U.S.A. Current Events and Natal Charts

leomoon

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Prior Post - Suez Canal Ship "stuck" update: - is not going anywhere now. May be "stuck" for 2 more weeks!


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/suez-c...be-weeks-to-dislodge-ever-given-cargo-vessel/


Photo on link: https://www.thedailybeast.com/giant-ship-stuck-in-suez-canal-likely-to-be-there-for-weeks



A massive container ship, nearly the size of the Empire State Building, is likely to be stuck in the Suez Canal for weeks, blocking one of the world’s most important shipping routes. Officials say they have nine tugs trying to unlodge the ship, which became stuck in a diagonal position due to high winds and a dust storm on Tuesday morning. A bulldozer is also aiding the effort but its comparably tiny size has spawned a fountain of memes online


Over 100 Ships Backed Up as Vessel Stuck in Suez Canal Sideways
Yesterday, I noted Over 100 Ships Backed Up as Vessel Stuck in Suez Canal Sideways
The prognosis has gotten worse.



https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/...-canal-is-harder-to-move-than-a-beached-whale
 
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leomoon

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The "stuck ship" in the Suez Canal is causing an uproar even in Egypt - where we might expect it to be all the talk of the day along with Covid19.
Here is the overview from above video of the ship showing us "HOW" it got stuck!

The event chart posted above, gives Venus the 1st house along with the Sun- and Venus was used by William Lilly for ships in his astrology.
3rd House planets also are seen here - Can you see the "delay" and importance in this chart of this event to the world?


I'd say its Saturn in the 11th house of the "masses" being opposed by the Moon in the 5th house.



https://egyptianchronicles.blogspot...Feed:+EgyptianChronicles+(Egyptian+chronicles)


The Egyptian people really don't want the UK and Boris Johnson to help out, because of the "colonialism" past still doesn't sit well with them.



In the first Western reaction "I was going to say EU reaction", the spokesperson of UK PM Boris Johnson was quoted in the media on Thursday saying that the British government was ready to help in freeing the ships and it is already in contact with relevant authorities but nobody has asked their help yet.
I know the importance of the Suez canal to world powers economically but this is so colonial and won't echo well in Egypt but luckily the local media did not even cover it.
For the third day in a row, Ever Given container ship is still blocking the Suez canal’s narrowest point and the Suez Canal Authority “SCA” brought more tug boats including larger ones with teams coming from Netherland and Japan to help in re-floating the ship.



According to SCA, 9 tugboats, 2 drudgers and 4 bulldozers are participating in the rescue works of the ship.
SCA announced on Thursday that it aimed to remove 20 meters of sand to reach 12-16 depth level to refloat the Ever Given through removing the sand around its bow.
Apparently, it is a Japan container ship with much of the world coming to it's rescue - There are currently estimate to be about 150 ships now backlogged waiting for this ship's release to get through the canal.


There are ports of entry (in the US & elsewhere) having no deliveries which were scheduled because of this event, so it's huge to the economical markets.


A photo is on the link above - showing the line-up of ships behind a boy on the river banks in the sand.


Monetary Losses will be HUGE:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...-dent-world-trade/ar-BB1f0hcC?ocid=uxbndlbing



Cargo will be late; the impact will ripple out to the rest of the world. Demand for ships will rise.” Shipping is resilient, he said, but added: “You miss your slot at a port, you can’t offload your cargo – your grain, iron ore, any matter of goods or commodities … some are time critical and could perish and effect whole supply chains. And some carry vital medical equipment – there will be disruption in the mid-term.
 
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leomoon

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Reading this the other day, and having no one to share it with even though I thought it quite interesting to share. So here it is:


(...We may possibly use this thesis to see if the charts posted thus far meet the criteria? Not all have been decided of course, i.e. court cases, etc - but we might want to come back to the thesis, so I'll leave it here to ponder:




This is an Astrologer from Europe (I think Spain) where the President of the country (they also have a King in Spain) - had been involved in a scandal which she reports, the people eventually supported him and he wasn't impeached. Much like Trump I thought! Certainly not all the people, but enough to let him off the hook. Same with the President she speaks of -

https://internationsocietyofclassicalastrologers.wordpress.com/2021/03/26/back-to-the-past/


(extracted from blog)



