List of Erroneous, Illogical and Fictitious Systems in Astrology

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david starling

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petosiris said:
It is based on fiction, and offers nothing useful. On the contrary, it brainwashes the mind in readiness for the coming of the Antichrist.
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Try explaining the astrological connection to the rise of the use of explosives, the capitalistic economic system, the industrial revolution, electronic technology, corporations, world wide communications, Modern science, et al, without accepting the concept of Ages. Also, try explaining the astrological connection regarding the separation between Traditional and Modern astrology in the 18th Century A.D. without the Ages factor.
 
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petosiris

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david starling said:
Try explaining the astrological connection to the rise of the use of explosives, the capitalistic economic system, the industrial revolution, electronic technology, corporations, world wide communications, Modern science, et al, without accepting the concept of Ages.
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Ok, let me explain astrology once more.

The planets do not emanate and form embryos, fetuses, humans, metals and machines, they only change the degree of particular temperaments, like say personality and intelligence, or the weather. Natural astrology deals with universals.

Therefore, even though Western Europe might have had eclipses and syzygies predominated by Jupiter and Venus that would cause favourable, healthy and windy air, or predominated by Mercury for social and scientific changes, it is much more likely that the progress of humanity is mostly due to natural selection and the course of history, rather than any particular astrological factor, even though the individual life and the collective may be dependent upon them. Then such sublunar particulars quickly spread out to other countries, one would be ridiculous to think that all countries have this indicated to them by some particular astrological factor one by one.

Also, try explaining the astrological connection regarding the separation between Traditional and Modern astrology in the 18th Century A.D. without the Ages factor.
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There is no traditional or modern astrology. You might notice that the OP contains abundance of both. There is astrology and there is something that only looks like astrology.
 
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david starling

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petosiris said:
Ok, let me explain astrology once more.

The planets do not emanate and form embryos, fetuses, humans, metals and machines, they only change the degree of particular temperaments, like say personality and intelligence, or the weather. Natural astrology deals with universals.

Therefore, even though Western Europe might have had eclipses and syzygies predominated by Jupiter and Venus that would cause favourable, healthy and windy air, or predominated by Mercury for social and scientific changes, it is much more likely that the progress of humanity is mostly due to natural selection and the course of history, rather than any particular astrological factor, even though the individual life and the collective may be dependent upon them. Then such sublunar particulars quickly spread out to other countries, one would be ridiculous to think that all countries have this indicated to them by some particular astrological factor one by one.



There is no traditional or modern astrology. You might notice that the OP contains abundance of both. There is astrology and there is something that only looks like astrology.
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Modern astrology is based on Traditional, but introduces non-Traditional Planets and practices. So, the OP is a materialistically inclined Modern astrologer. Nothing wrong with that. :biggrin:
And, just ignore the overwhelming empirical evidence for astrological Ages if they make you uncomfortable.
 
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petosiris

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Most events draw upon causes from the unvarying and certain science, though this can ''cause much difficulty for those who believe that in such cases everything can be understood, even things not wholly within its jurisdiction, from the motion of the heavenly bodies alone'' (Ptolemy). Some things are not within the jurisdiction of astronomy, like capitalism. The astrologer of course should take it into consideration, along with other wholly sublunar causes, but at this point he is complementing his astrological prognostication with philosophy, which is the most complex and difficult task, since these causes are not present in the heavens, though they may cooperate with the ambient.
 
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david starling

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Capitalism and the obsession with incredibly accurate time-keeping are the culminating result of the tropical Age of Capricorn. Same with all the other Modern-day technology. "natural selection and the course of history" as the cause is simply nonsensical .
 
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petosiris

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david starling said:
Capitalism and the obsession with incredibly accurate time-keeping are the culminating result of the tropical Age of Capricorn. Same with all the other Modern-day technology. "natural selection and the course of history" as the cause is simply nonsensical .
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There are so many assumptions in your theory, that I don't know where to start, the tropical age or the Capricorn part. :andy:
 
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david starling

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petosiris said:
Astrological jerking is not impressive.

Work a theory -> make a prediction -> prediction comes true -> profit

Is there a way to even test your theory right here and right now?
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The Ages develop slowly. Plenty of evidence from the past to show the Age patterns have merit. And, to prove astrology has objective merit.
 
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david starling

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The 3rd Quadrant of tropical Ages shows consistent, empirical, historical results around 6,000 years ago. Any farther back is mere speculation. The 4th Quadrant began showing results around 1,600 years ago, and is now in the final stage of the Age of the 10th Sign, under Saturnian influence.
 
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