U.S.A. Current Events and Natal Charts

david starling

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Any prediction about whether Vance will really go at it, or instead, throw the fight while trying to make it look real?
 

leomoon

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Any prediction about whether Vance will really go at it, or instead, throw the fight while trying to make it look real?


Going with the Astrology, from what I can tell it appears to me anyway, that the Composite chart with transits is very telling as to their meeting of the minds in some fashion.


If we look at Vesta for example,which is the Composite Vesta, we see that it will be triggered in April quite a bit. Vesta (I use for the higher laws) ....as the temple of Vesta held the State Laws for the Roman Empire and anytime one needed an important paper such as for Caesar's birth, or when Mark Antony went to war, they had to go to the Vestals in the Temple for the papers okaying them.


Now Tr Mercury in this Composite chart is reaching Vesta in the 10th house of power. It will be square Composite Venus and Trine composite Pluto-Jupiter.



Composite Moon for DJT & Cy Vance will be telling too - because Tr South Node is here, (been there/done that before indicator)



The only thing I cannot guess at via astrology now, is whether or not he (DJT) will show up in criminal court OR if the Judge will require him to.



:rightful::rightful::rightful:
 

leomoon

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INSURRECTION EVENT:



This is the Event Chart for the Breach of the Capitol Building in DC on January 6th, 2021. Its a very important historical event as you all know -

and still being investigated by the FBI and hopefully, the Justice Dept.


What do you all see in it (Astrologically speaking please!) I'll also post the 1814 chart which was the last time the Capitol was breached and burned down for comparison.





ALL planets are above the Ecliptic at this time of day and the 10th and 12th house are very active.








1814 - Prior breach of the Capitol - Burned down! Attacked from "outside" forces rather then "inside" as Jan. 6th was!

Because of the time of evening, the Capitol was burned down by the British, I'll just post the charts I can find for you. The chart I had saved for this event had Aries (fire) Rising, with the Moon in a fire sign (Sagittarius)

If the general consensus is to post it for discussion, then I will do so.


Meanwhile, the background:


vhttps://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38603/the-last-u-s-capitol-siege-was-in-1814-heres-what-happened


And Judith's chart (which gives us a different Ascendant)
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OY62jgzU...bVShee-tgCLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/BurningofDC1814.jpg

via Judith Cowell's chart and write up:
https://www.starsoverwashington.com/2021/01/dc-horoscope-burning-of-washington-dc.html


BACKGROUND NOTES:
https://history.house.gov/Historical-Highlights/1800-1850/The-burning-of-the-Capitol-in-1814/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington
 
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leomoon

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I don't ordinarily use Sabian Symbols, but thought it might be interesting considering the magnitude in importance the January 6th chart has:


https://www.astrologyweekly.com/sabiansymbols/list.php



Ascendant - 19 Taurus:
19º Taurus (49): A NEW CONTINENT RISING OUT OF THE OCEAN.

Mars: 19:55° Aries:

30º Aries (30): A DUCK POND AND ITS BROOD.

Uranus: 6 Taurus 45min. Rx

6º Taurus (36): A BRIDGE BEING BUILT ACROSS A GORGE.

Moon: 21°15' Libra

21º Libra (201): A CROWD UPON A BEACH.

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from the original (Elsie Wheeler & Marc Edmunds Jones):
https://www.jamesburgess.com/list-of-sabians.html#taurus


19 Taurus (Ascendant)
19 A newly formed continent.



Mars: 19:55Aries:
19 The magic carpet.
20
A young girl feeding birds in winter.


Moon: 21:15 Libra:
21 A crowd upon the beach.

 

waybread

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Leomoon, it's an interesting chart, with those massive Aries/Taurus: Capricorn/Aquarius squares.

The moon is below the horizon, conjunct the vertex: a point of fateful encounters.

Neptune is square to the nodal axis ("at the bendings.")

BTW, did you happen to look at declination? My guess is that there were out-of-bounds planets.
 

leomoon

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Alice Portman seems to think Astrologers are good candidates for OOB planets. She says, because Astrology is still a subject which is out of the mainstream of thought.


