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Don't mean to interrupt you guys, but here is the natal and progressed of the flavour of the week. Beto O'Rourke. Why is he having his 15 minutes of fame right now?
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It’s not blue; it’s azul.

It’s not big; it’s large.

Also, I’m not supporting “safety-net capitalism.” I’m supporting free market capitalism.
Making the world safe for sociopaths. Interesting goal!
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Don't mean to interrupt you guys, but here is the natal and progressed of the flavour of the week. Beto O'Rourke. Why is he having his 15 minutes of fame right now?
Mars is transiting his natal Moon and squaring his natal Venus.
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Making the world safe for sociopaths. Interesting goal!
Making the world safe for the productive and high achievers*
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Making the world safe for the productive and high achievers*
They do just fine within the Safety-net Capitalistic system. It's the sociopaths who suffer.
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They do just fine within the Safety-net Capitalistic system. It's the sociopaths who suffer.
Actually they dont do well, and neither does anyone else cuz limiting freedom.
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Actually they dont do well, and neither does anyone else cuz limiting freedom.
Yeah, poor Jeff Bezos....
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Yeah, poor Jeff Bezos....
He probably makes 30 cents for every dollar he makes. Literally a slave.
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Mars is transiting his natal Moon and squaring his natal Venus.
In wide trine to his mars/pluto conjunction. This might give more power to the transiting mars aspect. It also forms a grand trine with the north node.
The progressed north node is caught up in the current pluto/saturn transit in Capricorn.
And the transiting mars is opposite progressed sun.
Progressed moon in ambitious Capricorn squares progressed mars.
Really sorry we don't have a birth time to set these powerful aspects in context.
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A facist is not a left wing socialist...far from it. Check your definitions.
Really? lets review the facts then.

- Fascists believe in goverment control of the economy.

- Fascists promote the "welfare-state" in which the goverment provides free education and health-care, along with monetary aid.

- Fascists employ massive propaganda and control of the media, sponsored by the goverment.

- Fascists abolish the rights of citizens, mainly freedom of expression and the ability to criticise the goverment.

- Fascists in Europe only allowed for a single party system of politics, like communists did in Cuba, China, Russia, etc.

All of these are left-wing ideals. In contrast to right-wing ideals, be it "conservatism" or "libertarianism" are based on decentralization of the economy without much goverment involvement, a smaller goverment bureaucracy, individual liberty, and respect for constitutional rights. By definition all of these theorems I just mentioned, can't be part of the right-wing spectrum. They can only be part of the left-wing spectrum. Lets also notice some similarities between the communist and fascists regimes, such as criticism of capitalism.

Those are the facts. Now lets look at some interesting details about the leaders of fascist regimes: Mussolini was a member of the italian communist party, before he was expelled and created his own party; Hitler joined the "national socialist-workers party", whose membership was mainly composed of left-wing working class blue collar citizens. It is clear that both individuals hold political views that were compatible with left-wing policy, because they promoted marxists views. If you check all the communist parties around the world, they all claim to represent the "working class", in a similar manner as the fascists did.

As you can see greybeard. Fasicsm is a left-wing ideal. It can't be right-wing because its incompatible with all the premises of the right-wing spectrum of limited goverment. Like socialism, the fascists believe in a big goverment taking over things.
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Really? lets review the facts then.

- Fascists believe in goverment control of the economy.

- Fascists promote the "welfare-state" in which the goverment provides free education and health-care, along with monetary aid.

- Fascists employ massive propaganda and control of the media, sponsored by the goverment.

- Fascists abolish the rights of citizens, mainly freedom of expression and the ability to criticise the goverment.

- Fascists in Europe only allowed for a single party system of politics, like communists did in Cuba, China, Russia, etc.

All of these are left-wing ideals. In contrast to right-wing ideals, be it "conservatism" or "libertarianism" are based on decentralization of the economy without much goverment involvement, a smaller goverment bureaucracy, individual liberty, and respect for constitutional rights. By definition all of these theorems I just mentioned, can't be part of the right-wing spectrum. They can only be part of the left-wing spectrum. Lets also notice some similarities between the communist and fascists regimes, such as criticism of capitalism.