[FONT=&quot] "Much is supposed, but nothing is known for certain of the planets and their intrinsic nature.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I have more and more the impression that the planets are not concerned with events on earth, but with their interplanetary relationships.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I have raised the hypothesis that the chaotic or harmonic events that we experience have to do with the way the planets treat each other.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Evil derives from the evil form as one planet deals with the other in a specific quadrature, and this is reflected in the life on earth, in a specular way, as in the entire universe.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]For example, if Mars attacks Jupiter, without mutual reception and especially being in a higher position, that is, considering the primary movement, events will happen according to the nature of both, but the massacre will be especially bloody for everything that represents justice.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If things go the other way, and Jupiter is in a position above Mars, the result would be the victory over criminals, crushed by justice.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]By this I mean that a square, just to name a kind of aspect, has a different meaning if one planet has a superior position to the other. This explains the fact that there are squares that come to good and others that come to evil.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Even the trigons, an aspect of friendship, in a case where a malefic makes aspect, can have a paltry result if the malefic is in a superior position.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I will provide an example of this – something that in my country, when our president, visibly suspected of criminality, was released by the court to follow his mandate, instead of suffering an impeachment.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Let me explain: Jupiter in Libra occupied in the 7th house, Libra when the Sun entered in Cancer and Saturn, the ruler of the MC was cadent and in retrogradation, occupying the 9th house.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jupiter was then in an inferior position to Saturn and was direct, whereas Saturn also approached to Jupiter, for being retrograde. Faced with this relationship between the two, one planet in the sign of the other, Jupiter for regency and Saturn for exaltation, I predicted at the beginning of the third quarter of the year that the president would be supported.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In fact, he, Saturn, ruler of Midheaven, constrained the law, Jupiter, which weighed against him, and Jupiter obtained favours and facilities, in the generous manner of the sign of Sagittarius, which Jupiter rules.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Had the position of the planets been changed the result would be different.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]But the result suffered in the country was neither bad nor good from a universal point of view.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In this way, duality, in my humble opinion, is only one facet of ONE and the same thing, that "thing" that the human mind does not reach and which in its smallness calls good or evil."
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[FONT=&quot]Clelia Romano, September 2017[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Feel free to comment how you might interpret what she is saying![/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]It seems there is a LOT of corruption going on in Spain:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-08-04/spain-former-king-juan-carlos-leaving-country-financial-scandal[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The King of Spain (ex) Juan Carlos seems to have settled a debt he owed:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-02-26/spains-former-king-pays-4-million-euros-in-back-taxes-amid-scandals[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]But she did say President not King.
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[FONT=&quot]But if t his is an Italian Blog, then I'll need to start over with the examination of Heads of State :(
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[FONT=&quot]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/19/socialist-ex-presidents-of-andalucia-guilty-in-680m-case[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]https://www.wionews.com/sports/ex-barcelona-president-josep-bartomeu-arrested-over-barcagate-scandal-against-lionel-messi-co-367176[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero is Spain’s current President of the Government. President Zapatero won an unexpected victory that some have partly credited to the atrocities of 11 March 2004[/FONT]
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david starling

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Suez Canal - over 1400 ft ship (size of the Empire State Building), blocked and stuck this morning in the Suez Canal -



The event took place at 7:40 A.M. with Aries ASC - square Pluto .
ASC ruler is Mars square Mercury

Moon opposite Saturn


Ship can be seen here: A container ship -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f3DVjLIIeA


PLEASE CLICK TO ENLARGE:
https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/...-canal-is-harder-to-move-than-a-beached-whale




Here's my take, which is unfortunately mine alone, since I had to discover the Tropical Age Indicator myself:

Just Mars square Mercury isn't enough to explain why it's impacting the World so strongly.

But, thanks to leomoon's posted event-Chart, we can see that the Ascendant in Aries is close-square Pluto Conjunct the tropical Age Indicator in Capricorn. That's what makes it a World-impacting event, instead of just a local one. And Pluto is only too happy to mess things up for the materialistic enterprises of the Earth-sign Age of Capricorn, now nearing its conclusion.

Also, it was a windstorm, apropos Gemini, which I connect to the wind, blowing sand and making visual navigation practically impossible, that caused a water-channel accident, with Mercury in the Water-sign Pisces, ruled by Neptune, the king of the oceans.

