United States Chart at 2020 Election

Cary2

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The birth chart of the United States of America has been in dispute for 200 years, but I have used the popular Sagittarius Ascendant chart because of my research. Liz Greene also likes the Saj Ascendant chart, and there are other astrologer fans. I came on board on 9-11 when thousands of Americans were murdered by radical Islamists controlled by Osama Bin Laden.

Ebertin says that Saturn/Pluto contacts often refer to the death of many people. It can also suggest being cheated out of one's legitimate efforts.

Martin Seymour-Smith has said that Saturn/Pluto can indicate "criminality" and "savage puritanism" which describes radical Islam.

To find the crime situation in astrology, it is best to look to contacts of Mercury/Pluto and Saturn/Pluto. If the crimes are violent crimes, then Mars/Pluto, Mars/Uranus, and Mars/Saturn may be involved, and perhaps Mars/Moon as well. In extreme cases, however, Saturn/Pluto can indicate violence and murder.

On 9-11, transiting Pluto was on the 12-degree Sagittarius Ascendant while it opposed Saturn at 15-degree Geminii. This rather rare opposition sat upon the Ascendant/Descendant axis of the Sagittarius-Ascendant US chart example as thousands of Americans were killed with evil intent.

The exact birth time of the US birth chart is not so critical to the remainder of this report, but I have offered this explanation for the chart that I included here. I used this chart because I think it is the correct one. Some of the important points to be made do not require an accurate Ascendant, but if I include a US chart, this is the one I use.

The nation's natal chart has a Mars-Neptune square and a Mercury-Pluto opposition. These indicate serious crises for the nation at some time or another. The Mars-Neptune square refers to the nation's problem with substance abuse, and its disaster with prohibition. The Mercury-Pluto opposition shows that crime will become a serious crisis for the nation.

The transiting Saturn-Pluto conjunction slowly assembled and marched forward in the nation's chart until Jupiter joined the conjunction to create a transiting stellium. A transiting stellium is a real heavy-weight astrologically, and we can feel its power even before it aspects a factor in the nation's chart.

On Nov. 3, 2020, election day, transiting Saturn conjuncted US natal Pluto, and transiting Pluto opposed US natal Mercury even as the two transiting planets conjuncted each other. This assault on a natal opposition by a transiting conjunction is of extreme power and importance. Both Mercury/Pluto and Saturn/Pluto refer to serious crime and cheating.

In the chart of a nation (Mundane Astrology), Sun is the leader, Mars is the military forces, Saturn is the status quo and science, Moon is the public, and Mercury is the media.

Mercury oppose Pluto is criminal and dishonest actions of the media. It is the attempt of the media for a power grab. The media was focused on shaping the vote and calling the election due to illicit grab for power. It is an attempt to develop a hidden agenda politically at odds with journalistic ethics. The opposition to Saturn shows the gross mistakes and the blow to the media's prestige. The polling industry is probably destroyed.

All these connections also refer to the criminal element in our nation (Mercury/Pluto, Saturn/Pluto). The media plays into the hands of the criminals.
 

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CapAquaPis

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The birth chart of the United States of America has been in dispute for 200 years, but I have used the popular Sagittarius Ascendant chart because of my research. Liz Greene also likes the Saj Ascendant chart, and there are other astrologer fans. I came on board on 9-11 when thousands of Americans were murdered by radical Islamists controlled by Osama Bin Laden.

Ebertin says that Saturn/Pluto contacts often refer to the death of many people. It can also suggest being cheated out of one's legitimate efforts.

Martin Seymour-Smith has said that Saturn/Pluto can indicate "criminality" and "savage puritanism" which describes radical Islam.

To find the crime situation in astrology, it is best to look to contacts of Mercury/Pluto and Saturn/Pluto. If the crimes are violent crimes, then Mars/Pluto, Mars/Uranus, and Mars/Saturn may be involved, and perhaps Mars/Moon as well. In extreme cases, however, Saturn/Pluto can indicate violence and murder.

On 9-11, transiting Pluto was on the 12-degree Sagittarius Ascendant while it opposed Saturn at 15-degree Geminii. This rather rare opposition sat upon the Ascendant/Descendant axis of the Sagittarius-Ascendant US chart example as thousands of Americans were killed with evil intent.

