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11-16-2020, 11:10 AM
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Scorpion is feminine, nocturnal, solid, terrestrial,
creeping, servile, silent, fertile, poisonous, unchangeable, fierce, thievish,
with many limbs, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates inquiries, deception, lawsuits, fights and mysticism.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Scorpio
are disproportioned and awkward, tricky, turbulent, base, covetous,
lying, bitter because the Scorpion is stingy, competitive, powerful,
with short head, delicate voice, round light green eyes, sharp nose,
lower lip bent, coarse hair, dark, military commanders, generals, destroyers of property,
thieves, murderers, traitors, burglars and haters of their own families.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Mars, depression of Moon,
it controls the reproductive organs, the muscular system, the urinary system,
the lower gastrointestinal tract.
It causes skin diseases on account of the rough skin and blindness on account of the sting.
It is like-empowered with Capricorn, like-ascending with Gemini
and like-engirding with Aries, and medium in both Hemispheres.
It is autumnal, cold and dry for the north, and vernal, hot and moist for the south.
Scorpio obeys Cancer for the north and commands it for the south.
Scorpio controls Metagonitis, Mauritania, Gaetulia, Syria, Comangene and Cappadocia.
The claws are rising up to the 7th degree, the head up to the 11th,
the body and Antares up to the 19th, the back up to the 24th,
and the sting up to the 30th.
The first 7° belong to Mars - embezzlements, dangers, travel
The next 4° belong to Venus - fortune, those who advance unexpectedly through others
The next 8° belong to Mercury - abiding, some become bankers and administrators
The next 5° belong to Jupiter - increase, advancement, inheritances
The final 6° belong to Saturn - necessity, constraint, infertile
Forehead - Mars and moderately Saturn
Body - Mars and moderately Jupiter
Joints - Saturn and moderately Venus
Sting - Mars and Mercury
M7 - Mars and the Moon
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of SCORPIO
SCORPIO is the domicile aka home of PYROEIS
MOON IS TRAVELLING SECOND DECAN
SIDEREAL SCORPIO
trigon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
hexagon SIDEREAL VIRGO VENUS
hexagon SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsh
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11-16-2020, 06:44 PM
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Scorpion is feminine, nocturnal, solid, terrestrial,
creeping, servile, silent, fertile, poisonous, unchangeable, fierce, thievish,
with many limbs, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates inquiries, deception, lawsuits, fights and mysticism.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Scorpio
are disproportioned and awkward, tricky, turbulent, base, covetous,
lying, bitter because the Scorpion is stingy, competitive, powerful,
with short head, delicate voice, round light green eyes, sharp nose,
lower lip bent, coarse hair, dark, military commanders, generals, destroyers of property,
thieves, murderers, traitors, burglars and haters of their own families.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Mars, depression of Moon,
it controls the reproductive organs, the muscular system, the urinary system,
the lower gastrointestinal tract.
It causes skin diseases on account of the rough skin and blindness on account of the sting.
It is like-empowered with Capricorn, like-ascending with Gemini
and like-engirding with Aries, and medium in both Hemispheres.
It is autumnal, cold and dry for the north, and vernal, hot and moist for the south.
Scorpio obeys Cancer for the north and commands it for the south.
Scorpio controls Metagonitis, Mauritania, Gaetulia, Syria, Comangene and Cappadocia.
The claws are rising up to the 7th degree, the head up to the 11th,
the body and Antares up to the 19th, the back up to the 24th,
and the sting up to the 30th.
