SATURN is SOLE DOMICILE RULER of AQUARIUS

JUPITERASC

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Saturn rules Aquarius, it is the sole domicile ruler in traditional astrology.
In traditional astrology, you do have other rulers of the sign -
the triplicity rulers, bound rulers and decan rulers.

Triplicity rulers of Aquarius are Saturn, Mercury and Jupiter.

Bound rulers depend upon the degree placement, you need the egyptian bounds table
to determine based on the degree.
Decan or Face rulers are based on three division of the sign.

 The domicile ruler is the most important, +5 score.

Next comes the exaltation ruler, +4 score. Aquarius don't have exaltation ruler.
Next is triplicity rulers (+3).
I think the original post is concerned only with domicile ruler. So, yes Saturn is the sole domicile ruler.
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socrates

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JUPITERASC said:
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SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity or seriousness.


If Saturn is dignified and well placed, they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.
Such a person is not to be lightly dismissed

Lilly describes Saturnine types as profound in imagination, severe in acts,
in labour patient, in arguing or disputing grave
in obtaining the goods of this life studious and solicitous.
Their sense of humour is dry and earthy
based on observing the reality of life :smile:
They seldom throw caution to the wind
and are always aware of a sense of responsibility to themselves and others.
They do not display their emotions easily
but their emotions, like their imaginations, can be profound.
Such individuals are observably deep, sincere
and generally gather respect.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/astrology_saturn.html



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they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.»

on the contrary Itend to regret not thinking before speaking and am prone to gaffes
 

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JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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socrates said:
they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.»

 on the contrary
I tend to regret not thinking before speaking

and am prone to gaffes
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SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity
or
seriousness.

IF SATURN IS DIGNIFIED
and
WELLPLACED :smile:
THEN they are inclined to think before they speak :smile:







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socrates

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JUPITERASC said:
SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity
or
seriousness.

IF SATURN IS DIGNIFIED
and
WELLPLACED :smile:
THEN they are inclined to think before they speak :smile:







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As i said mine is dignified and Im not at all careful when I speak
 
JUPITERASC

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socrates said:
socrates said:
they are inclined to think before they speak
and as a consequence their words carry weight.»

 on the contrary
I tend to regret not thinking before speaking

and am prone to gaffes
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SATURN sole domicile ruler of AQUARIUS depicts
someone who is characterised by austerity
or
seriousness.

IF SATURN IS DIGNIFIED
and
WELLPLACED :smile:
THEN they are inclined to think before they speak :smile:

socrates said:
As i said mine is dignified and Im not at all careful when I speak
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Must be wellplaced AS WELL AS dignified :smile:



its in the 9th a good house conjunct ASC ruler and in sect
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JUPITERASC said:
9th is not angular :smile:
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9th is a CADENT house
 The houses are not all equal in strength and power.

If a planet is located in an angular house, it is much more forceful in its effects
than it would be in a cadent house.


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socrates said:
by angle do you mean 10th house or MC as well?
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The ANGLES are the ascendant, descendant, midheaven and Imum Coeli

aka '...lower midheaven...'

These mark the cusps of the 1st, 7th, 10th and 4th houses
are also referred to as '...cardinal points...'
Planets close to angles are very prominent in their effects :smile:







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socrates

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JUPITERASC said:
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The ANGLES are the ascendant, descendant, midheaven and Imum Coeli

aka '...lower midheaven...'

These mark the cusps of the 1st, 7th, 10th and 4th houses
are also referred to as '...cardinal points...'
Planets close to angles are very prominent in their effects :smile:







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but which angles? 10th house or the house where MC is?
 
socrates

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socrates said:
Chris,what if the MC is in 9th house?
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You mean the 9th house becomes the 10th so to speak? I hope you understand my question
Noon or MC is often in 9th sign
Ex asc cancer 10th sign aries but MC in pisces
Is aries or pisces the MC angle? Do you use quadrant or whole sign house?
 
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JUPITERASC

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socrates said:
You mean the 9th house becomes the 10th so to speak? I hope you understand my question
Noon or MC is often in 9th sign
Ex asc cancer 10th sign aries but MC in pisces
 Is aries or pisces the MC angle? Do you use quadrant or whole sign house?
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There are multiple opinions on this issue :smile:

Many use Whole Sign Houses to determine TOPICS
then use any quadrant system to assess planetary strength


THE FOLLOWING WHEEL ILLUSTRATES TOPICS


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WHOLE SIGN HOUSES clearly determines TOPICS
ELIMINATING AMBIGUITY OF HOUSE LOCATION of PLANET :smile:
AND THEN
any quadrant house system
such as Placidus, Alcabitius et al
assists with determining PLANETARY STRENGTH

tsmalls comment
explains the rationale
I use both whole signs and Placidus.
The original idea of quadrant based house systems
was to determine angularity,
and never to replace the concept of topics.
So
I count signs for topics
and use a house system overlaid onto it.
Because, as I mentioned above, capability
and angularity/ability to act
are two different things.....
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tsmall uses BOTH whole signs AND Placidus
I use BOTH whole signs AND Alcabitius
some use whole sign AND Regiomontanus
there are multiple QUADRANT house systems
 its a matter of personal choice which to use
in tandem with WHOLE SIGN
IF one chooses to do so
Yes, the dominant house system in Greco-Roman astrology
(until about the time of the end of the Classical Period) was whole sign,
but (among the famous very early Arabic astrologers of the transitional period)
only Abu'Mashar continued the ancient Greco-Roman practice,
and the whole sign house format became virtually forgotten (in the West)
until the mid-1990's.

Personally I think it was an historical tragedy for our astrological art
that whole sign houses became lost to memory,
for my experience
over the past nearly 20 years of exclusively using whole sign houses
has convinced me
of the more consistent accuracy of this house system, over any other...
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Ancient meanings of the houses elegantly combined
fundamental astrological concepts :smile:
such as the distinction between day and night
the benefic/malefic nature of the planets
the symbolism of diurnal motion
the rulerships and exaltations in the Thema Mundi
the Joys
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socrates

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JUPITERASC said:
There are multiple opinions on this issue :smile:

Many use Whole Sign Houses to determine TOPICS
then use any quadrant system to assess planetary strength


THE FOLLOWING WHEEL ILLUSTRATES TOPICS


astrological-houses-02.jpg



WHOLE SIGN HOUSES clearly determines TOPICS
ELIMINATING AMBIGUITY OF HOUSE LOCATION of PLANET :smile:
AND THEN
any quadrant house system
such as Placidus, Alcabitius et al
assists with determining PLANETARY STRENGTH

tsmalls comment
explains the rationale

tsmall uses BOTH whole signs AND Placidus
I use BOTH whole signs AND Alcabitius
some use whole sign AND Regiomontanus
there are multiple QUADRANT house systems
 its a matter of personal choice which to use
in tandem with WHOLE SIGN
IF one chooses to do so

Ancient meanings of the houses elegantly combined
fundamental astrological concepts :smile:
such as the distinction between day and night
the benefic/malefic nature of the planets
the symbolism of diurnal motion
the rulerships and exaltations in the Thema Mundi
the Joys
1g58irx2ocw11.png


PlanetaryJoys.jpg
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Well if you look at the chart of Paul Bowles he had the Asc ruler mercury and sun in 8th sign but mercury was in 9rh by quadrant.And hes known for his travels and writing. So its a hard choice
 
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dr. farr

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In using whole sign accurately it is imperative to take the totality of indications into account in making a delineation; single factors taken out of the context of the totality will often be misleading.
 
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