piercethevale
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NOTE: In the following text to this post #1 there are a few errors that I have noted in the edit process. I am leaving the original post intact for integritys' sake and have also given notice that all revisions are made in post #11. I apologize for this gaff...I apparently picked up the notes from my initial draft rather than the outline I make after casting an event chart. This changed the analysis of what symbolic meaning is to be seen in the path of Venus from late this December to late January, 2014
ptv
Well, realizing how a simple variation of the title I had intended for this thread would then probably read like a "Hit" for every porno search engine out there and for the sheer confusion and frustration that will cause such a great deal of consternation, that I couldn't resist the temptation. {"HA! A little 'Rickroll' of my own from Me to you... Payback is a B****, ain't it?"}
Now then... lets talk Astrology.
Jupiter is the first of the next four Planets to go retrograde, commencing tomorrow Nov. 6th, followed by that of Venus this Dec 21st. During this retro journey of Jupiter it will cross over the M.C. of the USA natal chart [the Zero Hour, 12:00:01 a.m. July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, Penn.] twice...once in retrograde and then in direct motion.
Saturn and then Pluto join in retrograde in the middle of the Venus/Jupiter fandango.
I figure that at least a few of those of you reading this post have read at least one of the threads I have on retrograde Planets and the manner in how a Planet involved in the activity is doing what I liken to a 'Three step dance'. The point of initial retrograde motion to be that of an impasse reached by the particular inherent qualities of the Planet in relation to in its role of intermediary transmitter of Zodiacal energies to our own Planet, Tera. Those Zodiacal energies particular to the degree of the Zodiac in question literally symbolized by the Sabian Symbols.The position of the Moons' North Node at that moment provides the reason given for this impasse and the need for the return point from which the Planet goes in direct motion againi is the quality of the Cosmic Precept given for the degree of the Zodiac the Planet must return to so as to breakthrough the point of impasse on its' "Final Return" in direct motion [as the event has been notably dubbed by many astrologers] with the reason for that particular Zodiacal degrees' Perceptual reinforcement given by the Sabian Symbolism of the Moons' North Node as to why this particular Planet had to reinforce itself... with the summation of the entire affairs' efforts, the significant emphasis is directed for what particular noble cause by the last position of the North Node at the "Final Return" event.
Here's a subject that could really use a look see to the Sabians during the course of the event for noting all the three step do-si-do ...retrograde-direct return-final return..... dance of four Planets...the two Behemoths...Saturn the Disciplinarian and Jupiter the Life Coach & Spiritual Counsel watching over and referee-ing as Venus, Love & Beauty and Pluto, Death & Transformation try to learn to "get along" while paying particular observation to the Moons No. Node positions at the precise time of these astro-events. These are of very interesting and what is the, in manner of comparison, the Pars Hyleg du jour from which all else is founded in the basis of.
Here's a start if you're interested...a report and analysis should at least get out about Venus if none of the others. It's starting at the 29th deg. of Capricorn, that's just 1* 26' from a exact conj. to the USA natal Pluto. and it is going to go all the way back to the 14th degree of Cap. [this is one of the three vacant Septile points on the Yeshu'a natal charts' and Yeshu'a's Part of Destiny [and I just finished reading through a complete reading given by Edgar Cayce back in the 1930's to a group of people wanting to raise their work and their own personalities up higher in vibe and purpose in the highest minded spiritual ideals. Cayce emphasized that the "destiny' of a person is the 'prima facie' facet of being to be most immediately conscious of and kept in mind and recognized as the ultimate endeavor].
Venus rx Dec. 21, 2013 @ apprx 28* Capricorn 59', and on the time of the event the true No. node @ {close enough, only a few minutes of a degree in error. ptv} 06* Scorpio 10' .
Venus direct Jan 31, 2014 @ 13* Capricorn 33'* {the following is in error} True No. Node @ 02* Scorpio 04"
Venus final return to 28* Cap. 59' on March 4, 2014 T No. Node @ 29* Libra 12'
Venus comes to an impasse as to dealing with the symbolism of the 29th of Capricorn:
{from Dane Rudhyar's, "An Astrological Mandala"}
"A WOMAN READING TEA LEAVES.
KEYNOTE: The ability to see the Signature of hidden meaning in every occurrence drawing one's attention.
This fourth stage symbol can be referred to a specific "technique" of understanding or evaluation. What is implied is the ability not only to perceive the facts of everyday existence, but to see through these facts and discover how they are related to the realm of basic meanings or archetypal processes. This is essentially what is meant by true CLAIRVOYANCE, the capacity to see in everything the Signature of deeper realities."
