Mathematics 1.618 & Sacred Geometry

JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Hi JupiterAsc, While you are checking out "The Vedas", there are other things to check. I really am opposed to religious god like status being given to nuclear bombs by metaphor, symbolism is very dangerous in this field of study!

"If the radiance of a thousand Suns
Were to burst at once into the sky,
That would be like the splendor of the Mighty One...
I am become Death,
The shatterer of Worlds. The Bhagavad-Gita"
Some may say, it was only a test! Why name it "Trinity?"

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Trinity.html Another test was called "The Smiling Buddha"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiling_Buddha

When this type of symbolism is used in tests, you are likely to see the same type of symbolism when they are used for real, which isn't the role of religion.

The 6th August 1945 is highly suspect, it is the feast day of the transfiguration of Christ, when he turned into a blinding white light,... after a CLOUD appeared..."This is my Son whome i love etc etc."

Truman had a "Little Boy" too! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy
http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/transfiguration-of-jesus-christ-faq.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfiguration_of_Jesus
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Why indeed deliberately use religious symbolism to name weapons of mass destruction?

And then there were the 'Sandstone' nuclear tests in 1948 :smile:

Nuclear weapons were developed during World War II by the Manhattan Project, which created a network of production facilities, and the weapons research and design laboratory at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. The objectives of the Sandstone series of tests were to:

test nuclear cores and initiators;
improve the theory and knowledge of implosion type weapons;
test levitated cores;
test composite cores; and
determine the most economic designs in terms of efficient use of fissionable material.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sandstone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrAqIlDWpaA&feature=relmfu Operation Sandstone - United States Nuclear Weapons Tests in 1948

Trinity Shot - 1945 United States Atomic Weapons Test (Silent Film)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY-h-y_RL3o&feature=relmfu
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Monk said:
Hi JupiterAsc, While you are checking out "The Vedas", there are other things to check.

I really am opposed to religious god like status being given to nuclear bombs by metaphor, symbolism is very dangerous in this field of study!

"If the radiance of a thousand Suns
Were to burst at once into the sky,
That would be like the splendor of the Mighty One...
I am become Death,
The shatterer of Worlds.

The Bhagavad-Gita"
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Interesting that J Robert Openheimer is recorded quoting "Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds"

He then draws attention to "the multi armed form" of Vishnu... but Vishnu is the 'Maintainer'... The destroyer is Siva. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixb7MdeR8yU&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8w3Y-dskeg :smile:
 
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Monk

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Hi JupiterAsc,

You gave a link that matters to me, stop link on pause at four seconds, i want you to look at the first atomic bomb!

Does it look like an artificial brain? Like a brain put into Frankenstein by Mary Shelley?

Being an astrologer, don't think symbolism is wrong, we are connected to the arts, paintings, sculptor, actors and symbolism, great factors in the chronology of history....Monks are good at that...what sort of Monk am i???

Your video...pause it at 4 seconds to view esoteric view of first bomb!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8w3Y-dskeg

Well i'm fascinated by the arts symbolism by humans...like Dracula by Bram Stoker:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracula

Based on Vlad the Impaler?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler

Imagination comes from real evil people in history, like forensic profiling (Silence of the Lambs), the author isn't evil, but may be strange!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein

In modern history of films, very few have made such a splash in films more than H.R.Giger, love his dark art, i am fascinated....wouldn't have it in my house!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._Giger

My favourite director is Ridley Scott...it would be...i look at dark history like Alien and Gladiator!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Scott

So who is my favourite sleazy private eye?...it relates to topic ha ha, JupiterAsc!

Clue is 1940's.....massive Hollywood star!

I'm a simple monk, i will chronicle history, however my archytype is sleazy, l look to the dark in history, but only because i'm fascinated, i may get it wrong, but i do have a Pluto M.C. with Scorpio rising....sleazy private eye Ha Ha!
 
