How do ascendant signs relate?

Hello everybody. Hopefully it's ok to ask a question here.

I recently got a natal chart report done, for myself and girlfriend, and am interested in how our ascendant signs relate.

My ascendant is Scorpio, and hers is Virgo (Mercury in Pisces). If I'm not mistaken, they are in sextile aspect to each other. I'm not sure if that even matters, so I'm hoping someone can clarify this for me.

Also, my sun sign is Sagittarius and hers is Aries. That may help to give a more complete picture.

Thanks.

Sabby said:

Hello everybody. Hopefully it's ok to ask a question here.

I recently got a natal chart report done, for myself and girlfriend, and am interested in how our ascendant signs relate.

My ascendant is Scorpio, and hers is Virgo (Mercury in Pisces). If I'm not mistaken, they are in sextile aspect to each other. I'm not sure if that even matters, so I'm hoping someone can clarify this for me.

Also, my sun sign is Sagittarius and hers is Aries. That may help to give a more complete picture.

Thanks.

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Here's a link for you to a really useful website that clarifies aspects and much more
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectsinastrology.html

That's actually the site that I got my natal report from. Cool site.

Ok, one more question. I did a compatibility report as well, and one negative aspect was that my Neptune was placed square to her Venus. Is this a very important factor?

Both of our Venus' are placed in the same sign as our sun signs (Sagittarius, and Aries). It seems like that is more important for a good romantic chemistry. How does that compare to the negatively placed Neptune - Venus square?

Sabby said:

Ok, one more question. I did a compatibility report as well, and one negative aspect was that my Neptune was placed square to her Venus. Is this a very important factor?

Both of our Venus' are placed in the same sign as our sun signs (Sagittarius, and Aries). It seems like that is more important for a good romantic chemistry. How does that compare to the negatively placed Neptune - Venus square?

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very important, synastry is a complex business.

To start with it's best to look at the individual needs of each persons chart and how they relate and what they are looking for. Astro.com does have an option composite + natal midpoint method (2) which I find helpful. If you choose to post the synastry bi wheel from astro could you please select the 2nd synastry option as it will put the houses and degrees onto the wheel which is far better for us to evaluate matters....
If you post the synastry chart and realise it doesn’t show the degrees (which we need to look at) you can find the degrees and other information in a separate PDF on the synastry page of astro.com. Look for the link "View the additional tables (PDF)" and click on it to see the additional information. Reading a synastry chart is mainly about reading the aspects between the planets in the two charts. So once you find the PDF, scroll down to the bottom of the page and look in the synastry grid that is there. Unfortunately, you can only see/read these and not save/upload. That’s why I like to see both natal’s and composite. This grid (in my opinion) has too many minor aspects and the orbs are quite wide. I like to use + - max 3’

When looking at a woman’s chart the type of man she would look for is her sun sign and mars traits, plus 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.
When looking at a mans chart for the type of woman he would look for is his venus and moon sign and then 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.

Although synastry is a valuable tool with astrology it cannot 'make things happen' even if you have the best synastry in the world unfortunately.

In synastry I use tight orbs and view aspects between one person's outer planets to the other person's inner planets as being "karmic connections"......usually with the outer planet person doing the teaching and the inner planet person doing the learning.

If you want to research more into synastry try here
http://cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/interchartaspects.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry-houses.html
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastryaspects.html
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/astrology-marriage.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17513
http://www.astrotheme.com/synastry_advice.php
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/synastry/ascendant.html


relationship sticky
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28945
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=254409&postcount=9

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On the contrary, the link that JUPITERASC posted has everything to do with how ascendant signs interact (Here's a link for you to a really useful website that clarifies aspects and much more
http://www.cafeastrology.com/article...astrology.html )

First look at the rulers of the rising signs in this case Mars and Mercury. If they are in trine or sextile aspect, this is a very good indication. If a square aspect, there will be much conflict, and if an opposition, forget it. Out of sign aspects do not count. The closer the aspect the more certain the judgement. There are many other considerations, but this is where you begin.

Sabby said:

That's actually the site that I got my natal report from. Cool site.

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good, glad you are already familiar with http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html ! Here's another useful link http://www.skyviewzone.com/lovematch/sunsynastryaspects.htm

Culpeper said:

First look at the rulers of the rising signs in this case Mars and Mercury. If they are in trine or sextile aspect, this is a very good indication. If a square aspect, there will be much conflict, and if an opposition, forget it. Out of sign aspects do not count. The closer the aspect the more certain the judgement. There are many other considerations, but this is where you begin.