I checked mine, and sure enough, only my Mercury at 24 deg.21 S is OOB, I don't think Uranus counts, but its 23°02 & Pluto 23°24



IF anyone wants to check their quickly, you can do so on "additional tables" shown on the last page on Astrodienst when you erect your natal chart and are ready to post it. Its on the left hand side like this:



[pdf]

Additional tables



https://aliceportman.com/what-is-out-of-bounds/


https://www.lunarliving.org/astrolog...linations.html
 

leomoon

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MERRICK GARLAND - Attorney General of the U.S.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland



He is currently overseeing a huge caseload of the Insurrectionists. No doubt this also includes DJT's role if any in the insurrection. Aiding and Abetting an Insurrection according to Professor Lawrence Tribe is what they no doubt will be carefully weighing.


We do not have his tob, but Judith Cowell has given us some insight from her work on his natal:


a few details concerning Merrick Garland and below are a few of my notes on his misty Water-Air Sun Scorpio-Moon Libra personality blend. Even without an accurate birth time for him I can tell you that during the 24-hours of his birth day (November 13, 1952 Chicago, IL) Luna remained in Libra, sign of the Scales of Justice (00:01 to 12:21), and the Sun in Scorpio ranged from 20:48 to 21:48

She finished her outline of his chart with this interesting aside:


Also notable in the solar department is his Mars-Pluto inconjunct (ruler and co-ruler of his Sun sign, from Mars exalted in Capricorn to dramatic Leo) which can lead to a depletion of energy due to taking on too much at one time. Hopefully, he has this tendency under control by now at age 65.
Now in closing, here is one of the blend's 'Images for Integration' which seems more than a little descriptive to me:
"A criminal lawyer auditions for the lead part in a new play about heroes of the second-world-war resistance movement."
(Sun Sign-Moon Sign, Charles and Suzi Harvey.)
Does "resistance movement" remind you at all of current political, legal, and social dramas now playing out in America with AG Merrick Garland snagging "the lead part"?
https://www.starsoverwashington.com/2021/03/ag-merrick-garland-sun-scorpio-moon.html

Merrick Garland was born on my Grandmother's birthday. She was born 11/13/1900 - and was as tough as nails, but "gentle as a dove". Everyone who met her thought she was so sweet, kind and loving. WATCH out :surprised:. She was also very loving, kind and forgiving but never forgetting. Quiet, ladylike, and you'd never guess....under the exterior. She was the funniest person I knew and made me laugh everytime I was with her.



Seriously I loved the heck out of her, but she was the epitome of "Walk Softly and Carry a big stick".


He will do this too I'm sure if he is anything like she was. :andy:


His exterior demeanor is Libra like but inside he is Scorpionic through and through. Apparently Professor Tribe taught him way back when (the 60s?) in law school updates. He was an excellent student and he's very impressed by him today.


Its a shame that President OBama was not allowed by McConnell to appoint him to the Supreme Court back in 2012. It would have had more character then it does today, imo.





https://www.starsoverwashington.com/2021/03/ag-merrick-garland-sun-scorpio-moon.html


You can see why Jude C. mentioned his exalted Mars, because Tr Pluto is right over it NOW - When it was there for me, (but in my 6th), I had a knee operation, replacement surgery. But came through it better off. I wish the same for him, to have a wonderful outcome if anything comes up now for him. Its a tough transit....:surprised:


But he does have (as she aptly mentioned too,) an inconjunct with natal Mars and Pluto. This aspect also referred to as a quincunx - is very often a medical aspect.

IF he needs to go to have some medical things done during this time period, there are others in the Justice Dept. who know exactly how to carry out his orders I'm sure.



 

Cold Fusion

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Police officer among multiple people killed after gunman opens fire at Boulder, Colorado, grocery store.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/22/us/boulder-colorado-shooting/index.html

Just days ago, the NRA celebrated that a Colorado judge struck down a life-saving ban on AR-15-style assault weapons in the city of Boulder.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20210315/victory-in-colorado-preemption-case

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leomoon

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The newspeople, (ABC on the site, NBC and others) all said how frustrating it was not to know the numbers of people dead or injured so they could report properly. For some reason and no one knows why, but the Boulder police seem to be keeping their cards, close to the vest and not sharing info.


This only makes for rumors and wondering, such as "I wonder IF this and I wonder IF that"....as imaginations grow.


