Donald Trump will be impeached.

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david starling

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piercethevale said:
Shucks, David, back home, down South [of the Grapevine] we all say Gov'mint.. as in dadburn, gawddern, gov'mint, ya' all.
...and we say 'Merrika, just like it sposed to be pernownced. and it's NUKE-lar... sheesh, you Northeners... you spend too much time in skool as it is... git yerself a real edukashun growing up in the woods or on a farm, boy howdy...yesirre buddy.
Toodle loo, ya' all.
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Caulifornian is the reel U.S. English!
 
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Dirius

Dirius

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piercethevale said:
Take away our guns...? Like I said, you don't know us Yanks very well, do you?
Even if we were to become a Communist nation, I guarantee you, we'll still have our guns. Most gun owners have at least one unregistered gun, some have many...automatic weapons, even rocket launchers... I used to know a fellow that had a large cache of automatic weapons buried somewhere in the Mojave Desert... and I'm talking about Browning Automatic Rifles [B.A.R.s] Thompson sub-machine guns, "Burp" guns, etc., in other words, military and military grade firearms and hardware. He had enough to arm a platoon.

That was just one guy that lived in Los Angeles...now imagine how many other guys that live in L.A. likely have similar caches...then think about the entire State of California...a "liberal State", and then consider what might be buried, hidden away, in caches of arms in States like, Idaho...the number one State of citizens that believe in Sovereign Citizenry and Sovereign States. Then think about Wyoming, Colorado, Utah [those Mormons are a cautious and paranoid lot...remember David Koresh and the Branch Davidians? ...probably not... they likely don't allow that kind of news in your media since you people are so govenment [sic] controlled ... "whipped" sounds more like it...
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Thats nice, but its a story, not an actual reliable account on the internet.

piercethevale said:
As for needling you about your spelling errors... well, you're not a fellow Yank... your criticizing the U.S.A., you have implied that we are a bunch of wimps by saying that anyone will succeed in taking our guns or even f**king with our Second Amendment rights to own one... and as you have no knowledge of what a State Militia is really or that Obama effectively eliminated them by his executive order that all such entities and the National Guard be henceforth under the command of the Pentagon... and then tried to pull that "Operation Gun Runner" b.s. ...part of that false flag campaign backed, initiated, by ar** holes like Saros and his ilk.
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I never said they will succeed. I said that if you choose socialism, you will end up loosing your guns to the goverment, either before or after. Its a natural process of accepting goverment control over your life in exchange for leftovers. I might have grammar mistakes, but you clearly lack reading comprehension.

Personally I think americans will probably never choose socialism, they understand they don't need goverment taking care of them (at least the large majority of them). Electing Trump was a good step in avoiding a socialist takeover.

You can indulge in your pride all you want, but truth is you've never really lived in a socialist country, and yet you are defending a system that will drive your society to the ground. You don't wanna believe me its fine. I have nothing but respect and admiration for american society, and I wished my country would have followed the same path. But remember Rome collapsed from the inside, and no nation can survive that, and if you let your pride blind you under the pretext that "it will never happen in my country", or if you simply accept the stupidity of socialism, you are gonna end up like many of us did.

Also "wimps" wouldn't be the word I would use, because you are certainly not afraid to fight for your rights. I would say "gullible" is a better term, because you believe no one could ever possibly take them.

piercethevale said:
I simply can't resist any opportunity to mock and belittle you, to be absolutely honest.
But hey, I'm expecting a great sum of $$$ soon, [it's long overdue and it will be paid eventually...even if I should die ten years from now and it's not paid...it will go to my heirs, when it is paid] and I'm thinking of buying an obscene amount of property in Argentina... maybe Chile...but Argentina is top of my list right now... maybe you can hook me up with ...uh...on better thought. I'll just wait until all that happens.
I'll invite you over for some, archery practice...yeah, that's the ticket... then
we can crack the seal on a bottle of good Yankee Whiskey, Bourbon, of course...and talk of Cabbages and Kings, or Dictators, and Buffalo Wings...
How does that sound to you?

Give me your number, or address, and I'll drop ya a line... give ya a ring a ding ding...
Till then, Cheers...!:biggrin:

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More than happy to, although I must advise you that investing in property in Argentina will be a waste of your money. I suggest Brazil as a better option because property values will probably rise in the next 3 years, particularly in southern Brazil.

Otherwise you would be throwing money away. Lets hope for the sake of your heirs, that you don't go with your instincts, and instead invest in something worthwhile for them. I can help don't worry, not everyone understands finance, thats fine :kissing:

Problem in my country is we had a civil war in the 70's between communist guerrillas and the argentinian army (the latter backed by most of society, which was conservative), which anihilated the entire communist armed threat (about 27 thousand combatants were killed or executed). The next generation of communists, which took the political road (becoming "social democrats") instead of the armed road, pretty much played the victim card for the next 30 years ... and we let it roll just for the sake of peace and stability, but slowly took over goverment appealing to the younger generation who had not witnessed the terrorist attacks perpetrated by communists during the 70s.
 
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Dirius

Dirius

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passiflora said:
I can understand your frustration Dirius but the age in which capitalism was possible, is past. Corporatism is what remains after marketing (manipulative psychology of creating desire) and corruption.
Has the capitalism you imagine ever succeeded at scale?
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Ok I'm going to pick a few examples in the not so distant past:

The Republic of Ireland who in the 90's reformed its economic system by lowering taxes, and reducing goverment spending:
https://tradingeconomics.com/ireland/gdp
Ireland gdp/gdp per capita

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Then there is India who also in the 90's liberated the economy into a more free market oriented society:
https://tradingeconomics.com/india/gdp

India gdp/gdp per capita:

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I can go on with examples.