The first 7° belong to Mars - embezzlements, dangers, travel
The next 4° belong to Venus - fortune, those who advance unexpectedly through others
The next 8° belong to Mercury - abiding, some become bankers and administrators
The next 5° belong to Jupiter - increase, advancement, inheritances
The final 6° belong to Saturn - necessity, constraint, infertile
Forehead - Mars and moderately Saturn
Body - Mars and moderately Jupiter
Joints - Saturn and moderately Venus
Sting - Mars and Mercury
M7 - Mars and the Moon
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of SCORPIO
SCORPIO is the domicile aka home of PYROEIS
MOON IS TRAVELLING THIRD DECAN
SIDEREAL SCORPIO
trigon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
hexagon SIDEREAL VIRGO VENUS
hexagon SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsh
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11-17-2020, 12:23 PM
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Archer is masculine, diurnal, double-bodied, terrestrial, human,
quadrupedal, royal, eloquent, infertile, enigmatic, incomplete,
with many limbs, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, action, fights, gifts and disputes.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Sagittarius are large, robust, well-proportioned and graceful,
notable, ambitious, generous, versatile, changeable, prominent, mysterious
because the Archer is unintelligible, gifted, crafty, with bald forehead, round small eyes,
intentional, long-bearded, athletic, bragging, reddish, kingly,
judges, just, loving their brothers and their friends,
superior over their enemies, losing much of their possessions,
gaining them back over the course of time.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Jupiter, it controls the thighs, the reproductive system,
the digestive system and the integumentary system.
It causes blindness on account of the arrow.
It is tropical, like-ascending with Taurus and like-engirding with Pisces,
and medium in both Hemispheres.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north, and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Sagittarius obeys Gemini for the north and commands it for the south.
Sagittarius controls Tyrrhenia, Celtica, Spain, Arabia Felix, Elymais and Iberia.
The arrow, the bow and the grip are rising up to the 12th degree,
the head up to the 17th, the back up to the 21st,
the cloak up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.
The first 12° belong to Jupiter - powers, leaders, lords of life and death, undaunted, kingly
The next 5° belong to Venus - flow, distress, passionate
The next 4° belong to Mercury - notable, fond of frivolous conversation, well-grown
The next 5° belong to Saturn - high spirits
The final 4° belong to Mars - travel, dangers, lawsuits
Arrow Point - Mars and the Moon
Bow and Grip - Jupiter and Mars
Forehead - Mars and the Sun
Cloak and Back - Jupiter and moderately Mercury
Feet - Jupiter and Saturn
Tail - Venus and moderately Saturn
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of SAGITTARIUS
SAGITTARIUS is the domicile aka home of PHAETHON
MOON IS INGRESSING
0°
AND IS TRAVELLING FIRST DECAN
SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS
hexagon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY
tetragon SIDEREAL VIRGO VENUS
tetragon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
ASSEMBLED WITH SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS RETROGRADE JUPITER
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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11-18-2020, 01:35 PM
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Archer is masculine, diurnal, double-bodied, terrestrial, human,
quadrupedal, royal, eloquent, infertile, enigmatic, incomplete,
with many limbs, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, action, fights, gifts and disputes.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Sagittarius are large, robust, well-proportioned and graceful,
notable, ambitious, generous, versatile, changeable, prominent, mysterious
because the Archer is unintelligible, gifted, crafty, with bald forehead, round small eyes,
intentional, long-bearded, athletic, bragging, reddish, kingly,
judges, just, loving their brothers and their friends,
superior over their enemies, losing much of their possessions,
gaining them back over the course of time.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Jupiter, it controls the thighs, the reproductive system,
the digestive system and the integumentary system.
It causes blindness on account of the arrow.
It is tropical, like-ascending with Taurus and like-engirding with Pisces,
and medium in both Hemispheres.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north, and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Sagittarius obeys Gemini for the north and commands it for the south.
Sagittarius controls Tyrrhenia, Celtica, Spain, Arabia Felix, Elymais and Iberia.
The arrow, the bow and the grip are rising up to the 12th degree,
the head up to the 17th, the back up to the 21st,
the cloak up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.
The first 12° belong to Jupiter - powers, leaders, lords of life and death, undaunted, kingly
The next 5° belong to Venus - flow, distress, passionate
The next 4° belong to Mercury - notable, fond of frivolous conversation, well-grown
The next 5° belong to Saturn - high spirits
The final 4° belong to Mars - travel, dangers, lawsuits
Arrow Point - Mars and the Moon
Bow and Grip - Jupiter and Mars
Forehead - Mars and the Sun
Cloak and Back - Jupiter and moderately Mercury
Feet - Jupiter and Saturn
Tail - Venus and moderately Saturn
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of SAGITTARIUS
SAGITTARIUS is the domicile aka home of PHAETHON
MOON IS TRAVELLING SECOND DECAN
SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS
hexagon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY
tetragon SIDEREAL VIRGO VENUS
tetragon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
ASSEMBLED WITH SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS RETROGRADE JUPITER
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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11-19-2020, 10:00 AM
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Archer is masculine, diurnal, double-bodied, terrestrial, human,
quadrupedal, royal, eloquent, infertile, enigmatic, incomplete,
with many limbs, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, action, fights, gifts and disputes.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Sagittarius are large, robust, well-proportioned and graceful,
notable, ambitious, generous, versatile, changeable, prominent, mysterious
because the Archer is unintelligible, gifted, crafty, with bald forehead, round small eyes,
intentional, long-bearded, athletic, bragging, reddish, kingly,
judges, just, loving their brothers and their friends,
superior over their enemies, losing much of their possessions,
gaining them back over the course of time.
