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Unread 07-12-2019, 02:56 AM
blessedgirl00 blessedgirl00 is offline
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Lightbulb Why isn't a person born in the Southern Hemisphere, in the end of February, a Virgo?

If zodiac signs are strongly associated with the seasons of the year, I wonder why they are not "inverted" in countries below the Equator. For example, right now while summer is at full throtle in, say, the United States or Russia, winter is reaching its coldest and darkest month in Australia or South America. Is a person born in February down there a more analytical Pisces? Could there be such a thing as a "Winter Leo"? Thanks

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Unread 07-12-2019, 03:46 AM
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Re: Why isn't a person born in the Southern Hemisphere, in the end of February, a Vir

Zodiac signs are seasons of the earth, not local seasons. February is Aquarius - Pisces month everywhere.

Yes, there is such a thing as a winter Leo. If you're born in the southern hemisphere during Leo month, you are one.

Each sign is a 30 degree section of sky. When the sun is in a sign, that means we're seeing it in that particular section of sky. Right now, we see the sun against the backdrop of the section that was, long ago, named Cancer. No matter which side of the equator you're on, that's still where the sun is.

Once upon a time, the sections of sky pretty closely matched the constellations they were named for. Thanks to precession, that's no longer true. For most of Cancer month, the sun actually rises into the constellation Gemini. But the constellations are not actually the signs. The name of a sign doesn't change even if it no longer aligns perfectly with the constellation.

The reason we see the sun against a particular sign is because of where we are in our orbit around the sun. For Pisces month in the north to be Virgo month in the south, half of the earth would have to be a separate planet, and it would have to always be on the opposite side of the sun from the other half of the earth. Since earth is all one planet, all on the same orbit, the sun sign is the same all over.
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Unread 07-12-2019, 04:43 AM
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Re: Why isn't a person born in the Southern Hemisphere, in the end of February, a Vir

Because they're a Pisces. At that time of year the Sun is in Pisces, even in the southern hemisphere.
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