So, Mars in Gem attacked Mercury, the planet of merchants, using the wind. And, it was triggered by the Ascendant in Aries square Pluto in Cap.

And, of course, the Ascendant has to do with vision, since it's the point of Sunrise on the Eastern horizon. And, it was square-blocked vision that resulted in the accident.
 
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leomoon

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Monetary losses are approximately $400 million per hour according to an expert in the Merchant Marines I saw on TV speaking about the ship. He doesn't think the President of Egypt Sisi - is speaking with knowledge when Sisi exclaimed the ship will be on it's way (i.e. freed) in approximately 2-3 days. This expert says it will be much longer because of the depth of the channel its stuck in tantamount to being sitting on land now.





The consumers will feel the pinch of higher prices, because all the losses inherent in shipping will be passed onto the consumers he said.



Venus would be the ruler of shipping and ships (Wm.Lilly) - and in the 12th house is in harm's way - and in the sign of Venus "Detriment" Venus also rules the 2nd house of assets/money for countries.


Gas prices and prices of all shipped goods (household to clothes) will be affected by this global event. :crying:
 

leomoon

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NOTICE:



I will be amending the Suez Canal chart. It wasn't mine, and once again, I should know better then to count on others for correct chart which I do too often!:crying:


The chart says "Panama Canal" and the co-ordinates are of course for South America and not Egypt as well as the time corrections, etc. Saturn (for example), is not int he 11th now, it's in the 10th house !
It is still opposite the MOON The time is correct at 7:40 A.M. That's about all the person did correctly on the chart. :(


I'll post the NEW correct chart here
, and try to correct it on that page as well.


Sorry for the inconvenience, but the NEW IMPROVED and CORRECT chart will also have applicable Arabic Lots stated on it for our study.

Check out the T-Square of Point of Trade with Pt. of Riches along with Uranus the unexpected accident.




:sideways:
 
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leomoon

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Monetary losses are approximately $400 million per hour according to an expert in the Merchant Marines I saw on TV speaking about the ship. He doesn't think the President of Egypt Sisi - is speaking with knowledge when Sisi exclaimed the ship will be on it's way (i.e. freed) in approximately 2-3 days. This expert says it will be much longer because of the depth of the channel its stuck in tantamount to being sitting on land now.





The consumers will feel the pinch of higher prices, because all the losses inherent in shipping will be passed onto the consumers he said.



Venus would be the ruler of shipping and ships (Wm.Lilly) - and in the 12th house is in harm's way - and in the sign of Venus is in Detriment



Gas prices and prices of all shipped goods (household to clothes) will be affected by this global event. :crying:
 

leomoon

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Monetary losses are approximately $400 million per hour according to an expert in the Merchant Marines I saw on TV speaking about the ship. He doesn't think the President of Egypt Sisi - is speaking with knowledge when Sisi exclaimed the ship will be on it's way (i.e. freed) in approximately 2-3 days. This expert says it will be much longer because of the depth of the channel its stuck in tantamount to being sitting on land now.





The consumers will feel the pinch of higher prices, because all the losses inherent in shipping will be passed onto the consumers he said.



Venus would be the ruler of shipping and ships (Wm.Lilly) - and in the 12th house is in harm's way - and in the sign of Venus is in Detriment



This new chart gives us the "Hour of the Moon" for the event, and "Planetary Day of Mercury"



Gas prices and prices of all shipped goods (household to clothes) will be affected by this global event. :crying:
 

david starling

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NOTICE:



I will be amending the Suez Canal chart. It wasn't mine, and once again, I should know better then to count on others for correct chart which I do too often!:crying:


The chart says "Panama Canal" and the co-ordinates are of course for South America and not Egypt as well as the time corrections, etc. Saturn (for example), is not int he 11th now, it's in the 10th house !
It is still opposite the MOON The time is correct at 7:40 A.M. That's about all the person did correctly on the chart. :(


I'll post the NEW correct chart here
, and try to correct it on that page as well.


Sorry for the inconvenience, but the NEW IMPROVED and CORRECT chart will also have applicable Arabic Lots stated on it for our study.

Check out the T-Square of Point of Trade with Pt. of Riches along with Uranus the unexpected accident.




:sideways:


The ship blocking the Suez Canal, the Evergreen, is Panamanian.

