caesarian births

david starling

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I did a chart for someone convinced that her birthchart is insufficient because it was premature due to caesarian intervention. She had a premonition as to when her natural birth would have been, so I did that one as well. Her Rising and Midheaven from her first chart fits her extremely well, so I kept that for her second one. She believes they both work, but that the second one is how she really is and the "official" one is superficial. The idea intrigues me--has anyone else dealt with this issue?
 

urano

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The question of premature births and the accurate time of birth is relevant. Unfortunately I have no idea on this :sad:

Concerning premonitions people could have sometimes, "yes and no" from my part...
Actually, I think we can’t often count on it.

Concerning to be born by caesarian section I read on Wikipedia that this is not a new thing but something used for a long time in the past.
I am no specialist about this question. Was this person placed into an incubator or not?
 

david starling

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No incubator. I have to add that with Libra rising, that could explain why she relates so well to her Sun-sign being progressed from solid Virgo to Virgo/Libra. However, I believe she has significant psychic ability, and that it was a true premonition. I can definitely entertain the possibility that we're intended to be a certain way naturally, and First-breath may not be the last word on a Natal chart. Wreaks havoc on chart rectification though lol--or does it?
 
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Kali

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The thought has crossed my mind, too, but honestly, I think that when we agree to this particular incarnation, we know the relevant birth data, including the caesarean. And this isn't a new issue, women have been taking birthing herbs for a very, very long time, speeding things up. You said yourself that the rising/mid heaven from the first chart fits her very well. You might not want to say this to her--she's a client--but it sounds like wishful thinking on her part.
 

emily23

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A "premonition " when actual birth would occur is nonsense....you can expect a date a natural birth mght occur,but that is not always right...doctors and scientists have still to figure out when birth is actually expected....no one can predict a natural birth to a time let alone a premonition...as for caesarians..they ARE an actual birth time...don't like them personally but hey our little rugrats result, who am I to complain...life is life...just take the birth time

Ps I had my daughters birth all planned, she was going to be a Capricorn (not that I planned the star sign lol just a water birth) things went wrong, she was born late and Aquarius, fantastic too!! tAke ownership and pride into whatever sign you're born into
 
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