The front is weaker, but the back is robust.
Domicile of Jupiter, it controls the thighs, the reproductive system,
the digestive system and the integumentary system.
It causes blindness on account of the arrow.
It is tropical, like-ascending with Taurus and like-engirding with Pisces,
and medium in both Hemispheres.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north, and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Sagittarius obeys Gemini for the north and commands it for the south.
Sagittarius controls Tyrrhenia, Celtica, Spain, Arabia Felix, Elymais and Iberia.
The arrow, the bow and the grip are rising up to the 12th degree,
the head up to the 17th, the back up to the 21st,
the cloak up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.
The first 12° belong to Jupiter - powers, leaders, lords of life and death, undaunted, kingly
The next 5° belong to Venus - flow, distress, passionate
The next 4° belong to Mercury - notable, fond of frivolous conversation, well-grown
The next 5° belong to Saturn - high spirits
The final 4° belong to Mars - travel, dangers, lawsuits
Arrow Point - Mars and the Moon
Bow and Grip - Jupiter and Mars
Forehead - Mars and the Sun
Cloak and Back - Jupiter and moderately Mercury
Feet - Jupiter and Saturn
Tail - Venus and moderately Saturn
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of SAGITTARIUS
SAGITTARIUS is the domicile aka home of PHAETHON
MOON IS TRAVELLING THIRD DECAN
SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS
hexagon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY
tetragon SIDEREAL VIRGO VENUS
tetragon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
ASSEMBLED WITH SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS RETROGRADE JUPITER
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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11-19-2020, 05:01 PM
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Goat-Horned One is feminine, nocturnal, changeable, watery, amphibian
servile, vocal, infertile, enigmatic, passionate, thievish, incomplete, missing limbs
two-natured, outrageous, sitting and of the south wind.
It indicates inquiries, accusations, separations, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Capricorn are small, burdened
deviant, lying, pretentious, inventive, unattractive, mysterious because the Goat-Horned One is unintelligible
curious, with sloping face, fine figure, beautiful black eyes, black hair, thick lips, sharp chin
lean, misfortunate, toilsome, unfortunate mistakes, lame, shameful, two-faced
pretending goodness and sincerity, always criticizing, fickle, brutal, criminal, warped
bad, fond of jokes, insomniacs, hunchbacks, sculptors, farmers, with nautical bent and waterside trades
lovers of pleasures, business expediters, initiates in mysteries, plotters of great deeds
and guardians of secret matters.
Domicile of Saturn, exaltation of Mars, depression of Jupiter, it controls the knees, the skeletal system
the lymphatic system and the immune system. It causes skin diseases on account of the rough skin
and blindness on account of the spine. It is like-empowered with Scorpio,
like-ascending with Aries and like-engriding with Aquarius, short in the Northern Hemisphere
and tall in the Southern Hemisphere. It is wintry, cold and moist for the north
and summery, hot and moist for the south. Capricorn obeys Taurus for the north
and commands it for the south. Capricorn controls India, Ariana, Gedrosia, Thrace, Macedonia and Illyria.
The front is rising up to the 7th degree, the head up to the 14th, the belly up to the 22nd
the back up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.