Those are the facts. Now lets look at some interesting details about the leaders of fascist regimes: Mussolini was a member of the italian communist party, before he was expelled and created his own party; Hitler joined the "national socialist-workers party", whose membership was mainly composed of left-wing working class blue collar citizens. It is clear that both individuals hold political views that were compatible with left-wing policy, because they promoted marxists views. If you check all the communist parties around the world, they all claim to represent the "working class", in a similar manner as the fascists did.

As you can see greybeard. Fasicsm is a left-wing ideal. It can't be right-wing because its incompatible with all the premises of the right-wing spectrum of limited goverment. Like socialism, the fascists believe in a big goverment taking over things.
It can be left OR right-wing. The right-wing loves authority figures, and wants a "strong leader". In fact, the term "right-wing" originated as an appellation for monarchists.

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Here, the progressive conservatives are a lot like the liberals. The closest we have to a conservative party at this point is the People's Party of Canada, which was formed after Max Bernier split with the PCs.

He's not gonna win the election, sadly. But he's the only one who's been making any sense.

The liberals are in a meltdown over a financial scandal with favours to a company they have strong ties with and attempting to pressure the attorney general into not prosecuting said company for rampant corruption, and it's bad enough that I think Justin isn't going to recover for the election in October.

But...the PC leader, Andrew Scheer, is Trudeau-lite and possibly even more vapid than Justin is, so....

It's not looking good for your neighbours to the north.
OK, but the only man that we have in office who even remotely resembles Donald Trump is Doug Ford, premier of Ontario. Thankfully I don't live there.

Justin Trudeau may be vapid, but he's a paragon of virtue compared to Trump.

The new progressives like Ocasio-Cortez have a lot to learn, but they were elected by people who couldn't just sit back while Trump wrecked the United States.
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No they are not. Democrats care about spending taxpayer money on themselves, to benefit their own position. That is why most of them are rich by the time they retire.

The republican voter base likes Trump for 2 reasons:

a) Not a career politician
b) Actually talking about the issues that matter: the economy, security, immigration etc.

Whether Trump's solutions to the problems are good or bad, that is debatable. However he has at least make an emphasis on solving them, while other politicians (democrats and republicans alike) just keep rolling the ball, passing the problems to the next generation.
Somewhat incorrect.

Trump has told over 9000 fact-checked lies since he's been in office.

Other politicians talk about the same issues.

His solutions to whatever problems have ballooned the US national debt, alienated US allies, and resulted in some of his inner circle having to resign amid scandal and jail time. His wall idea is ridiculous-- and costly. (Remember his promise that Mexico would pay for it?) The US has more efficient ways to check immigration and drug trafficking. He gives hope to white nationalists engaging in hate crimes.

And to you conservatives out there: he's not actually a conservative.

Ocasio-Cortez has a lot to learn, but she represents a groundswell of Americans who want to take back their country.
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Somewhat incorrect.

Trump has told over 9000 fact-checked lies since he's been in office.

Other politicians talk about the same issues.

His solutions to whatever problems have ballooned the US national debt, alienated US allies, and resulted in some of his inner circle having to resign amid scandal and jail time. His wall idea is ridiculous-- and costly. (Remember his promise that Mexico would pay for it?) The US has more efficient ways to check immigration and drug trafficking. He gives hope to white nationalists engaging in hate crimes.

And to you conservatives out there: he's not actually a conservative.

Ocasio-Cortez has a lot to learn, but she represents a groundswell of Americans who want to take back their country.
Trump, Cortez, and all other leaders suk and it's because the average American is too dumb to demand their freedom back.
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Somewhat incorrect.

Trump has told over 9000 fact-checked lies since he's been in office.

Other politicians talk about the same issues.

His solutions to whatever problems have ballooned the US national debt, alienated US allies, and resulted in some of his inner circle having to resign amid scandal and jail time. His wall idea is ridiculous-- and costly. (Remember his promise that Mexico would pay for it?) The US has more efficient ways to check immigration and drug trafficking. He gives hope to white nationalists engaging in hate crimes.

And to you conservatives out there: he's not actually a conservative.

Ocasio-Cortez has a lot to learn, but she represents a groundswell of Americans who want to take back their country.
As you said, politicians talk about the same issues, but have done no effort to solve them. Trump has at least done it.

Actually you are mistaken waybread, perhaps uninformed about the national debt issue. The national debt has not risen because of Trump, considering none of his policies added a significant amount of spending that would result in an overwhelmingly rise in debt. The truth is that since the Obama era in 2008, the debt of the U.S. has risen close to 1 trillion dollars per year. It is the amount of goverment institutions that were installed during Obama years that have caused that massive increase. So blaming the steady debt to Trump would be naive.