The exact birth time of the US birth chart is not so critical to the remainder of this report, but I have offered this explanation for the chart that I included here. I used this chart because I think it is the correct one. Some of the important points to be made do not require an accurate Ascendant, but if I include a US chart, this is the one I use.

The nation's natal chart has a Mars-Neptune square and a Mercury-Pluto opposition. These indicate serious crises for the nation at some time or another. The Mars-Neptune square refers to the nation's problem with substance abuse, and its disaster with prohibition. The Mercury-Pluto opposition shows that crime will become a serious crisis for the nation.

The transiting Saturn-Pluto conjunction slowly assembled and marched forward in the nation's chart until Jupiter joined the conjunction to create a transiting stellium. A transiting stellium is a real heavy-weight astrologically, and we can feel its power even before it aspects a factor in the nation's chart.

On Nov. 3, 2020, election day, transiting Saturn conjuncted US natal Pluto, and transiting Pluto opposed US natal Mercury even as the two transiting planets conjuncted each other. This assault on a natal opposition by a transiting conjunction is of extreme power and importance. Both Mercury/Pluto and Saturn/Pluto refer to serious crime and cheating.

In the chart of a nation (Mundane Astrology), Sun is the leader, Mars is the military forces, Saturn is the status quo and science, Moon is the public, and Mercury is the media.

Mercury oppose Pluto is criminal and dishonest actions of the media. It is the attempt of the media for a power grab. The media was focused on shaping the vote and calling the election due to illicit grab for power. It is an attempt to develop a hidden agenda politically at odds with journalistic ethics. The opposition to Saturn shows the gross mistakes and the blow to the media's prestige. The polling industry is probably destroyed.

All these connections also refer to the criminal element in our nation (Mercury/Pluto, Saturn/Pluto). The media plays into the hands of the criminals.

Biden is a criminal too? Trump was a criminal according to many astrologers. Just like the 2000 Bush stole Gore's "rigged" presidential election. Clinton and Obama are quite controversial, esp Obama being half-black and Hillary was the first lady. You're saying ALL presidential elections regardless of political party and what do the American voting majority wants...is all just a con game? :-(
 

CapAquaPis

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The 1984 Reagan "49 state electoral vote victory" seems suspicious, the VP at the time was George Bush sr. known for some shady style of politics akin to the Nixon/Ford administration. Some say the last truly elected president "directly from the people" was assassinated: John F Kennedy. And the unpopularity of LBJ and later Carter, we keep having lame duck or very polarizing presidents, do the American people really have a choice of 2 political parties candidates?
 

Cary2

Banned
n.Mercury oppose t.Pluto

The Media and the Democrats promised a Blue Wave. They said they would flip the Senate. They said Biden would win by a landslide.

Not a single Senate seat that was up for re-election was lost. Republicans gained 12 seats in the House. The House has never had so much Republican representation in it since the 1950's. Trump won the biggest non-white voter share in history.

t.Saturn conj. n.Pluto
The Media polling in 2016 was the worse ever seen, but it was worse this time. Erroneous polling is election interference. The errors in polling are intentional. They are suppression polls in an effort to limit Republican's ability to raise funds.

The Quinnipiac poll showed Biden up by 5 points in Fla, but they were wrong by 8 points. They predicted Trump would lose FL by a lot, but he won by a lot

Quinnipiac had Biden up above Trump by 4 points in Ohio, but they were wrong by 12 points. Trump easily won Ohio

Quinnipiac's polls were not just wrong nationally, they were wrong in every locale across the country. If it were an "honest" mistake, it would not completely favor Joe Biden.

In South Carolina, Quinnipiac released three polls that showed that Lindsey Graham was tied to his challenger. Based on that misinformation, his opponent raised $100 million, the most ever for a Senate candidate, but the poll was wrong, and Graham won the election despite the $100 million of his opponent. Harrison lost the race BY TEN POINTS!

There was $67 million raised for the Democratic candidate who lost in the state of Maine.

Washington Post had Biden up 17 points in Wisconsin, but it was closer to even, off by 17 points.

The polling errors were not just a little here and there, it was way off everywhere, which is highly significant.

t.Saturn conj. n.Pluto
Research at McGill University and the University of Toronto produced the statement, "Polls may lead people not to vote for a given party if that party is perceived not likely to win."
 