The Planet of Love, Beauty, Refinement...one of the only two Planets between Us and the Sun...the only two things that need to be in existence between us and God's proxy in our System, Sol, the Great Soul... just Mercury and Venus...communication and love ...only thoughts of love..
Venus...trying to get to be able to see the LOVE in every situation ... reading everything like a giant pot of tea leaves but only in the singular attempt, as to, for looking to find the love connection in every instance be it abundant and obvious ...or quite disguised or hidden and subtle but evident and needed,
The question of, what should be obvious as to its' importance is what is causing the impasse? ..keeping Venus from getting tuned in and humming with the right vibe is indicated by the position of the Moons' No. Node at the time, the 8th degree of Scorpio...? [ibid.]
{the following is wrong as it is the symbolism of the 7th degree that is correct. ptv}
"SCORPIO 8*: A CALM LAKE BATHED IN MOONLIGHT.
KEYNOTE: A quiet openness to higher inspiration.
One could stress the romantic suggestions such an image evokes, but even at the level of a love relationship what is implied is a surrender of two personal egos to the inspiration of transcendent feelings which are essentially impersonal. Love expresses itself through the lovers, for real Love is a cosmic undifferentiated principle or power which simply focuses itself within the 'souls' of human beings who reflect its light. The same is true of the mystic's love for God. Man strives hard to achieve great things through daring adventures, but a moment comes when all that really matters is to present a calm mind upon which a supernal light may be reflected.
This is the third stage of the forty-fourth five-fold sequence. It tells us that beyond all efforts lays the need for peace and the readiness to accept the illumination from above. The Keyword is QUIESCENCE"
So Venus has to go back to the 14th of Cap. [13* Cap, 33', Yeshu'a's Part of Destiny and one of the three vacant Septile points that was completed by the Moon when He physically died on the Cross on April 16 [Gregorian] 35 A.D. [or C.E. , for those that prefer] on Jan 31, 2014 , this is what Venus needs to reacquaint itself with...soak up a lot more of the precept as it will slow down, stall, sit and then move forward...soaking up all She can get of 14th* Capricorn precept [Yesh'u'a's Destiny Symbolized...] [ibid.]
"14* CAPRICORN: AN ANCIENT BAS-RELIEF CARVED IN GRANITE REMAINS A WITNESS TO A LONG-FORGOTTEN CULTURE.
KEYNOTE: The will to unearth, in our culture as well as in any culture, what has permanent value, and to let go of nonessentials.
At a time when in nearly every land men are questioning and challenging the validity of traditional beliefs and customary attitudes, it becomes necessary to separate permanent values and great principles or symbols from the many individual habits and the socio-political developments which more often than not have perverted or even negated the original ideals of the culture. We must strive to free these ideals from the wild growth of personal and class selfishness, from the greed and ambition so prevalent in human nature, and learn to appreciate the excellence of what is the immortal seed-foundation, as well as the spiritual harvest, of any culture — and by extension of every sustained and complete work produced by a man's indomitable effort to achieve creative perfection.
In this fourth stage symbol we are shown the procedure which enables us to gain a deep and thorough appreciation of socio-cultural processes in their most enduring forms. What is needed is a penetrating and courageous insight founded upon a valid HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. This applies to the past of an individual's life as well as to the history of a nation or a group."
The No. Node in the 3rd* Scorpio giving reason why Venus need to get a check on a rock solid reality* which is the kind based on what is seen as of the utmost essentiality of our common history,,,, precious common interest [Liberty...Freedom.... the Golden Rule... peacefully in common society that works harmoniously for the betterment of all.that is shown by the 3* of Scorpio for the position of the True No. Node.*[ibid.]
{the following is wrong, as it will occur at 2* Scorpio}
3* SCORPIO: "A HOUSE-RAISING PARTY IN A SMALL VILLAGE ENLISTS THE NEIGHBORS' COOPERATION.
KEYNOTE: The feeling of community demonstrated in a basic joint effort.
In rural neighborhoods, especially as the American West was being developed, the building of at least the framework of a house was often a collective, friendly enterprise. Newcomers building their home-to-be found friendly helpers in their neighbors. The sense of togetherness and participation in a common enterprise was developed by such collective work. The home remains 'our' home, yet the whole community is involved in its erection and the welcome marking its completion.
