leomoon
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Upon reading this article by Italian Astrologer Margherita Fiorello, , I'd like to solicit some help as practical examples in trying out this method. Has anyone tried it and become successful in repeating the table as an exercise?
https://heavenastrolabe.wordpress.c...-almutens-and-more-in-a-renaissance-geniture/
To be specific, I would need someone to take me step by step in a practical way i.e. "counterclockwise counting from the ASC?" to begin to understand better, about the planets and their allotment in a life. I say this because I am a rather "slower" learner, being a Capricorn Sun-Mer-Mars- stellium ...once learned, I'll take off with it.
He has a diurnal chart, born 3 hours past noon 10min. LMT (see modern chart)
The mathematics of the timing is:
Sun- 1 year 7 months i.e. 19months
Saturn 2.5 years i.e. 30 months
Jupiter - 1 year or 12 months
Venus - 8 months
Mercury- 20 months i.e. 1 year 8 months
Mars - 15 months or 1 yr. 3 mos.
Moon- 25 months or 2 years 1 mo.
https://heavenastrolabe.wordpress.c...-almutens-and-more-in-a-renaissance-geniture/
To be specific, I would need someone to take me step by step in a practical way i.e. "counterclockwise counting from the ASC?" to begin to understand better, about the planets and their allotment in a life. I say this because I am a rather "slower" learner, being a Capricorn Sun-Mer-Mars- stellium ...once learned, I'll take off with it.
A very interesting point is the calculation of chronocrators. The unknown astrologer does not use in fact the well known firdaria, but the variant mentioned by Firmicus Maternus in the second book chapter 27:
We shall briefly show how much life span is allotted. The Sun receives 19 months, the Moon 25 months, Saturn 30 months, Jupiter 12 months, Mars 15 months, Venus 8 months, Mercury 20 months.
What this distribution of time means we shall show in the books on forecasting by the stars, also what one star portends when it takes over time from another. All things, good or bad, which happen to us, we connect with this calculation of time. The end of life will be found in this way and the character of the entire nativity, and everything which the order of the planets portends.
We find the year with a very easy calculation; for it always begins from the ascendant, and the first year will be the one in which the ascendant is located, the second in the second sign, the third in the third, and thus for the others in order. Some obtain this same result in a diurnal chart from the Sun, at night from the Moon. And this is also possible. (( Julius Firmicus Maternus, Ancient Astrology: Theory and Practice = Matheseos Libri VIII (Park Ridge N.J.: Noyes Press, 1975). ))
FIRMICUS MATERNUS
What this distribution of time means we shall show in the books on forecasting by the stars, also what one star portends when it takes over time from another. All things, good or bad, which happen to us, we connect with this calculation of time. The end of life will be found in this way and the character of the entire nativity, and everything which the order of the planets portends.
We find the year with a very easy calculation; for it always begins from the ascendant, and the first year will be the one in which the ascendant is located, the second in the second sign, the third in the third, and thus for the others in order. Some obtain this same result in a diurnal chart from the Sun, at night from the Moon. And this is also possible. (( Julius Firmicus Maternus, Ancient Astrology: Theory and Practice = Matheseos Libri VIII (Park Ridge N.J.: Noyes Press, 1975). ))
FIRMICUS MATERNUS
She then posted a modern chart - for this man who lived to age 61:As we see months length is the same of the lesser years of the planets we saw above. The order is from the Sun in the day or the Moon in the night- planets as usually follow their hairesis and then per ordinem immediate positi in schemate natalicio, ie following the planetary order of the chart
He has a diurnal chart, born 3 hours past noon 10min. LMT (see modern chart)
The mathematics of the timing is:
Sun- 1 year 7 months i.e. 19months
Saturn 2.5 years i.e. 30 months
Jupiter - 1 year or 12 months
Venus - 8 months
Mercury- 20 months i.e. 1 year 8 months
Mars - 15 months or 1 yr. 3 mos.
Moon- 25 months or 2 years 1 mo.
Thanks in advance for any who wish to help me understand better and walk me through it: * I tried twice but didn't get 61 years, so I must be doing something incorrectly.This is a diurnal chart so we should start from the Sun which takes 19 months, ie 1 year and 7 months.