Cary2

Banned
The 1984 Reagan "49 state electoral vote victory" seems suspicious, the VP at the time was George Bush sr. known for some shady style of politics akin to the Nixon/Ford administration. Some say the last truly elected president "directly from the people" was assassinated: John F Kennedy. And the unpopularity of LBJ and later Carter, we keep having lame duck or very polarizing presidents, do the American people really have a choice of 2 political parties candidates?

t.Pluto oppose n.Mercury

The polls were famously wrong in the 2016 election, and it nearly destroyed the polling industry, but the polls were far worse in this election. No one will believe polls any more, and that means the end of that industry. Polls have the potential of delivering a service in demand, but they have been so crooked that they have crushed their own industry. If no one believes the polls, they cannot sell their services for income.

t.Saturn-conj-t.Pluto; t.Saturn-conj.-n.Pluto

In Pennsylvania, Nevada and Michigan, Trump has collected signed affidavits that attest to criminal activity in the voting process.

In Detroit, witnesses under oath said that ballots were illegally backdated and ballots were counted without matching signatures.

One poll-watcher alleges that 40,000 unsealed ballots were counted orally and every one went for Democrats.

In the Nevada election office, eight election officials testified that they witnessed voter fraud abetted by other Nevada election officials, their supervisors.

According to one affidavit, a poll worker saw people bringing handfuls of ballots to a Biden-Harris campaign van where they were filled out and placed in return envelopes. Then they erected a barrier to hide the activity from view.

In New York, deceased voters cast absentee ballots. On Oct. 9 in Nevada, Fred Stokes, Jr. mailed in his vote, but Stokes died several years ago at the age of 92. The Republican Party of Nevada said that it is aware of hundreds of dead people casting ballots. Several people in Pennsylvania who were born in the 19th century cast their vote. False claims of fraud can be as destructive as the fraud itself.

t.Pluto-oppose-n.Mercury

Election officials in Georgia admitted that they will find illegal voters and double voters when they check the voter rolls.

Gathering facts seems to be the last thing that our media wants to do. They are insisting that all dissenters and doubters shut up and accept Joe Biden. The media was not busy interviewing the poll watchers who signed affadavits about voter fraud.

t.Saturn-conj-n.Pluto

The Democrats claim to be the unifiers, the only unifiers, but after election day, Michelle Obama issued a tweet that said, "Let's remember that millions of people voted for the status quo even when it meant supporting lies, hate, chaos, and division." That is how Democrats hope to bring unity to American voters.

Biden declared that he would bring unity to the country after he had spent four years calling his opponents racists.

Hari Sevugan, a Bootegieg campaigner, issued a tweet that anyone who worked in the Trump administration should not be employed as punishment of what they did.

t.Saturn-oppose-n.Mercury

CNN news anchor, Don Lemon, after election day, said that he felt very emotional, and he didn't care; he couldn't help it; he felt very happy, and he didn't care if that meant he was biased; he didn't care if his bias would lose him his job.

People who cannot keep their emotions in check to preserve clear thinking are children, and they do not belong posing as journalists.

We need to investigate every claim of fraud, not for the sake of Donald Trump, but because there is now massive, perhaps a majority, numbers of voters who do not trust the election system, the Congress, or law enforcement. Anyone who cannot see what a crisis that alone is, is extremely short-sighted.

Jupiter/Saturn/Pluto

Investigation and correction is called for emphatically in order to protect the faith of the citizens in their nation.

t.Saturn-conj-t.Pluto

The worst election tampering was Silicon Valley, who in the final days of the election, suppressed Trump supporters and hid damaging facts and opinions about Joe Biden.

Marc Zuckerberg sent at least 350 million dollars to election judges in various places in the country in the final hours of the election process.

Facebook banned a committee to elect Trump from buying any campaign ads on Facebook. In what election has that happened before? None.
 
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Cary2

Banned
Not only the transits creating Mercury-oppose-Pluto and Saturn-oppose-Pluto,
but Solar Arc Pluto is conjuncting US natal MC.


Newsmax recently interviewed Lt. General Thomas McInerney (USAF ret.) about "Hammer and Scorecard".