At this third stage of the five-fold sequence, feeling becomes activity. The past and its memories are re-polarized in terms of the expanded social consciousness. From that activity a new sense of reality will derive. The Keyword is COOPERATION."
Yeah, group huddle... block party, peace ins.... love festivals.... freedom rallies.... Liberty affirmations.... Music Concerts..... Be Ins.... group asanas exercises.... group reiki....mass collective reiki....thundering throng reiki.... sea of humanity reiki.... picnics....parades.....games ..... dance and song***everything that liberty produced and where our individualities shine as they have the liberty to do so.
Venus completes its' 'Final Return' on it's trip back forward on March 4th [March forth Christian Love Emissaries] 2014
So Venus will have to look back in the traditions and all the assorted values and what we regard as sacred knowledge and paring it down to what it finds of beauty and admiration, note it and preserve it and let the rest go like so much chaff in the wind. Find the truly, Heart centered, core values.
Weed out the false but also get rid of all the redundancies of Truth... reason enough being that, 'When Truth can be so simply said to be, "About Liberty"...cause we all know that "The Truth Will Set You Free", then lets just all agree on that Love and Truth is all we need.If It is understood and acknowledged among ourselves that we honor and mutually bow to in respect to the Light of one another and would not knowingly do anything that would be disrespectful or harmful to another Being... then, truly, what more do you need?
Truly... LESS is MORE of what you really need.
But, a society that starts generating a multitude of itemized Liberties that are categorically defined is no longer any kind of, what can be defined as, a society of Liberty and Freedom.
It's simple.
Pull your own weight ["You got to get behind the mule in the morning...you got to get behind the mule and plow."]
Don't harm anyone else or steal from anyone, have a good time and enjoy your stay.
So... Venus on the 31st of January, this coming 2014, will be at the point where now it is ready to attune to the precept of seeing that 'signature of love' in every instance, seeing how it all holds together, what underlying law, "Cosmic Precept" is always having it's way while everything else just works away in it's favor is symbolized by the Moons No. Node at the time @ apprx 29* Libra 12' [ Those 'Three Mounds on the Philosophers Head', symbol.. so it was all about gaining more wisdom, full wisdom of a subject and this time the subject was love, what is of true rock solid value in our humansociety/culture and using that to help us see what the underlying message of love is in our work and dharma, our individual destinies and most importantly our collective one [those of us that believe in a predestiny given us for our spiritual growth and evolution.
...more, to soon follow...
attacheded: Three event charts for Venus rx Dec, '2013 to March, 2014.
ptv
Well, realizing how a simple variation of the title I had intended for this thread would then probably read like a "Hit" for every porno search engine out there and for the sheer confusion and frustration that will cause such a great deal of consternation, that I couldn't resist the temptation. {"HA! A little 'Rickroll' of my own from Me to you... Payback is a B****, ain't it?"}
Now then... lets talk Astrology.
Jupiter is the first of the next four Planets to go retrograde, commencing tomorrow Nov. 6th, followed by that of Venus this Dec 21st. During this retro journey of Jupiter it will cross over the M.C. of the USA natal chart [the Zero Hour, 12:00:01 a.m. July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, Penn.] twice...once in retrograde and then in direct motion.
Saturn and then Pluto join in retrograde in the middle of the Venus/Jupiter fandango.
I figure that at least a few of those of you reading this post have read at least one of the threads I have on retrograde Planets and the manner in how a Planet involved in the activity is doing what I liken to a 'Three step dance'. The point of initial retrograde motion to be that of an impasse reached by the particular inherent qualities of the Planet in relation to in its role of intermediary transmitter of Zodiacal energies to our own Planet, Tera. Those Zodiacal energies particular to the degree of the Zodiac in question literally symbolized by the Sabian Symbols.The position of the Moons' North Node at that moment provides the reason given for this impasse and the need for the return point from which the Planet goes in direct motion againi is the quality of the Cosmic Precept given for the degree of the Zodiac the Planet must return to so as to breakthrough the point of impasse on its' "Final Return" in direct motion [as the event has been notably dubbed by many astrologers] with the reason for that particular Zodiacal degrees' Perceptual reinforcement given by the Sabian Symbolism of the Moons' North Node as to why this particular Planet had to reinforce itself... with the summation of the entire affairs' efforts, the significant emphasis is directed for what particular noble cause by the last position of the North Node at the "Final Return" event.