Hopefully we'll know tonight the number of dead. I say dead because whlie not being forthcoming, the spokesman for the police said, "we have no injuries" But "I can't tell you how many are dead just yet"....


They know there is one injury, that was the shooter himself who was led out of the supermarket in Boulder with blood running down his leg while he limped along with the police, one on each side of him. He has only short pants on, no shirt, no vest (he was reported to have had a vest on), but now it was gone. I can imagine they made him take it off because of hidden things, like a bomb etc. could have been on his person.


So in the freezing Boulder Colorado town with snow on the mountains, he walked barefoot, stumbling with a bloody leg, and no shirt on to the police van.



The word is, he was reported originally in the parking lot with a "long rifle" and may have shot dead a few people (how many?) right there in the parking lot. They haven't confirmed this however as of yet.


The Composite Chart is intriguing but sad at the same time. The latest I heard about the NRA is they may file bankruptcy, because of those at the very top of the NRA taking much of the money and donations that came in to this "non-profit" organization, and I thought they were being sued in NYC by the Manhattan SD? I'll need to see how that case is going.


But the Composite Chart: Mars cj. Pluto square to Uranus and the Nodes, couldn't be more telling of death/destruction/ by insane ? or "out of control" individuals. We REALLY need to ban the repeating rifles that are military style at the very least.


They don't belong in a normal person's arsenal of handguns or a hunter's arsenal of regular riles & shotguns. They are meant to kill many at once as in military use only.



I say, ban those at the very least! AR-47


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47
 

leomoon

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That Lawsuit concerning the NRA & Wayne LaPierre (the CEO) actually is still ongoing. I believe the NRA (actually LaPierre) is trying to have it removed away from NYC and into the hands of a more Republican friendly location he has sway over. Trump's idea was Texas, but Florida is extreme too with the Gov.

This is from July of 2020:

New York State Attorney General Letitia James filed a lawsuit seeking to dissolve the National Rifle Association, on the grounds that it's functioning as a massive grift and not, as it bills itself, a "civil rights" organization for gun owners. There's no way to know how this will play out — the NRA still wields political power, largely because it's been so useful to Republicans — but the evidence marshaled by James and independent journalists is overwhelming.As James said in her statement, the NRA "went unchecked for decades while top executives funneled millions into their own pockets," and the degree of corruption was so broad and deep that the scheme has "basically destroyed all the assets of the NRA."
https://www.alternet.org/2020/08/conservatives-should-thank-new-york-for-going-after-the-nra/


YOU CAN READ THE LAWSUIT HERE ON A PDF:
https://nrawatch.org/filing/admissions-in-ceo-wayne-lapierres-answer-to-nyag-complaint/


2021: updates - https://nrawatch.org/filings/?caseid=340

February 2021 - LaPierre finally did an "answer" to the lawsuit charges, and it doesn't sound good. He admits to a lot of what he's been accused of doing - (see link for nra posted above)



I don't know if he is still attempting to do what Trump told him to do on Twitter - i.e. "move it out of NYC if you can".

Its in Letitia James district and she is the Attorney General of NY. :biggrin:
 
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waybread

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Leomoon, thanks for posting the table of declinations for Jan. 6.

It turns out that there aren't out-of-bounds planets, but there is a big "conjunction" of parallel planets at 22 degrees south declination: sun, Mercury, Venus, and Pluto.

Mars-Uranus are parallel within a degree.

I sometimes find that planets in a wide conjunction by longitude are actually closely parallel when we look at declination.
 

leomoon

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On January 8th, 2021 a lawsuit was filed against lawyer Sydney Powell in regards to fraud committed against the Dominion company of voting machines:
https://spectrumnews1.com/ky/lexing...lion-defamation-lawsuit-against-sidney-powell






https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20445917-govuscourtsdcd22569910_2


The voting machine company says pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell has been part of a malicious campaign of lies.
https://www.cnet.com/news/dominion-voting-files-1-3b-defamation-suit-against-former-trump-lawyer/


They also announced on 2/24 they will sue Mike Lindell, an attorney from Georgia - who is more well known as the "My pillow guy"
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...tic-s-fox-news-election-suits-put-ncna1258682




On February 7th, she was named again in a 4 party Lawsuit filed by the Smartmatic Company:
Voting technology company Smartmatic files $2.7 billion lawsuit against Fox News, Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell over 'disinformation campaign'


The lawsuit, filed in New York state court, accused Fox, Giuliani, Powell and hosts Lou Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo, and Jeanine Pirro of intentionally lying about Smartmatic in an effort to mislead the public into the false belief that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from former President Donald Trump.