Now as for the increase in 2018, as you pointed out it is because of the tax cuts. However, what you seem to miss is that long-term planning when cutting taxes indicates that federal revenue will go up (more growth leads to more revenue). Is this what happened? well lets see: in Trump era the federal tax revenue has reached a historic high. And this is only after a year and a half of tax cuts. Also, Trump has recently called for a budget cut to reduce federal spending, so he does plan to deal with the debt and balance the budget. You speak of him as if he had finished the job, but I think you need to have some clarity and learn about economics a lil bit: you need to focus on long-term planning.

AOC only represents her pockets waybread. Like all commie swine do. She has already been hit by a campaign scandal about miss-handling funds. Or hasn't CNN told you about that? guess not. Oh and then there is that thing when she makes her boyfriend earn a 60k salary from the tax-payer's pocket each year (unlike Ivanka Trump who works in the white house for free, taking no salary).
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Why did Trump take his club's golfing championship away from the guy who actually won it?

Ans: He couldn't stand to see Virtue triumph.
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Why did Trump take his club's golfing championship away from the guy who actually won it?

Ans: He couldn't stand to see Virtue triumph.
A CEO named Ted Virtue won the club's championship this year, but Trump took it away from him on the grounds that he, himself didn't compete but would have won if he had!
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Sports team could use this logic ()! If their star player is sidelined, they can claim victory because if it weren't for that, they WOULD have won.
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AppLeo, there's a socialist hiding under your bed.

Dirius, there are two socialists hiding in your closet.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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AppLeo, there's a socialist hiding under your bed.

Dirius, there are two socialists hiding in your closet.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.
One of them is an I.RS. Agent!!!
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One of them is an I.RS. Agent!!!
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AppLeo, there's a socialist hiding under your bed.

Dirius, there are two socialists hiding in your closet.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.
With my ability to reason, I have the courage to slay any socialist monster that comes my way!! >:l
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AppLeo, there's a socialist hiding under your bed.

Dirius, there are two socialists hiding in your closet.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Oh you think its funny right? Of course, guess its fine in Canada with their textbook socialism - people in my country have unfortunately been killed by "socialists hiding in their closet".

Has anyone in your family ever been killed by a socialist revolutionary soldier? Tortured to death by them? Please learn a little bit about history before making fun of it. A lot of people have had their family members brutally murdered by "socialists hiding under their beds", and actually this is the case for many. Paula Lambruschini died from a bomb a socialist placed under her bed.

But I guess to you its just something to laugh at. I find that disgusting.

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What's happening to the migrant children the Trump administration has disappeared?
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What's happening to the migrant children the Trump administration has disappeared?