Here's a subject that could really use a look see to the Sabians during the course of the event for noting all the three step do-si-do ...retrograde-direct return-final return..... dance of four Planets...the two Behemoths...Saturn the Disciplinarian and Jupiter the Life Coach & Spiritual Counsel watching over and referee-ing as Venus, Love & Beauty and Pluto, Death & Transformation try to learn to "get along" while paying particular observation to the Moons No. Node positions at the precise time of these astro-events. These are of very interesting and what is the, in manner of comparison, the Pars Hyleg du jour from which all else is founded in the basis of.
Here's a start if you're interested...a report and analysis should at least get out about Venus if none of the others. It's starting at the 29th deg. of Capricorn, that's just 1* 26' from a exact conj. to the USA natal Pluto. and it is going to go all the way back to the 14th degree of Cap. [this is one of the three vacant Septile points on the Yeshu'a natal charts' and Yeshu'a's Part of Destiny [and I just finished reading through a complete reading given by Edgar Cayce back in the 1930's to a group of people wanting to raise their work and their own personalities up higher in vibe and purpose in the highest minded spiritual ideals. Cayce emphasized that the "destiny' of a person is the 'prima facie' facet of being to be most immediately conscious of and kept in mind and recognized as the ultimate endeavor].
Venus rx Dec. 21, 2013 @ apprx 28* Capricorn 59', and on the time of the event the true No. node @ {close enough, only a few minutes of a degree in error. ptv} 06* Scorpio 10' .
Venus direct Jan 31, 2014 @ 13* Capricorn 33'* {the following is in error} True No. Node @ 02* Scorpio 04"
Venus final return to 28* Cap. 59' on March 4, 2014 T No. Node @ 29* Libra 12'
Venus comes to an impasse as to dealing with the symbolism of the 29th of Capricorn:
{from Dane Rudhyar's, "An Astrological Mandala"}
"A WOMAN READING TEA LEAVES.
KEYNOTE: The ability to see the Signature of hidden meaning in every occurrence drawing one's attention.
This fourth stage symbol can be referred to a specific "technique" of understanding or evaluation. What is implied is the ability not only to perceive the facts of everyday existence, but to see through these facts and discover how they are related to the realm of basic meanings or archetypal processes. This is essentially what is meant by true CLAIRVOYANCE, the capacity to see in everything the Signature of deeper realities."
The Planet of Love, Beauty, Refinement...one of the only two Planets between Us and the Sun...the only two things that need to be in existence between us and God's proxy in our System, Sol, the Great Soul... just Mercury and Venus...communication and love ...only thoughts of love..
Venus...trying to get to be able to see the LOVE in every situation ... reading everything like a giant pot of tea leaves but only in the singular attempt, as to, for looking to find the love connection in every instance be it abundant and obvious ...or quite disguised or hidden and subtle but evident and needed,
The question of, what should be obvious as to its' importance is what is causing the impasse? ..keeping Venus from getting tuned in and humming with the right vibe is indicated by the position of the Moons' No. Node at the time, the 8th degree of Scorpio...? [ibid.]
{the following is wrong as it is the symbolism of the 7th degree that is correct. ptv}
"SCORPIO 8*: A CALM LAKE BATHED IN MOONLIGHT.
KEYNOTE: A quiet openness to higher inspiration.
One could stress the romantic suggestions such an image evokes, but even at the level of a love relationship what is implied is a surrender of two personal egos to the inspiration of transcendent feelings which are essentially impersonal. Love expresses itself through the lovers, for real Love is a cosmic undifferentiated principle or power which simply focuses itself within the 'souls' of human beings who reflect its light. The same is true of the mystic's love for God. Man strives hard to achieve great things through daring adventures, but a moment comes when all that really matters is to present a calm mind upon which a supernal light may be reflected.
This is the third stage of the forty-fourth five-fold sequence. It tells us that beyond all efforts lays the need for peace and the readiness to accept the illumination from above. The Keyword is QUIESCENCE"
So Venus has to go back to the 14th of Cap. [13* Cap, 33', Yeshu'a's Part of Destiny and one of the three vacant Septile points that was completed by the Moon when He physically died on the Cross on April 16 [Gregorian] 35 A.D. [or C.E. , for those that prefer] on Jan 31, 2014 , this is what Venus needs to reacquaint itself with...soak up a lot more of the precept as it will slow down, stall, sit and then move forward...soaking up all She can get of 14th* Capricorn precept [Yesh'u'a's Destiny Symbolized...] [ibid.]
"14* CAPRICORN: AN ANCIENT BAS-RELIEF CARVED IN GRANITE REMAINS A WITNESS TO A LONG-FORGOTTEN CULTURE.