"They needed a villain," the lawsuit said. "They needed someone to blame. They needed someone whom they could get others to hate. A story of good versus evil, the type that would incite an angry mob, only works if the storyteller provides the audience with someone who personifies evil."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/media/smartmatic-fox-news-giuliani-powell-lawsuit/index.html





The voting technology companies Dominion and Smartmatic have both brought libel actions against former President Donald Trump's allies and attorneys, along with Fox News, for spreading harmful untruths and conspiracy theories about the companies' roles in the 2020 election. Most recently, Dominion announced Monday that it's suing Mike Lindell, CEO of MyPillow, for $1.3 billion over his baseless accusations of election fraud.


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...tic-s-fox-news-election-suits-put-ncna1258682


Lawsuit against some Fox hosts and guests:


https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Smartmatic_Complaint_Against_Fox_Corporation-WM.pdf




Makes a person wonder, how these lawsuits will pan out and what kind of a year, this "gang" for lack of a better descriptive adjective will have? :joyful:
 

david starling

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Hey, if the best defense those being sued can muster is, "Nobody in their their right mind would have believed it was true", it doesn't look good for them.
 

leomoon

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Sydney Powell (defendant in a civil lawsuit) has responded today:


3/22/21 - saying in effect, "what persons in their right mind would believe what she said anyway)



This is what her lawyers said:


Sidney Powell Argues Her Dominion Defamation Lawsuit Be Tossed Because ‘No Reasonable Person’ Would Believe Her

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes-personal-shopper/2021/03/23/best-gaming-laptops/?sh=44258e848b47




They ask for a Dismissal of charges or moving it to another State like Texas


https://assets.documentcloud.org/do...g-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion.pdf

Her natal chart here: TOB is now known, but tr Pluto is opposite her Jupiter-Uranus turning her life upside down now. (or did she do that herself?)




https://www.exopermaculture.com/202...t-sidney-powell-one-personal-the-other-legal/
 
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david starling

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Sydney Powell (defendant in a civil lawsuit) has responded today:


3/22/21 - saying in effect, "what persons in their right mind would believe what she said anyway)



This is what her lawyers said:


Sidney Powell Argues Her Dominion Defamation Lawsuit Be Tossed Because ‘No Reasonable Person’ Would Believe Her

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes-personal-shopper/2021/03/23/best-gaming-laptops/?sh=44258e848b47




They ask for a Dismissal of charges or moving it to another State like Texas


https://assets.documentcloud.org/do...g-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion.pdf


So, insulting all of the people who did believe her, (including some of our own members), is an adequate defense???

That's equivalent to saying, " Hey, I was only JOKING. Didn't you get the joke? "
 

leomoon

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Hey, if the best defense those being sued can muster is, "Nobody in their their right mind would have believed it was true", it doesn't look good for them.


That's is exactly my thought but I"m glad you typed it and not me!


I mean really, lol. THAT is her best defense?


Sounds like its going to trial ....but she feels her friends lay in a Texas Jury and not the east.



Hmm. Perhaps the judge will demand she stay put. She's lived everywhere with Durham NC the last place I could find.


Chart from the link:


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david starling

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Her "friends in Texas" are among the ones she admitted she duped. They might not take kindly to being described as having been "not in their right minds"!
 

leomoon

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Her "friends in Texas" are among the ones she admitted she duped. They might not take kindly to being described as having been "not in their right minds"!


That's doubtful imo. After all, did Trump's 70plus million adoring fans drop him when insulted about the gunshot killing someone on 5th Avenue?


That was not exactly a compliment either. She can probably play them again in Texas.



Mike Lindell, the ex con-felon - looks like he may have some worries with the Justice and courts. Vesta is tr over his n. Pluto and tr Pluto tr his Saturn. :cool:


Then there is Tr Saturn square his natal Vesta along with Tr Uranus.


 

leomoon

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