The first 7° belong to Mercury - abdominal birth, dangers, intelligent
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, preservative power
The next 8° belong to Venus - luxury, passionate
The next 4° belong to Saturn - summons, harsh, authoritative
The final 4° belong to Mars - concealments, bonds, flights
Horns - Venus and moderately Mars
Mouth - Saturn and moderately Venus
Feet and Belly - Mars and Mercury
Tail - Saturn and Jupiter
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of CAPRICORN
CAPRICORN is the domicile aka home of PHAENON
MOON IS INGRESSING 0°
AND IS TRAVELLING FIRST DECAN
SIDEREAL CAPRICORN
hexagon SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN
tetragon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY VENUS ASSEMBLY
hexagon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
assembled with SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
is viewable at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Goat-Horned One is feminine, nocturnal, changeable, watery, amphibian
servile, vocal, infertile, enigmatic, passionate, thievish, incomplete, missing limbs
two-natured, outrageous, sitting and of the south wind.
It indicates inquiries, accusations, separations, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Capricorn are small, burdened
deviant, lying, pretentious, inventive, unattractive, mysterious because the Goat-Horned One is unintelligible
curious, with sloping face, fine figure, beautiful black eyes, black hair, thick lips, sharp chin
lean, misfortunate, toilsome, unfortunate mistakes, lame, shameful, two-faced
pretending goodness and sincerity, always criticizing, fickle, brutal, criminal, warped
bad, fond of jokes, insomniacs, hunchbacks, sculptors, farmers, with nautical bent and waterside trades
lovers of pleasures, business expediters, initiates in mysteries, plotters of great deeds
and guardians of secret matters.
Domicile of Saturn, exaltation of Mars, depression of Jupiter, it controls the knees, the skeletal system
the lymphatic system and the immune system. It causes skin diseases on account of the rough skin
and blindness on account of the spine. It is like-empowered with Scorpio,
like-ascending with Aries and like-engriding with Aquarius, short in the Northern Hemisphere
and tall in the Southern Hemisphere. It is wintry, cold and moist for the north
and summery, hot and moist for the south. Capricorn obeys Taurus for the north
and commands it for the south. Capricorn controls India, Ariana, Gedrosia, Thrace, Macedonia and Illyria.
The front is rising up to the 7th degree, the head up to the 14th, the belly up to the 22nd
the back up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.
The first 7° belong to Mercury - abdominal birth, dangers, intelligent
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, preservative power
The next 8° belong to Venus - luxury, passionate
The next 4° belong to Saturn - summons, harsh, authoritative
The final 4° belong to Mars - concealments, bonds, flights
Horns - Venus and moderately Mars
Mouth - Saturn and moderately Venus
Feet and Belly - Mars and Mercury
Tail - Saturn and Jupiter
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of CAPRICORN
CAPRICORN is the domicile aka home of PHAENON
MOON IS TRAVELLING SECOND DECAN
SIDEREAL CAPRICORN
hexagon SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN
tetragon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY VENUS ASSEMBLY
hexagon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
assembled with SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
is viewable at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Goat-Horned One is feminine, nocturnal, changeable, watery, amphibian
servile, vocal, infertile, enigmatic, passionate, thievish, incomplete, missing limbs
two-natured, outrageous, sitting and of the south wind.
It indicates inquiries, accusations, separations, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Capricorn are small, burdened
deviant, lying, pretentious, inventive, unattractive, mysterious because the Goat-Horned One is unintelligible
curious, with sloping face, fine figure, beautiful black eyes, black hair, thick lips, sharp chin
lean, misfortunate, toilsome, unfortunate mistakes, lame, shameful, two-faced
pretending goodness and sincerity, always criticizing, fickle, brutal, criminal, warped
bad, fond of jokes, insomniacs, hunchbacks, sculptors, farmers, with nautical bent and waterside trades
lovers of pleasures, business expediters, initiates in mysteries, plotters of great deeds
and guardians of secret matters.
Domicile of Saturn, exaltation of Mars, depression of Jupiter, it controls the knees, the skeletal system
the lymphatic system and the immune system. It causes skin diseases on account of the rough skin
and blindness on account of the spine. It is like-empowered with Scorpio,
like-ascending with Aries and like-engriding with Aquarius, short in the Northern Hemisphere
and tall in the Southern Hemisphere. It is wintry, cold and moist for the north
and summery, hot and moist for the south. Capricorn obeys Taurus for the north
and commands it for the south. Capricorn controls India, Ariana, Gedrosia, Thrace, Macedonia and Illyria.