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JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Monk said:
Hi JupiterAsc, You gave a link that matters to me, stop link on pause at four seconds, i want you to look at the first atomic bomb! Does it look like an artificial brain? Like a brain put into Frankenstein by Mary Shelley? Being an astrologer, don't think symbolism is wrong, we are connected to the arts, paintings, sculptor, actors and symbolism, great factors in the chronology of history....Monks are good at that...what sort of Monk am i??? Your video...pause it at 4 seconds to view esoteric view of first bomb!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8w3Y-dskeg
Well i'm fascinated by the arts symbolism by humans...like Dracula by Bram Stoker:-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracula Based on Vlad the Impaler?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler

Imagination comes from real evil people in history, like forensic profiling (Silence of the Lambs), the author isn't evil, but may be strange!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein

In modern history of films, very few have made such a splash in films more than H.R.Giger, love his dark art, i am fascinated....wouldn't wan't it in my house!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._Giger

My favourite director is Ridley Scott...it would be...i look at dark history like Alien and Gladiator!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Scott

So who is my favourite sleazy private eye...it relates to topic ha ha, JupiterAsc!

Clue is 1940's.....massive Hollywood star!

I'm a simple monk, i will chronicle history, however my archytype is sleazy, l look to the dark in history, but only because i'm fascinated, i may get it wrong, but i do have a Pluto M.C. with Scorpio rising....sleazy private eye Ha Ha!
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Glad you found the link useful Monk - I paused it at 4 seconds and then paused it every second from then on and it is very interesting... when viewed that way it does resemble a kind of image of a brain (all the wires) but also, I continued viewing one second at a time and - in fact before the bomb cloud "mushrooms" as if one is using the Rorschach inkblot test aka the Rorschach technique - there are many interesting images as the "cloud" slowly morphs and develops. Most intriguing


I also found a clip from "Dark Exposures"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aPnZuJ9YgA
typical sleazy story concerns "down-on-his-luck private dick Tom Bennet" you might enjoy the scene: then I searched for a big star from the 1940's who played sleazy detectives and thought - Casablanca? Humphrey Bogart?:smile:
 
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Monk

Monk

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Hi JupiterAsc,

Yes, my favourite sleazy private eye is Humphrey Bogart, but not in Casablanca, but in the Maltese Falcon, where he played "Sam Spade".

No doubt Truman liked it, as i will explain later!

The symbolism of Little Boy and Fatman, being the bombs dropped on Japan may be multilayered, the official history being they were named after politicians Franklin Roosevelt and Churchill, i can't believe that, democratic leaders like schools and streets named after them, not atomic bombs that killed so many people!

http://atomicbombmuseum.org/2_firstbombs.shtml
 
Monk

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There are other interpretations, the film "The Maltese Falcon" is based on the jewel incrusted falcons that the Knights Templar gave as gifts to Holy Roman Emperor Charles V for use of Malta, please scroll down link below till you see the image of a book that has a yellow background, being a book by D. Hammett, and read around that point.

http://travellinghistorian.com/malta.html

Robert Serber gives other reasons for the Bomb Fatman below that involved the Maltese Falcon:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Serber


You will note that Franklin Roosevelt was the 32nd President, he was also a 32 degree mason, Truman was the 33rd President and a 33 degree mason, both were Honorary Grand Masters of the Order of DeMolay

The reference for the name is below:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_de_Molay

Reference to Truman and Roosevelt below:-

http://www.pagrandlodge.org/mlam/presidents/froosevelt.html

http://www.pagrandlodge.org/mlam/presidents/truman.html

Truman would like the "Maltese Falcon" wouldn't he?

Will continue tomorrow.
 
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JUPITERASC

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Monk, while reading the traveling historian link, I noticed a small picture entitled "Symbol of Rhodes on Road Grate" (photo by G. Wilson)

The symbol has the word 'demotikos' written above a stag and below the stag is the word 'photismos'.... presumably "enlighten the common people".

The pattern on the grate is interesting also as I have seen it (or a similar mark) carved into ancient Roman stonework – the guide told us the mark is the signature of the stonemason. I remember seeing this mark which resembles a large M with lines from it. Different symbols denoted individual stonemason schools :smile:

stag
The stag has a variety of symbolic meanings. It can indicate someone skillful in music and a lover of harmony. It may also indicate a person who foresees opportunities well. In the latter case it is a symbol used for one who is unwilling to assail enemies rashly, who would rather stand his own ground than harm another wrongfully, and one who will not fight unless provoked. Harmony, polity and peace are particularly associated with the female deer, called a hind or a doe.

