Right. But with that square to Neptune, I wonder if buried inside isn't a woman who would enjoy the challenge of ocean sailing. (Even if you never learned to swim.) One of the early meanings of the 9th is "journeys over water." The 9th rules various types of mental activities that broaden our intellectual horizons, as well, such as higher education and philosophy. But your elevated Mars in Aries looks like an action-oriented planet.
 
M

may28gemini

I think Mars in the 9th house are argumentative and need to prove something all the time, sort of into fighting "based upon general principle."
 
M

may28gemini

Mars is masculine and nocturnal. I think sect does play an important role. When Mars is placed above the horizon, he's not all that comfortable and can be easily provoked, esp. in such an open house like the 9th. If you get feminine Mars placed above the horizon, I think that further provokes Mars to be in a preemptive attack mode because he's definitely not comfortable. Of course, there are exceptions such as exalted and dignified signs are both feminine, essential dignity happens in angular houses so Mars being in 10th would be an appropriate spot, and Mars placed in hidden houses above the horizon mitigates some troubles such as 8th and 12th houses. But generally, I think Mars very uncomfortable if feminine and placed above the horizon.

I've meet many kinds of Mars in the 9th house and all of them love to argue based upon "principle" and they have even told me so. Granted, I met the majority of these people (as far as I know) when I was attending University for my bachelor's and met all kinds of idealistic debaters as classmates. I did not meet many of those when I went to another University for my master's when I became the instructor. But I guess I got lucky having students who listened to me and followed my direction rather than argue with me at my every word :lol:
 
Red stated:

I am not talking about Mars being the Lord of the 9th house.

As I understand if there are NO planets in the 9th yet Aries or Scorpio are on the 9th cusp it similarly acts as if Mars were in the 9th; I said similar not exactly.

#2 As Lilly and others prior to him noted as practiced by Lilly, known as 'Lilly's 5 degree rule', in that say we use Regiomontanus because Lilly did and Mars is actually in the 8th at 4 deg. and 45 min. from cjt to the 9th cusp. Lilly writes '...that planet's virtue will be in that house..'. Most likely it is felt as if it were almost Lord of that house as it is on the cusp.

Red:

Besides the morality of a person is subjective. What is immoral for one may not be for another.


Yes, if one is orthodox in any of the world's major religions and we somewhat understand their perspective we note their platforms or the stands of their beliefs. There are many Hindu and Islamic business owners in California and Nevada, I always make a point to discuss with them their respective beliefs and most of those two faiths present an ideal of a standard even if those I am speaking with DO NOT nessasarily uphold the Hindu nor Moslem beliefs while owning businesses that Sell what would be questionably illegal in India or Saudia Arabia!


IE. Most of the Hindu and Moslem convenience store owners in California and Nevada sell an abundance of Alcohol; as I understand in many Moslem nations one will spend a long time in prison for public intoxication and it is truly these vary business's that compromise their religion's ethics by selling this to those in my region with severe alcohol problems.
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IE. #2 I was talking to an owner who claims to be devoutly Hindu who told me "..Pornography and those who model are deeply scorned in India, illegal, yet he and every Hindu and Moslem convenience store I've been in always has porno magazines and videos on their shelf to sell: of which I DO NOT buy.

Because of the recent PURITAIN revival on our Forum I'm not going to post the evidence of pornography sold in West Coast Convenience or liquor stores; others will have to state what they have noted!:cool:

I was looking for a website to substantiate this practice, but I'm certain many on our Forum on the West Coast have noted this for decades; so obvious!

IE #3 25 years ago before the oil mad barons(USA corporate magnates) from the west stirred up all the terror in the Middle East it was strongly noted that many wealthy Moslem sheiks when in England were noted as the ethnic group who visited England's prostitutes more than any other group! It that the Islam teachings from their Queran(Koran) of just sinful compromizes made because they aren't under that law while away from home?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam

...Some Muslim scholars, such as Sheikh al-Islam Imam Malik, and Imam Shafi, .... and female prostitutes likewise report the demand for anal penetration from their (male) ....
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So yes, just like there are Christians whom are illiterate about astrology(9th house according to Lilly), and Christians who illigetimitize Christ's teachings about sexuality, fornication, adultery, etc. as written in Chritianity's 66 canonized documents there evidently are Hindus, Moslems, Hebrews, etc., that compromise their faith's(9th house) teachings.