So, Panama had a baaad accident which is affecting the World.

Hope Panama has a good accident insurance policy for the Evergreen!
 
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david starling

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NOTICE:



I will be amending the Suez Canal chart. It wasn't mine, and once again, I should know better then to count on others for correct chart which I do too often!:crying:


The chart says "Panama Canal" and the co-ordinates are of course for South America and not Egypt as well as the time corrections, etc. Saturn (for example), is not int he 11th now, it's in the 10th house !
It is still opposite the MOON The time is correct at 7:40 A.M. That's about all the person did correctly on the chart. :(


I'll post the NEW correct chart here
, and try to correct it on that page as well.


Sorry for the inconvenience, but the NEW IMPROVED and CORRECT chart will also have applicable Arabic Lots stated on it for our study.

Check out the T-Square of Point of Trade with Pt. of Riches along with Uranus the unexpected accident.




:sideways:


The Suez Chart has Pluto right on the M.C. and Uran right on the Ascendant.
The Pluto/M.C. conjunction is also conjunct the tropical Age Indicator, meaning an important World event. Sounds like Panama's professional reputation is going to suffer, and possibly its national debt also.

Still has Mars in Gemini square Mercury in Pisces.

The Roman "god of accidents", Saturn, is square the Ascendant/Uran conjunction.

Saturn is square Uran in the Panama Chart as well.
 
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leomoon

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I'll apply my original Chart analysis with Panama as the subject, rather than the location of its ship. Panama has suffered a disaster.


I can't find any reference to Panama owning that ship: :unsure:

The ship is owned by the Evergreen Marine Corp, a Taiwanese container transportation and shipping company that owns 39 shipping vessels. Of its large fleet of ships, 20 are named in the format of "Ever" + [a word that begins with a G].
The Ship Blocking the Suez Canal Is Called the 'Ever Given'


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www.insider.com/ship-blocking-suez-canal-called-the-ever-given-not-evergreen


What is the Evergreen Shipping Line?

Evergreen Marine's operations primarily center around five general routings: The shipping line's busiest routings are in the first category, East Asia to North America and Central America. Within this area, common traffic is between China, Japan, Korea, and Taiwan with the U.S. West Coast, along with routings to the East Caribbean via Panama.
Evergreen Marine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_Marine
 

leomoon

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The only reference to Panama is that their ships once in a while follow a route through there (see prior post too)


The are East Asian owned ships. Panama is in South America


What is the Evergreen Shipping Line?

Evergreen Marine's operations primarily center around five general routings: The shipping line's busiest routings are in the first category, East Asia to North America and Central America. Within this area, common traffic is between China, Japan, Korea, and Taiwan with the U.S. West Coast, along with routings to the East Caribbean via Panama.
Evergreen Marine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_Marine



Panama Canal - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal

The Panama Canal (Spanish: Canal de Panamá) is an artificial 82 km (51 mi) waterway in Panama that connects the Atlantic Ocean with the Pacific Ocean.




David: Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying? :unsure: HOW has Panama suffered a disaster?? This ship's waterway is adjacent to the Mediterranean Sea.


Ref:

I'll apply my original Chart analysis with Panama as the subject, rather than the location of its ship. Panama has suffered a disaster.
 
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leomoon

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SUEZ CANAL SHIP STUCK DAY 6-7





Monetary cost estimated to be about $400 Million per hour and it's now been Day 6 - These costs will be seen and paid by the consumers of all kinds of products. From appliances from China and East Asia - to clothes, shoes/dresses/suits, furniture - you name it all kinds of household goods and everyday things we use such as computers, computer and car parts, on and on. Gasoline may be affected too IF they use the pipelines adjacent to the canal which they have not done as of yet. They said its very expensive to do so. :andy:


THEY MAY BE STARTING TO TAKE THE 1800 OR MORE CONTAINERS OFF THE SHIP SOON.



This is tragic for the economy and the poor and middle classes who will have to bear this cost. in the many billions. :surprised:



The Suez Canal (Arabic: قناة السويس) is an artificial sea-level waterway in Egypt, connecting the Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea through the Isthmus of Suez and dividing Africa and Asia.