Said the General:

"Hammer is an anti-terrorist tool employed first in 2003; it was converted by the Biden Administration into a surveillance tool to listen to American people and record what they were doing. Scorecard is an application like on your Iphone that can manipulate voting data to keep it within 3% so it is not obvious but switch it from Trump to Biden which the Democrats did in this election and it is clearly one of the most subtle and stealthy ways of changing voting and this is the first massive attack in the United States history, so there will be no more free election, Chris, after this one if we don't get this issue resolved. We will show specifically at what time, for instance, in Michigan at 0400 on the 4th of November, 138,000 votes came in for Biden. We'll show a whole host of these around the country that were attacked, the time, and how many votes were changed, and we'll have to compare it manually to the votes that went into the Secretary of State's office and then that came out, the differential, because people must realize I think that the voting machines are not hooked up to the internet. There are some in Texas that are, but in general they aren't. They're bundled, go up to the state, Secretary of State, and there at certain points they're shifted onto the internet and distributed, and that is where Hammer is put in, and they put the Scorecard application on it, and manufacture a different vote total, in this particular case in favor of Biden. This will have to be proved because it will have to go to a court of law."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYta8Pr-hKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IldDVPjN4tM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcAt48DUc0w
 
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JUPITERASC

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Prediction on 2020 Presidential Election -2020-Mark Cullen
http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=116146

For reasons of brevity
I don’t intend to go through every piece of mundane technique.
However, I will cover the following here.


1. The Jupiter-Saturn Cycle and the 2020 Election
2. USA chart (1776)
3. The Opening of Poll Contest Chart
4. The December Eclipse/Electoral College Vote
5. The Inauguration Chart
6. Aries Ingress
7. Libra Ingress
8. Scorpio Ingress

9. Conclusion
10. Addendum: Natal Chart Controversies

Conclusion
Looking at all the astrological testimony

the astrology
is consistent with Donald Trump being re-elected
the next President
after a very protracted and controversial process. :smile:



The ingress charts and opening of poll chart seem to favour Trump.
On the bigger scale
Trump’s strong synastry to the 2000 Jupiter-Saturn conjunction
indicates he may well be
the last hurrah of the earth triplicity Presidencies.





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Cary2

Banned
With regard to the collision of the transiting Pluto-Saturn conjunction with the natal USA Mercury-Pluto opposition:

A legitimate poll watcher who is also a forensics expert is testifying under oath that more than 100,000 votes among the 400,000 maximum votes in Delaware County, Pennsylvania should be disqualified. He saw illegitimate activity in most places where he inspected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3WK0M4S_Qw
 

Cary2

Banned
Along with the Pluto-Saturn conjunction transiting the Mercury-Pluto natal opposition, there was an sa.Pluto conjunction of USA's Mc.

Trump's legal team and members of Pennsylvania legislature laid out their case in detail in a public hearing for the legislature that the election procedures were flagrantly anomalous. Guiliani spoke first and declared that no one but the state legislature should run the election; it is stipulated in law.

There were well over 600,000 mail-in votes that were entered into the voting machinery without being observed by a single Republican. Under those circumstances all the votes might have been from the same person, might have all been for Biden. Under the law of the state, those ballots are illegal.

The state of PA sent out about 180,000 absentee ballots, but they received back approx. 1.4 million, however in the count for president, PA counted 2.5 million.

22,000 mail-in ballots were returned on the day they were mailed. 32,000 were returned the day after they were mailed. 20,000 were returned BEFORE they were mailed. More than 8,000 mail-in ballots for dead people. More than 4,000 mail-in ballots were never requested.

Over 100,000 ballots were counted and entered with no oversight whatsoever. They were counted in Hall F which has 120,000 square feet. The board of electors erected a fence and all the poll watchers were corralled behind the fence. Many of the ballot counters were arranged to be about 200 feet away from observers. Because of the distance it was impossible for the observers to see what the workers were doing. The observers were not allowed to challenge the arrangement or the processing of the mail-in ballots.

A number of poll watchers, Democrats as well as Republicans, cited irregularities and infractions, resistance, and intimidation with regard to the poll watchers.

Colonel Phil Walderen is a psychological informations officer in information and electronic warfare. He and his team have been studying voting machine manipulation since 2018. He said that the voting systems used in this election were built to be manipulated and were the same used in stolen elections around the world in Venezuela, Argentina, Italy, and Singapore.

One poll watcher, a Democrat, who spoke up about serious procedure infractions was intimidated by an election manager who got in her face and shouted at her that she needed to shut up, to stop causing trouble, to sit down and shut up, she didn't know what she was talking about.

The procedure infractions were massive and flagrant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTGMsoWMfkI
 
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