Red:

BTW am Hindu, we do not consider Mars as the Devil I have never heard of such falsehood before.Mars forms part of the Navagraha Deities that we hindus worship. He is ''the warrior''. Mars is known as Angaraka or called as the son of Bhumi,was a celibate. Might I add that Bhumi is the God of Earth. Each of these planets has a story for the Hindus. They are not just planets, they are demi-gods and were blessed by Lord Shiva, and were granted boons, and 'lokas'.

I got my data on the Hindu belief of Mars parralelling the Christian concept of the Devil from various Hindu business men in the community that somewhat understand Christianity, but as you have heard they also compromise Hindu standards as some claim to be devout yet sell Pornographic material in their shops.

Also even if I caught HISTORY CHANNEL in various projected misunderstandings, they in their shows on Hindu culture have referenced Mars as the Devil from time to time in their broadcasts. You see the problem with propaganda true or otherwise!

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It's like in my Nation that illigetimizes the term IN GOD WE TRUST yet we have put on the endangered speacies list pedofiles which is definitely Anti-Christian as is the compromised autrocities that I have cited that exist on the planet that are deviants to their respective faiths as Judeo-Christianity was the foundation of the USA, but no longer!

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It is known that the actor above died in a nation where Pedophilia is somewhat accepted. See why religion and following it may be important?
 
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Zarathu

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What in the world are you talking about, Clinton? Sounds like some kind of ravings but I've got no idea what it has to do with astrology.
 
My natal mercury is NOT perfect:sad:, though pretty sound and I well know their are possibly those on various Forums who have either an afflicted mercury or the lord of their 3rd is debilitated!:sad::sad::sad::sad:

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But here is a fine example in Olivia Barclay's natal horoscope of NO PLANETS POSITED in the 9th yet Mars clearly rules the 9th providing the house cusp is correct; of which I trust the astrologer's judgment who created her horoscope for us!:rightful:

http://www.qhdc.org/barclay/

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Note adept Olivia's 9th house Lord is in the third(Lilly says '...that is so comfortable...') and in the action sign of cardinal or as Lilly would say 'Moveble sign'. Olivia Pioneered us into another realm as she was a leader:aries:, a radical:mars: as she revolutionized Traditionalism as to be devoutly studied regardless of her contemporary's scorn who had been in the 'Moderne mindset' too long!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Barclay

In 1980, Barclay obtained an original copy of Lilly's Christian Astrology, and later she arranged to have it re-printed as a facsimile edition in 1985. This dissemination of Christian Astrology helped to spur a revival of interest in traditional astrology in the late 20th-century.[2] Her work stimulated the unearthing of techniques that had been lost in various cultural transitions since the Enlightenment and encouraged wider researches into the astrological traditions of the Babylonians, Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, Arabs, Western medieval and Renaissance practitioners.

Olivia, if one has read all she wrote was Mars 'on the soap box preaching' astrology and quoting much Biblical Scripture that many evidently have not yet noticed; all 9th house rulership related in her case!

If one were a Martial Arts student and revered Bruce Lee, would it be wise in order to become as skilled as Bruce Lee to study and know what Bruce Lee knew?

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Olivia Barclay with her Mars lord of the 9th(astrology according to Lilly was not among the 'also-ran-pseudo-astrologers' like many whom exhibit charlatanism that William F. Lilly and his devout friend Henry Coley spoke against! Olivia with her Mars ruled 9th, lead in an aries fashion many onto the promised lad of horary that all who devoutly study where she walked are entirely grateful; well she had the devil ruling the 9th she had to shake things up in speech and communication as Lucifer was posited in the 3rd!

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Or shall we stay in the dark when one so dear as Olivia with her Mars ruled 9th house has pioneered the way!:unsure:
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