KEYNOTE: The will to unearth, in our culture as well as in any culture, what has permanent value, and to let go of nonessentials.
At a time when in nearly every land men are questioning and challenging the validity of traditional beliefs and customary attitudes, it becomes necessary to separate permanent values and great principles or symbols from the many individual habits and the socio-political developments which more often than not have perverted or even negated the original ideals of the culture. We must strive to free these ideals from the wild growth of personal and class selfishness, from the greed and ambition so prevalent in human nature, and learn to appreciate the excellence of what is the immortal seed-foundation, as well as the spiritual harvest, of any culture — and by extension of every sustained and complete work produced by a man's indomitable effort to achieve creative perfection.
In this fourth stage symbol we are shown the procedure which enables us to gain a deep and thorough appreciation of socio-cultural processes in their most enduring forms. What is needed is a penetrating and courageous insight founded upon a valid HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. This applies to the past of an individual's life as well as to the history of a nation or a group."
The No. Node in the 3rd* Scorpio giving reason why Venus need to get a check on a rock solid reality* which is the kind based on what is seen as of the utmost essentiality of our common history,,,, precious common interest [Liberty...Freedom.... the Golden Rule... peacefully in common society that works harmoniously for the betterment of all.that is shown by the 3* of Scorpio for the position of the True No. Node.*[ibid.]
{the following is wrong, as it will occur at 2* Scorpio}
3* SCORPIO: "A HOUSE-RAISING PARTY IN A SMALL VILLAGE ENLISTS THE NEIGHBORS' COOPERATION.
KEYNOTE: The feeling of community demonstrated in a basic joint effort.
In rural neighborhoods, especially as the American West was being developed, the building of at least the framework of a house was often a collective, friendly enterprise. Newcomers building their home-to-be found friendly helpers in their neighbors. The sense of togetherness and participation in a common enterprise was developed by such collective work. The home remains 'our' home, yet the whole community is involved in its erection and the welcome marking its completion.
At this third stage of the five-fold sequence, feeling becomes activity. The past and its memories are re-polarized in terms of the expanded social consciousness. From that activity a new sense of reality will derive. The Keyword is COOPERATION."
Yeah, group huddle... block party, peace ins.... love festivals.... freedom rallies.... Liberty affirmations.... Music Concerts..... Be Ins.... group asanas exercises.... group reiki....mass collective reiki....thundering throng reiki.... sea of humanity reiki.... picnics....parades.....games ..... dance and song***everything that liberty produced and where our individualities shine as they have the liberty to do so.
Venus completes its' 'Final Return' on it's trip back forward on March 4th [March forth Christian Love Emissaries] 2014
So Venus will have to look back in the traditions and all the assorted values and what we regard as sacred knowledge and paring it down to what it finds of beauty and admiration, note it and preserve it and let the rest go like so much chaff in the wind. Find the truly, Heart centered, core values.
Weed out the false but also get rid of all the redundancies of Truth... reason enough being that, 'When Truth can be so simply said to be, "About Liberty"...cause we all know that "The Truth Will Set You Free", then lets just all agree on that Love and Truth is all we need.If It is understood and acknowledged among ourselves that we honor and mutually bow to in respect to the Light of one another and would not knowingly do anything that would be disrespectful or harmful to another Being... then, truly, what more do you need?
Truly... LESS is MORE of what you really need.
But, a society that starts generating a multitude of itemized Liberties that are categorically defined is no longer any kind of, what can be defined as, a society of Liberty and Freedom.
It's simple.
Pull your own weight ["You got to get behind the mule in the morning...you got to get behind the mule and plow."]
Don't harm anyone else or steal from anyone, have a good time and enjoy your stay.
So... Venus on the 31st of January, this coming 2014, will be at the point where now it is ready to attune to the precept of seeing that 'signature of love' in every instance, seeing how it all holds together, what underlying law, "Cosmic Precept" is always having it's way while everything else just works away in it's favor is symbolized by the Moons No. Node at the time @ apprx 29* Libra 12' [ Those 'Three Mounds on the Philosophers Head', symbol.. so it was all about gaining more wisdom, full wisdom of a subject and this time the subject was love, what is of true rock solid value in our humansociety/culture and using that to help us see what the underlying message of love is in our work and dharma, our individual destinies and most importantly our collective one [those of us that believe in a predestiny given us for our spiritual growth and evolution.
...more, to soon follow...
attacheded: Three event charts for Venus rx Dec, '2013 to March, 2014.
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