I can start naming other countries from various regions if you prefer, that have become wealthier and reduced poverty
 
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david starling

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"Socialism" means the Government owns and operates the manufacture and distribution of goods. It doesn't refer to a Capitalist economy with a strong social safety-net.

We have "socialized" (not "socialist") municipal water departments, fire departments, postal services, schools, wilderness areas, roads, beaches, transportation, etc. Seems to work best that way, by experience. It's not because of an academic theory of some sort.
 
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piercethevale

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david starling said:
Looks like the actual impeachment vote will happen next week. Dems appear to have the required number of votes needed.
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I pointed out in a recent post here that Mars will conjunct His Part of Separation from Job [or Employment, or whatever it is called...the one that affected Hilary when She resigned as Senator to take the secretary of state position in Obama's cabinet.] on the 16th of December... but that's the exact conjunction. It will conjunct that Part the day before and remain till sometime on the 17th.
What does that mean? Likely it should be interpreted as there will be an action, coming from someone, some people, some organization, whatever... to separate Him from his current position of employment.

That, however, is only an active influence giving impetus and doesn't mean that it will succeed. Like I wrote, there aren't any astrological influences now or from now until next November that indicate He will be removed from office.... but don't get me wrong...please... I'm no fan of the man or his politics, yet I'm relieved that Hilary never got the opportunity to get the position.
She shouldn't have even gotten the Democratic nomination. That b.s. the organizing committee pulled at the convention barring Bernie's delegates from re-entering the pavilion, not to mention their attempt at fooling the general public by hiring "sit-ins" to fill their seats so as to look as if they were still at and involved in the selection process... that I know dang well she didn't win the California primary... I've written a number of times what I knew and witnessed that night... our local NBC news affiliate posting results five minutes before the State Registrars office was announcing the same figures... IT WAS ALL FAKED, IT WAS SCRIPTED, THE NEWS STATION POSTED RESULTS AT 10:03 THAT EVENING THAT THE STATE REGISTRAR DIDN'T POST THEMSELVES UNTIL 10:08 ...AND WE ALL KNOW HOW AN 8 CAN APPEAR TO BE A 3, DON'T WE?
BERNIE WAS PREDICTED TO WIN CALIFORNIA. HIS SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS HERE BROUGHT IN OVERFLOW OF CAPACITY CROWDS WHILE HILARY WAS UNABLE TO FILL HIGH SCHOOL GYMNASIUMS. tHE ONE RALLY IN WHICH PEOPLE IN FAIRLY LARGE NUMBERS DID SHOW UP...WHICH HiLARY NAIVELY TOO TO BE SUPPORTING FANS...IT WAS IN A, PREDOMINANTLY, MEXICAN/AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND THEY ALL SHOWED UP TO BOO HER.
i STILL DON'T KNOW OF A SINGLE SOUL THAT SAYS THEY VOTED FOR HILARY IN THAT PRIMARY ELECTION...AND i KNOW PEOPLE FROM ALL ECONOMIC LEVELS, ALL ETHNIC VARIETIES, ALL RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS, AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON DO I KNOW VOTED FOR HER IN 2016.

IT'S ALL RIGGED... AND THUS IT IS EASILY CONCLUDED THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU VOTE FOR...IT'S WHO "THEY" WANT IN THE OFFICE.

LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE... BUNCHAFUGGINBULLSHEEET.
 
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david starling

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Now, the vote on actual, historical Impeachment is NEXT week.

The Senate will vote on conviction just around the time of the Saturn/Pluto conjunction early next year. The Conj is exact on January 12th, with Mercury and the Sun within less than 1 degree Orb. A real Wang Dang Doodle in tropical Capricorn!
 
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david starling

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Final vote on Trumpolluter's Impeachment is scheduled for next Wednesday. Cowardly Republicans will vote in unison with the psychophant Trumpublicans, along with a few frightened Democrats.
The vote will be close, but the OP's prediction will come true!
 
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david starling

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Moondancing said:
"Democrats have embraced the methods and devices of the country they claim to hate above all others - Russia."
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Impeachment is a provision of the United States Constitution, which the President must swear to uphold. It gives Congress the ability to hold the immense power of the Presidency in check, thereby preventing any President from becoming a dictator.
In Russia, which has no equivalent to this Congressional ability, political opponents of the ruling party are routinely locked up and prevented from interfering with the dictatorship.
It's the Republicans who used to hate Russia, btw, not the Democrats. I've never heard of Democrats claiming to hate Russia. Any source for the quote?
 
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Moondancing

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david starling said:
Impeachment is a provision of the United States Constitution, which the President must swear to uphold. It gives Congress the ability to hold the immense power of the Presidency in check, thereby preventing any President from becoming a dictator.
In Russia, which has no equivalent to this Congressional ability, political opponents of the ruling party are routinely locked up and prevented from interfering with the dictatorship.
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When Ambassador Sondland testified that no one ever told him anything about a quid pro quo, it should have ended the trial. Instead Schiff said Sondland's testimony confirmed the high crimes and misdemeanors of the president.

Stalin's Soviet deputy premier assured him...

"Show me the man and I'll find you the crime."

david starling said:
It's the Republicans who used to hate Russia, btw, not the Democrats. I've never heard of Democrats claiming to hate Russia. Any source for the quote?
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When Hillary lost the election and her loss was blamed on the Russians and Trump's collusion was started, thousands of hours have been devoted to Russian threat to our country.
 
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