The front is rising up to the 7th degree, the head up to the 14th, the belly up to the 22nd
the back up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.
The first 7° belong to Mercury - abdominal birth, dangers, intelligent
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, preservative power
The next 8° belong to Venus - luxury, passionate
The next 4° belong to Saturn - summons, harsh, authoritative
The final 4° belong to Mars - concealments, bonds, flights
Horns - Venus and moderately Mars
Mouth - Saturn and moderately Venus
Feet and Belly - Mars and Mercury
Tail - Saturn and Jupiter
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of CAPRICORN
CAPRICORN is the domicile aka home of PHAENON
MOON IS TRAVELLING THIRD DECAN
SIDEREAL CAPRICORN
hexagon SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN
tetragon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY VENUS ASSEMBLY
hexagon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
assembled with SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
is viewable at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Water-Pourer is masculine, diurnal, solid, watery, human
servile, eloquent, semi-infertile, handsome, standing and of the east wind.
It indicates inquiries, affairs, crafts, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler
men born under the influence of Aquarius are burdened, envious, lying
occasionally generous because of the uncontrollable flow of the Water-Pourer
craftsmen, public, mystical, youthful, delicate, with beautiful figure and eyes
smooth hair, dizzy, beautiful manners, white, working with hard materials, troubled by athletic training
artisans, wealthy, malicious, haters of their own families, incorrigible
making living by waterside places, betrayers of reputation and truth
accusers, haters of mankind, godless and uncontrollable.
Domicile of Saturn, it controls the lower legs, the skeletal system,
the lymphatic system and the immune system.
It causes blindness on account of the water.
It is like-empowered with Libra, like-ascending with Pisces
and like-engirding with Capricorn, short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north
and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Aquarius obeys Aries for the north and commands it for the south.
Aquarius controls Sauromatica, Oxiana, Sogdiana, Arabia, Azania and Middle Ethiopia.
The left hand and the head are rising up to the 7th degree, the body and the right hand up to the 13th
the pitcher up to the 20th, the water up to the 25th
and the falling water up to the 30th.
The first 7° belong to Mercury - mastery, lovers of wisdom
The next 6° belong to Venus - friendships with great women
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, some are winners of games
The next 5° belong to Mars - lawsuits, injuries, some die violent deaths
The final 5° belong to Saturn - education, grief in youth
Shoulders, Left Arm and Cloak - Saturn and Mercury
Thighs - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Water - Saturn and moderately Jupiter
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of AQUARIUS
AQUARIUS is the domicile aka home of PHAINON
MOON IS INGRESSING 0°
AND IS TRAVELLING
FIRST DECAN
SIDEREAL AQUARIUS
trigon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY VENUS ASSEMBLY
hexagon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS RETROGRADE JUPITER
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Water-Pourer is masculine, diurnal, solid, watery, human
servile, eloquent, semi-infertile, handsome, standing and of the east wind.
It indicates inquiries, affairs, crafts, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler
men born under the influence of Aquarius are burdened, envious, lying
occasionally generous because of the uncontrollable flow of the Water-Pourer
craftsmen, public, mystical, youthful, delicate, with beautiful figure and eyes
smooth hair, dizzy, beautiful manners, white, working with hard materials, troubled by athletic training
artisans, wealthy, malicious, haters of their own families, incorrigible
making living by waterside places, betrayers of reputation and truth
accusers, haters of mankind, godless and uncontrollable.
Domicile of Saturn, it controls the lower legs, the skeletal system,
the lymphatic system and the immune system.
It causes blindness on account of the water.
It is like-empowered with Libra, like-ascending with Pisces
and like-engirding with Capricorn, short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north
and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Aquarius obeys Aries for the north and commands it for the south.
Aquarius controls Sauromatica, Oxiana, Sogdiana, Arabia, Azania and Middle Ethiopia.
The left hand and the head are rising up to the 7th degree, the body and the right hand up to the 13th
the pitcher up to the 20th, the water up to the 25th
and the falling water up to the 30th.