Antlers represent strength and fortitude. The stag or hart is also an emblem of purity and fleetness. The stag was associated with healing, for he knew which medicinal plants to take in order to shake off the hunter's arrow. The person bearing this symbol was considered impervious to weapons. Other names for a deer include a brocket, which is a young stag, a buck, roe, roebuck, and a fawn. online Symbolism search: Copyright © 2000 - 2011 Swyrich Corporation, all rights reserved
 
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Monk

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Very good research JupiterAsc,

Sometimes when i have a lot to say, i don't give the right type of merit, please understand!

Lets go back to Franklin D. Roosevelt masonic link:-

http://www.pagrandlodge.org/mlam/presidents/froosevelt.html

He was initiated into masonry on 11th October 1911 by Holland Lodge No. 8, New York City! It left a puzzle for me, for in that location it seems that only a new boy, he was given huge rites of passage, for this is a special day for New York, as the Sun sets on 11th October 1911, Sirius is on the Nadir!

This was a Wednesday, and we know masonic meetings happen after sunset, thus ancient Greek day marker applies to actual day! It is as if they thought he was special, and was grooming him for high office, even when he had just started in freemasonry.....why would they think that???

Graph below on attachment....perhaps they looked at his birth chart? We will investigate on next thread section!
 

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Franklin D. Roosevelt was born in Hyde Park in the State of New York, look to top right and link will give coordinates:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park,_New_York

As far as i can investigate he was born at 08:45pm/20:45pm on January 30th 1882, link below:-

http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/Z6MrfjGGE94b.htm

I have added only 32 seconds to time to bring it into the 4 minute orb of Alnilam culminating, thus my time is 20:45:32pm!!! Graph on attachment!

They may have looked at ancient Greek Day Marker, being sunset on 29th January 1882 at location, this happened at 17:06:59pm, and we find that as the Sun sets, Sirius was rising! Graph on attachment.

It seems if you have the right alignments at birth and join the masons you could end up achieving high office!

However i'm not saying that Roosevelt wasn't a good President!
 

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Interesting pictures ArchAngle 42,

Truman was made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General 33 degree on 19th October 1945 in the House of the Temple in Washington DC, link below:-

http://www.pagrandlodge.org/mlam/presidents/truman.html

Midnight day marker used at location, where Sirius was rising along horizon at midnight, graph on attachment.
 

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In looking at the symbolism of the bombs that were dropped on Japan, i do feel that the names have multi-layered meaning, part being the film "The Maltese Falcon."

Lots of religions have trinity's father, son and holy spirit, or osiris, isis and horus, and you will note that Horus has a falcon head and also was god of war!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus

Some say that religion has common origins

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Critics-Catholicism-3337/2008/9/Radha-Rani-Virgin-Mary.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero_With_a_Thousand_Faces

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_in_comparative_mythology

Before the bombs were dropped the most powerful religion in Japan was the Shinto Religion, since 1945 Buddhism has grown into a powerful position.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinto

I wish not to offend, but Buddha can be shown as a "Fatman"

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080120135557AA3K0MU

I do feel there was religious symbolism with "Little Boy and Fatman".

America was very angry about Japan attacking Pearl Harbour on a Sunday, while most were in Church!
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Monk said:
Franklin D. Roosevelt was born in Hyde Park in the State of New York, look to top right and link will give coordinates:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park,_New_York

As far as i can investigate he was born at 08:45pm/20:45pm on January 30th 1882, link below:-
http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/Z6MrfjGGE94b.htm

I have added only 32 seconds to time to bring it into the 4 minute orb of Alnilam culminating, thus my time is 20:45:32pm!!! Graph on attachment! They may have looked at ancient Greek Day Marker, being sunset on 29th January 1882 at location, this happened at 17:06:59pm, and we find that as the Sun sets, Sirius was rising! Graph on attachment.