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/0...te-pedophiles/

Trump Feeding “Tear Away” Immigrant Kids to America’s “Elite Pedophiles

There are two primary ratlines for stolen kids, one in Europe, one in America. Here it runs from New York, to Washington, to Florida, three areas where law enforcement and the courts are owned. DC courts were stacked by the neocons under Bush43 after the Franklin pedophile scandals threatened to bring down a presidency.
Florida is totally owned, courts, local police departments, sheriffs elections, along with totally corrupt Tallahassee. New York is the same, with payoff cash running the ratline from drug ridden Montreal, down through Albany to the Kosher Nostra dens of the Trump/Kushner empire.
The “elites,” as they love calling themselves, who own the Federal Reserve, run Washington and London, who start our wars, loot our economy, run our media, control our lives, live on a diet of ritual sexual abuse, sex hormones and amphetamines.
Their diet of stolen children come from families destroyed by narcotics or targeted by fake courts and fake police. Kids seized by “family services” are picked through and fed into the rape and murder mill of the real “Pizzagate,” built around those who own the GOP.
Adding to this is the beauty pageant circuit and the fake “modeling” business where our current first lady comes from, picking through the beauties of Central and Eastern Europe whose governments are entirely compromised, Slovenia, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine (now), Croatia and Slovakia. They are planning to add Montenegro and Serbia to the list.
The European end runs kids from Africa and the Middle East, up through Spain or Albania, ratlining them to Belgium, where they are sent to Germany and Britain and later simply disposed of.
In America, it began with “boy’s homes” and detention centers. It began with teenage boys but, as it moved on, it became smaller and smaller children.
For Washington, it has always been pre-teen girls until the Reagan era when the “gay mafia” of the neocon’s took over. This is when Trump and Epstein came into power as “suppliers to America’s leadership.”
Kids that hit the US border, and this is Trump’s doing 100%, are picked through like meat, the “prime kids” are sent off to pedophile rings run by Trump cronies, to be passed around Pentagon brass, Tea Party get togethers and among the GOP faithful. They are stored at elite hunting “camps” and “religious retreats” owned by billionaires and big corporate donors. We aren’t making this up, it isn’t fake news and it was originally “busted” as the Franklin Scandal.
Always blame the Democrats, this is typical of Trump’s propaganda “fake everything” machine
It is now supposedly the “Law of the Land” according to Trump. He made that part up. This is the why of Pizzagate and the “Lock her Up!” chants and those involved in this disinformation campaign were covering up more than Trump’s obscene “foundation” or the murder of 12 year old Mary Doe or the rape of little Jane Doe.
This is why Epstein flew so many on his plane, to “soften” the numbers, to “hide in a crowd” when it came out that he and Donnie were running a blackmail ring for the Kosher Nostra. Those free rides on the Lolita Express for some may have been innocent but accepting this “gift” gave Epstein and Trump all they needed.
Imagine the worst thing Bill Clinton is accused of is riding on a plane with Epstein and Trump?
When it comes to “fake everything,” the “Stone and Bannon Express” deserves credit, and with the help of the mob, Israeli intelligence and a dozen rogue billionaire satanists backing them, took over the US and are using its treasury as a personal piggybank and its military as paid thugs.
Gangs tied to ICE are now officially empowered to simply “disappear” children who come to the American border, no matter the circumstances, with or without parents. This simply isn’t legal. The constitution is very specific about this, due process and constitutional rights apply to all, citizens and non-citizens alike.
According to congress, last year 1475 went officially “missing” while thousands of others were never logged in at all. These were, using Trump’s own language, “Sportin’ kids,” those deemed “doable” by the elites that get a special kick from humiliating and destroying a small human body. In the middle of it are the leaders of Christian evangelical groups across America, TV preachers mixing it up with oil execs, newspaper owners, Harvard law professors and “Stink Tank thugs” of DC’s “lie for pay” propaganda ministry.
From the Washintgon Post, May 29, 2018:

Press TV: US President Donald Trump has falsely defended his administration’s policy of separating undocumented families at the US-Mexico border by blaming Democratic Party lawmakers in Congress.
“I hate the children being taken away. The Democrats have to change their law. That’s their law,” Trump said Friday while speaking to a group of reporters outside the White House.
However, no law US mandates separating children from their parents who illegally enter the country. Reporters repeatedly noted to Trump that his statement about the policy was untrue.
“[Attorney General Jeff Sessions is] following laws, very simply, that were given to us and forced upon us by the Democrats,” Trump said.
“But there’s no law that says families have to be separated at the border,” a reporter responded.
“The Democrats gave us the laws. I want the laws to be beautiful,” Trump repeated.
Nearly 2,000 immigrant children were separated from parents over a period of about six weeks in April and May, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
The number is a dramatic uptick from the nearly 1,800 family separations from October 2016 through February 2018.
Currently, there are over 10,000 children being detained in the United States.

PressTV-US churches slam biblical justification of separating families

US Christian leaders slam Attorney General Jeff Sessions for saying Bible justifies separating kids from families.

The Trump administration’s current policy of separating families was announced April 6 and went into effect in May. Previously, people who entered the country illegally and had no criminal record were detained or referred for deportation, and mothers and children usually remained together.
Democrats have condemned the new process, calling it inhumane and cruel. “This is not a zero-tolerance policy — this is a zero-humanity policy,” said Senator Jeff Merkley, who recently visited detention centers in Texas to see where immigrant children were being held.
A US border patrol official told Reuters children are sometimes separated from the adults they are traveling with if officials suspect the relationship is fraudulent.
Once children are separated, they are treated as unaccompanied minors under the care of the Department of Health and Human Services, which houses them in government facilities, puts them in temporary foster care, or releases them to adult sponsors in the United States.
The moves by the government to separate families have been widely decried by the United Nations, medical professionals and a wide swath of US religious leaders
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