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This is good advice, thank you Culpeper

Alright. Here's the chart, as requested.

http://up.ht/qAQu4Y

And additional information.

http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cd0afileL...aron_sabo_valentina_mizushima.69746.30329.pdf

Thanks for the replies so far.

Sabby said:

Ok, one more question. I did a compatibility report as well, and one negative aspect was that my Neptune was placed square to her Venus. Is this a very important factor?

Both of our Venus' are placed in the same sign as our sun signs (Sagittarius, and Aries). It seems like that is more important for a good romantic chemistry. How does that compare to the negatively placed Neptune - Venus square?

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Any aspects from outer planets to inner planets should be carefully assessed. They are uncontrolable forces and energy impacting you personally in totally unavoidable ways.

In this case, Neptune can bring illusions and delusions (I know such a typical statement, lol) in all manner of ways. For instance, this can point to infidelity or a person that may keep financial issues from you. It can also be someone that seems to be everything you ever wanted, only to find out, that what you thought you wanted isn't what you want at all. This is a person that could appear to be a spiritual guru who then takes you for a ride and leaves you penniless and without faith. The tricky thing about Neptune is you can never be sure what you are going to get and with the 'hard' aspects, what you get is usually something that you'd rather do without or be much better off without.

Also, may I suggest that you upload the chart rather than linking it. You are leaving open access to your Astr.com account to all of us.

Well, this placement of Neptune in aspect to her Venus does concern me quite a bit. I think I do see its influence pretty clearly in the relationship. Since the day we met, she always says how "special" I am, and other similar overstatements... haha.. I enjoy that kind of admiration, of course, but I feel unsettled about it. I'm pretty sure my "specialness" is something illusory, and worry about how things will change.

I hope that the other elements of our synastry balance it out, or give it a positive meaning.

Munch said:

Also, may I suggest that you upload the chart rather than linking it. You are leaving open access to your Astr.com account to all of us.

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here's how you can do this
How to attach a chart as thumbnail
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126

It could just be how she loves as well. It's hard to say without seeing the chart. Unfortunately, I am at work and so will not download your chart from the link provided. It really works best if you upload directly to the forum.......

Alright, I'm now uploading it with this site. Thanks for baring with me, haha

No worries. I would have looked when I got home, but now I have something to do at work. I mean, besides work. lol.

Looking at it, I'd say that you are right. She is most likely not seeing you for who you are very clearly. At the same time, her Mercury conjunct her Venus also makes her very vocal about her affections. In Aries, the impulse to utter sweet nothings may be hard to restrain.

Your composite chart looks extremely rough. The composite moon falls on her Mercury/Sun Midpoint making this an especially emotionally fulfilling experience for her. Furthermore, you occupy her fourth house making you feel very familiar and 'homey' to her.

What's more is that her Saturn is on the Composite Sun and her Mars is on the composite NN. She is dedicated to taking this relationship on.

You however, only occupy the 2nd house (which is kind of a hard place to occupy alone in a relationship). This means that it will likely fall to you to handle finances and set the 'rules' of engagment. You have no personal contacts to the composite and as a Super Sagittarian, I highly doubt that this relationship is going to be one that you are able to stick with. Your need to run out and explore the world and not get tied down until you find that absolute right person will have you out the door before too long.

So we see the Neptunian influence is supported by the personal involvement in this relationship. She's all in and you aren't so much.

Thank you for looking at it. I appreciate it.

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Sabby said:

Well, this placement of Neptune in aspect to her Venus does concern me quite a bit.

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Ignore it.

What you should be concerned about is the fact that her Moon in Gemini squares your Sun and your Moon in Capricorn squares her Aries Sun. That will create constant conflicts in your relationship. She has a Gemini Moon in the 10th square her Retrograde Mercury in Detriment in Pisces in the 7th House so she is naturally argumentative (and quite emotional over superficial things).

Sabby said:

I think I do see its influence pretty clearly in the relationship. Since the day we met, she always says how "special" I am, and other similar overstatements... haha.. I enjoy that kind of admiration, of course, but I feel unsettled about it. I'm pretty sure my "specialness" is something illusory, and worry about how things will change.

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That's actually your Ascendant Ruler Jupiter in Aquarius inconjunct her Ascendant Ruler Mars in Pisces.

I can see why there is some initial attraction, as you both have Venus in Fire (in trine). Take it for what it is, friendship, sex-on-a-regular-basis or whatever, but don't get hung up.

Isn't my ascendants (Scorpio) ruler Pluto? and her ascendants (Virgo) Mercury?