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Unread 11-09-2019, 03:21 PM
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Binge eating 12th house..

I have struggled with disordered eating since I was 13. My go to for the last 8 years has been binge eating. Mostly LARGE quantities of sugared food. As I age my body really can't take it, which has led to digestive issues. I've worked on emotionally for years, but can't seem to really get a handle on it. If money were no object I would go to some retreat center for a month and tackle it once and for all. I was listening to an astrologer webinar and she talked a bit about disordered eating so it caught my ear. She talked about looking to the 12th house for our neurotic behavior, but that was all she said. I am not clear on what that means. I have gravitated to using the Koch house system, which puts my Mars in the 12th house. I don't know if my disordered eating then is a result of not being able to express anger (truth). In fact, I am very disconnected from my anger. I had a therapist who told me I was very angry. Completely detached from that. Maybe. Anyway, this Scorpio season, I am diving in again to get to the root of it and going to the chart this time. WOuld love some input on how to work with the chart heal this pattern of eating. Are there any transit point to actually getting some healing around this. Thank yoU!
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Re: Binge eating 12th house..

I would look first to Moon Saturn/12th house matters in the chart. Moon is about mother, food, body. Saturn is form, restriction, impedence in the flowing comfort that Moon may offer us.

We see that your Moon, in detached Aquarius, is in fact ruled by Saturn. And Saturn is impeded from expressing itself in a whole, full fashion, since it is in the sign of its fall, Aries, is also retrograde and is lacking any traditional aspect, so not well expressed or integrated into the chart
Further, looking to Saturn's ruler, and we find ourselves in the 12th, as Mars rules Saturn from the 12th.

Moon-Saturn-12th

And this matter with the Moon is a strongly amplified in your life by Moon's exact, partile opposition with Jupiter.

So there is the inclination toward disordered eating, actually in any and all of its forms. And in my experience, it is awareness of what is actually going on before, during and after you binge, that can begin to point you toward some healing. And then the immediate response to whatever you allow yourself to become aware of, both mind or body, is to connect with the deepest and most generous expression of your inherent goodness and compassion toward yourself.

A lot of words,,,I know. But you can start with some very small step.
My heart sincerely goes out to you and I am wishing you the very best.
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Re: Binge eating 12th house..

I should be red-faced as I type this, as we had a lot of leftover Halloween candy this year, and I was stuffing some into my face while reading your post! I have binge tendencies as well, and one commonality in our horoscopes is moon opposite Venus.

This makes sense, because Venus rules sweets and the moon rules both one's emotional state and stomach. The opposition indicates a sense of tension.

I would think that your Uranus-Pluto square Mars would also contribution some tension in your life. This is usually an explosive combination. As a child, were you taught that anger is wrong and bad, and you were never allowed to express it in a healthy way? Can you take up some kind of high-impact sport that would allow you to express your Mars in a constructive way?

I note that Jupiter rules your 12th house. Jupiter is the energy of, "If a little is good, a lot is better." Unfortunately, this isn't so true for us .

Carbohydrates are a sedative. So while some people cannot eat if they feel nervous or upset, we are just the opposite.

I wonder if the problem might be your nutrition. Aside from the quantity of food, are you getting the right amount of protein, vitamins, minerals, and fiber? What would happen if you ate a lot of lean meat or something high-fiber (like oatmeal with skim milk or kale chips) instead of sugary food?

See if this kind of thinking helps:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/healt...yer/index.html
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Re: Binge eating 12th house..

I think it is important to clarify there is a difference of overeating vs binging. The latter is more psychological. I've done the no sugar diets, the no carb, paleo, Whole30. I've pretty much done all the trends over time. In the mid-80's I signed up for Weight Watchers, which was absurd as that time I was too thin at that time of my life- that was the excessive restriction part of my life. I'm still shocked they took my money.
It's true to really kick a sugar habit, you have to increase your protein. I've read and studied the physiology of food so much, I should get an honorary degree in Nutrition. I find, quite honestly, these restriction type diets result in a more exaggerated binge at the end. However, if I could really stay with a Whole30 rich in protein diet, I do feel much better. It is the compulsive behavior lack of control that is my challenge.
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Re: Binge eating 12th house..

I understand the difference, CaprLibraSquared.

Several things occurred to me. Did your Mars by any chance go retrograde during your life? And what is Ceres doing in your horoscope, natally and now? And did your binge eating start at a particular time in your life, or was it always with you? Sometimes timing a sudden-onset event can clarify the astro-influences.

This may be unrelated to your food habits, but normally someone with Mars square Saturn-Pluto would need to enact this hard aspect in some way; whether constructively or destructively. How do you express these planets now?
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Re: Binge eating 12th house..

I am not sure I understand the Mars question. In my progressed chart? I am not super advanced in astrology. I know Mars goes rx every 26 months?

My memory of the binging/hoarding food was probably around 13-15. HS. Once I started earning my own money I would secretly buy and eat LARGE amounts of food. I hid cookies under my bed. I went from binging to extreme control as had to keep my weight down for HS dance team.

Interest you ask about Ceres. I was looking at that yesterday. Don't know much about Ceres, but in my chart this is the details. I am still reading about it.
Virgo 8th house
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Mars Square Ceres
Neptune Sextile Ceres
Pluto, Uranus Conjunction Ceres
Chiron Opposition Ceres
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Re: Binge eating 12th house..

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I am not sure I understand the Mars question. In my progressed chart? I am not super advanced in astrology. I know Mars goes rx every 26 months?

My memory of the binging/hoarding food was probably around 13-15. HS. Once I started earning my own money I would secretly buy and eat LARGE amounts of food. I hid cookies under my bed. I went from binging to extreme control as had to keep my weight down for HS dance team.

Interest you ask about Ceres. I was looking at that yesterday. Don't know much about Ceres, but in my chart this is the details. I am still reading about it.
Virgo 8th house
Aspects:
Mars Square Ceres
Neptune Sextile Ceres
Pluto, Uranus Conjunction Ceres
Chiron Opposition Ceres
Right-- did Mars go retrograde in your progressed chart? You can cast it at Astrodienst, as well. I ask because Mars rules our natural assertiveness and aggression, but with Mars retrograde, these energies are turned inward, so Mars retrograde people tend to be very hard on themselves.

As you know, binge eating can be a response to stress, as carbohydrates are a sedative.

Dwarf planet Ceres is not well understood, but given the Roman goddess for which it was named, Ceres does seem to have something to do with food. It appears that Ceres is involved in some stressful aspects in your chart.

There are some examples where Ceres square Saturn is related to anorexia, and Ceres square Pluto is related to bulimia; so Ceres' involvement in eating disorders more generally is worth considering.
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Unread 11-13-2019, 05:40 PM
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Re: Binge eating 12th house..

If you missed the windows of insight provided in this thread, you may not fare a lot better with an MD, as they are typically pressed for time. Most do not address psychological issues with any training or depth. You might do better with a psychotherapist. The methods they suggest to you may include talking and writing through your experience and emotion in the moment and by journaling.

Frisiangal, beautifully articulated, as usual.
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