There are now over 300 ships backed up and waiting - Time costs money to the consumers



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ip-ever-given-still-stuck-passage/7037024002/

Some shipping companies are redirecting vessels all the way around Africa, thinking it will be faster than waiting what could be several more days to see the canal reopened – and then several more days for the backlog of ships to move through it.
The Ever Given, as long as a toppled skyscraper, was sailing north through the canal en route to Rotterdam, Netherlands with two canal pilots on board when it became stuck in the mud.
 

leomoon

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IF we apply the Classical Astrologer (Post 43 on Page 2 ) thesis of primary movement planet in a "higher" position, then see if it's malefic or a benefic (in this case it's SATURN (see blue Zet chart) 10 Aquarius, partile SQUARE 10 deg. ASC - and in it's own sign thus even though conjunct Jupiter in the 21st deg. of Aquarius, (sextile Part of Riches ) Saturn will supersede over Jupiter to cause monetary harm - Ruler of the 2nd is Mercury which is now in Pisces 11th of the masses and in Detriment. :tongue:

high winds in a sandstorm ultimately pushed the ship sideways. The bow is aground on the canal's eastern bank and the stern is on the western bank. The result has been a traffic jam of more than 320 ships
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leomoon

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Japanese owned, Taiwanese leased/operated, Panamanian registered, German managed, UK insured. Bleh. Definitely a matter for surer hands.


Some older woman from East India just asked on Quora, "will there be a shortage of toilet paper & coffee because of the ships?"


I really don't know. So I for one didn't answer. Hadn't thought of that before. Hmmm. Better look next time in the grocery shelves.
 

david starling

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The only reference to Panama is that their ships once in a while follow a route through there (see prior post too)


The are East Asian owned ships. Panama is in South America


What is the Evergreen Shipping Line?

Evergreen Marine's operations primarily center around five general routings: The shipping line's busiest routings are in the first category, East Asia to North America and Central America. Within this area, common traffic is between China, Japan, Korea, and Taiwan with the U.S. West Coast, along with routings to the East Caribbean via Panama.
Evergreen Marine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_Marine



Panama Canal - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal

The Panama Canal (Spanish: Canal de Panamá) is an artificial 82 km (51 mi) waterway in Panama that connects the Atlantic Ocean with the Pacific Ocean.




David: Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying? :unsure: HOW has Panama suffered a disaster?? This ship's waterway is adjacent to the Mediterranean Sea.


Ref:


The Ever Given is one of Panama's "Flagged-ships", meaning that it's registered in Panama and flies the Panamanian flag. Panama is launching its own investigation into the accident.


But, it goes beyond that as far as how Panama could be directly impacted:

https://www.internationaltradeinsig...-congestion-and-impact-usage-of-panama-canal/

Are you sure you want to completely rule out Panama as it relates to the Suez disaster?
 
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david starling

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The ship is owned by a Taiwanese company, Evergreen, which will face massive insurance claims, at a time when China is threatening to invade the small country, which could pull the U.S. into a hot war against both China and N.Korea.

Definitely something to watch! I read that China is said to be planning its move on Taiwan in early May of this year.

Meanwhile, N.Korea is launching missiles in a show of military capabilities.

Biden is in a precarious position no matter how he handles this crisis.
 
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leomoon

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The ship is owned by a Taiwanese company, Evergreen, which will face massive insurance claims, at a time when China is threatening to invade the small country. This could pull the U.S. into a hot war against both China and N.Korea.




fingers crossed, (toes too) that doesn't occur! :( ...Twitter is giving advice (mostly comedic of course) on how to free it.


The Suez Canal opened in 1869 under a Uranus-Neptune opening square. It was one of the biggest contributors to globalization because it effectively ushered in the fuel-powered era in commercial shipping; sailing ships could not reliably navigate the canal. It also ushered in crushing debt for the Ottoman Empire to European banks, ironically leading to its downfall
(Mundane Astr. Tony dickey)


REF
The Ever Given is one of Panama's "Flagged-ships", meaning that it's registered in Panama and flies the Panamanian flag. Panama is launching its own investigation into the accident.


But, it goes beyond that as far as how Panama could be directly impacted:

https://www.internationaltradeinsigh...-panama-canal/

Are you sure you want to completely rule out Panama as it relates to the Suez disaster?


Thanks for that information. Not being in the shipping business these days, tends to get you out of the loop of things. :)
 
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