It seems if you have the right alignments at birth and join the masons you could end up achieving high office! However i'm not saying that Roosevelt wasn't a good President!
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So it would seem Monk! :smile:
Monk said:
In looking at the symbolism of the bombs that were dropped on Japan, i do feel that the names have multi-layered meaning, part being the film "The Maltese Falcon." Lots of religions have trinity's father, son and holy spirit, or osiris, isis and horus, and you will note that Horus has a falcon head and also was god of war! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus Some say that religion has common origins

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Critics-Catholicism-3337/2008/9/Radha-Rani-Virgin-Mary.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero_With_a_Thousand_Faces
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_in_comparative_mythology

Before the bombs were dropped the most powerful religion in Japan was the Shinto Religion, since 1945 Buddhism has grown into a powerful position. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinto

I wish not to offend, but Buddha can be shown as a "Fatman"
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080120135557AA3K0MU

I do feel there was religious symbolism with "Little Boy and Fatman".
America was very angry about Japan attacking Pearl Harbour on a Sunday, while most were in Church!
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Now that you mention the religious context in relation to Buddha, the symbolism seems rather obvious, particularly when one considers the Rhadarani-Virgin Mary link and a certain stable with a manger :smile:

 
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Monk

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Hi JupiterAsc,

Now you need to have a crazy zany sense of humour, if you don't get one, it could drive you crazy, my Monty Python sense of humour is the only thing that keeps me "From being a sandwich short of a Picnic or Flaky"!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python

Lets start slowly on this next section:-

Hitler committed suicide because the best he could hope for was being hung by a military court!!!

Although Emperor Hirohito wasn't in complete control of military operations, he was valued as a "god" by the japanese population, like Egyptian Pharaohs!

All military operations by Japanese, i can show were all aligned to Sirius and Alnilam, from way back in time, since the Meiji Constitution!

I can't see much that Emperor Hirohito did to stop the slaughter of W.W.2......he never was convicted of any war crimes, indeed he was invited to the United States in 1975, and went to Disneyland in California, to have a photo with Mickey Mouse!

Hell it's a shame that Hitler committed suicide, ha ha, no doubt England would have invited him to a funfair full of children in 1975...please note zany humour!

Photo with Mickey Mouse can be seen below by scrolling down link:-

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fl20050807x1.html

Is it any wonder i have a strange sense of humour???
 
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JUPITERASC

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Monk said:
Hi JupiterAsc, Now you need to have a crazy zany sense of humour, if you don't get one, it could drive you crazy, my Monty Python sense of humour is the only thing that keeps me "From being a sandwich short of a Picnic or Flaky"!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python

Lets start slowly on this next section:- Hitler committed suicide because the best he could hope for was being hung by a military court!!!

Although Emperor Hirohito wasn't in complete control of military operations, he was valued as a "god" by the japanese population, like Egyptian Pharaohs!

All military operations by Japanese, i can show were all aligned to Sirius and Alnilam, from way back in time, since the Meiji Constitution!

I can't see much that Emperor Hirohito did to stop the slaughter of W.W.2......he never was convicted of any war crimes, indeed he was invited to the United States in 1975, and went to Disneyland in California, to have a photo with Mickey Mouse!

Hell it's a shame that Hitler committed suicide, ha ha, no doubt England would have invited him to a funfair full of children in 1975...please note zany humour!

Photo with Mickey Mouse can be seen below by scrolling down link:-
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fl20050807x1.html Is it any wonder i have a strange sense of humour???
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Humour is relative my friend :smile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdJpDxlI8H0&feature=fvst
 
Monk

Monk

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Hi JupiterAsc,

I'm hardly started on this thread, there will be a lot of times that humour will be needed to stop many members going crazy....loved the link, it made me giggle!

I not concerned with what the allies wanted to do with evil nations at the end of W.W.2. exactly, my prime concern is KEEPING RELIGION AWAY FROM WAR! They should have no connection!

That is is very worrying, for it extends into our era and watch!

The Potsdam Conference happened after the defeat of NAZI Germany, but before the end of war in the Pacific region! It was this conference that determined the fate of Japan, please note the term Suicide Bomber is centered during this debate, it was becoming very difficult to defeat Japan without huge losses to the Americans!

The Potsdam Conference started on July 17th 1945 and ended just before Nuclear Bombs were dropped on Japan on 2nd August 1945....my problem is a strange religion was involved!

Location is below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecilienhof

To verify date, i can't do better than show link below, it started on 17th July 1945 in Potsdam, Germany!

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/decade17.asp

On this date in Potsdam, Germany being the start of the Potsdam Conference, 17th July 1945 WE HAVE TWO ALIGNMENTS AT MIDNIGHT AND AT SUNRISE TO ALNILAM

Graph on attachment, i'm only just warming up, lots to come!
 

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