The first 7° belong to Mercury - mastery, lovers of wisdom
The next 6° belong to Venus - friendships with great women
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, some are winners of games
The next 5° belong to Mars - lawsuits, injuries, some die violent deaths
The final 5° belong to Saturn - education, grief in youth
Shoulders, Left Arm and Cloak - Saturn and Mercury
Thighs - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Water - Saturn and moderately Jupiter
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of AQUARIUS
AQUARIUS is the domicile aka home of PHAINON
MOON ISTRAVELLING
SECOND DECAN
SIDEREAL AQUARIUS
trigon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY VENUS ASSEMBLY
hexagon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS RETROGRADE JUPITER
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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The first 7° belong to Mercury - mastery, lovers of wisdom
Late degree Saturn ruler of 0' to 7' Aquarius...
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The first 7° belong to Mercury - mastery, lovers of wisdom
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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Water-Pourer is masculine, diurnal, solid, watery, human
servile, eloquent, semi-infertile, handsome, standing and of the east wind.
It indicates inquiries, affairs, crafts, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler
men born under the influence of Aquarius are burdened, envious, lying
occasionally generous because of the uncontrollable flow of the Water-Pourer
craftsmen, public, mystical, youthful, delicate, with beautiful figure and eyes
smooth hair, dizzy, beautiful manners, white, working with hard materials, troubled by athletic training
artisans, wealthy, malicious, haters of their own families, incorrigible
making living by waterside places, betrayers of reputation and truth
accusers, haters of mankind, godless and uncontrollable.
Domicile of Saturn, it controls the lower legs, the skeletal system,
the lymphatic system and the immune system.
It causes blindness on account of the water.
It is like-empowered with Libra, like-ascending with Pisces
and like-engirding with Capricorn, short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north
and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Aquarius obeys Aries for the north and commands it for the south.
Aquarius controls Sauromatica, Oxiana, Sogdiana, Arabia, Azania and Middle Ethiopia.
The left hand and the head are rising up to the 7th degree, the body and the right hand up to the 13th
the pitcher up to the 20th, the water up to the 25th
and the falling water up to the 30th.
The first 7° belong to Mercury - mastery, lovers of wisdom
The next 6° belong to Venus - friendships with great women
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, some are winners of games
The next 5° belong to Mars - lawsuits, injuries, some die violent deaths
The final 5° belong to Saturn - education, grief in youth
Shoulders, Left Arm and Cloak - Saturn and Mercury
Thighs - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Water - Saturn and moderately Jupiter
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of AQUARIUS
AQUARIUS is the domicile aka home of PHAINON
MOON IS TRAVELLING
THIRD DECAN
SIDEREAL AQUARIUS
trigon SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY VENUS ASSEMBLY
hexagon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS RETROGRADE JUPITER
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Fishes is feminine, nocturnal, double-bodied, watery, submerged,
notable, silent, fertile, passionate, missing limbs, polycentric, two-coloured,
swimming, mossy, motile, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates governorship, travel, wealth, water, summons and plots,
those who become endowed with genius, unsteady, trustworthy,
those who are full of ideas, the philosophers, commanders of the fleets, traders,
hound-leaders, hunters, seamen, fowlers, bird-keepers and business expediters.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Pisces
are small, disproportioned and awkward, complicated because of the directions of the Fishes,
changeable, restless, mystical, slight, wandering, popular, slightly sallow,
delicate, with ruddy head, fish eyes, beautiful hair, soft hands,
bright voice and white.
Domicile of Jupiter, exaltation of Venus, depression of Mercury, it controls the feet,
the reproductive system, the digestive system and the integumentary system,
and it indicates skin diseases on account of the rough skin.
It is equinoctial, like-empowered with Virgo, like-ascending with Aquarius
and like-engirding with Sagittarius, short in the Northern Hemisphere
and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Pisces controls Phazania, Nasamonitis, Garamantica, Lydia, Cilicia and Pamphylia.
The southern fish head and the southern fish body are rising up to 12th degree,
the southern tail up to the 16th degree, the southern cord up to the 19th,
the northern fish up to the 28th, and the bond up to the 30th.
The first 12° belong to Venus - fertile, jealousy, with many enemies
The next 4° belong to Jupiter - advancement, elevation, commanding
The next 3° belong to Mercury - intelligence, well-grown, highly frivolous
The next 9° belong to Mars - violent, excessive, with many accusations
The final 2° belong to Saturn - virtuous, wise, dominant
Head of the Southern Fish - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Body of the Southern Fish - Jupiter and Mercury
Southern Tail and Cord - Saturn and moderately Mercury
Body of the Northern Fish - Jupiter and moderately Venus
Northern Cord - Saturn and Jupiter
Bond - Mars and moderately Mercury
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
TRAVELLING CONSTELLATION of PISCES
MOON IS INGRESSING 0° SIDEREAL PISCES
AND IS TRAVELLING
FIRST DECAN
of PISCES the domicile aka home of PHAETHON
transiting MOON is currently ASSEMBLED WITH SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
trigon SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN
tetragon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS JUPITER
hexagon SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Fishes is feminine, nocturnal, double-bodied, watery, submerged,
notable, silent, fertile, passionate, missing limbs, polycentric, two-coloured,
swimming, mossy, motile, lying and of the west wind.
It indicates governorship, travel, wealth, water, summons and plots,
those who become endowed with genius, unsteady, trustworthy,
those who are full of ideas, the philosophers, commanders of the fleets, traders,
hound-leaders, hunters, seamen, fowlers, bird-keepers and business expediters.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Pisces
are small, disproportioned and awkward, complicated because of the directions of the Fishes,
changeable, restless, mystical, slight, wandering, popular, slightly sallow,
delicate, with ruddy head, fish eyes, beautiful hair, soft hands,
bright voice and white.
Domicile of Jupiter, exaltation of Venus, depression of Mercury, it controls the feet,
the reproductive system, the digestive system and the integumentary system,
and it indicates skin diseases on account of the rough skin.
It is equinoctial, like-empowered with Virgo, like-ascending with Aquarius
and like-engirding with Sagittarius, short in the Northern Hemisphere
and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Pisces controls Phazania, Nasamonitis, Garamantica, Lydia, Cilicia and Pamphylia.
The southern fish head and the southern fish body are rising up to 12th degree,
the southern tail up to the 16th degree, the southern cord up to the 19th,
the northern fish up to the 28th, and the bond up to the 30th.
The first 12° belong to Venus - fertile, jealousy, with many enemies
The next 4° belong to Jupiter - advancement, elevation, commanding
The next 3° belong to Mercury - intelligence, well-grown, highly frivolous
The next 9° belong to Mars - violent, excessive, with many accusations
The final 2° belong to Saturn - virtuous, wise, dominant
Head of the Southern Fish - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Body of the Southern Fish - Jupiter and Mercury
Southern Tail and Cord - Saturn and moderately Mercury
Body of the Northern Fish - Jupiter and moderately Venus
Northern Cord - Saturn and Jupiter
Bond - Mars and moderately Mercury
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
TRAVELLING CONSTELLATION of PISCES
MOON IS TRAVELLING SIDEREAL PISCES
SECOND DECAN
of PISCES the domicile aka home of PHAETHON
transiting MOON is currently ASSEMBLED WITH SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
trigon SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN
tetragon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS JUPITER
hexagon SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Ram is masculine, diurnal, changeable, terrestrial, quadrupedal,
agricultural, royal, vocal, semi-infertile, passionate, two-coloured, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, fights, wealth, family, lawsuits, livestock, commanding matters,
those who are governing, brilliant, procuratorial, authoritarian, quickly changing, two-toned,
with decorations of clothing, just, hard on offenders, fiery and the cause of rank.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Aries
are independent because of the horns of the Ram, distinguished, bold, intimidating, wealthy, boastful,
restless, youthful, with long face, broad forehead, black eyes, drawn nostrils,
thin lips, strong voice, sloping shoulders and red.
The front is robust, but the back is weaker.
Domicile of Mars, exaltation of the Sun, depression of Saturn, it controls the head, the muscular system,
the urinary system and the lower gastrointestinal tract.
It is like-empowered with Leo, like-ascending with Capricorn and like-engirding with Scorpio,
short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Aries commands Aquarius in the north and obeys it in the south.
Aries controls Brittania, Galatia, Germania, Palestine, Idumaea and Judaea.
The front and the horns are rising up to the 6th degree, the head up to the 12th,
the body up to the 20th, the hind foot up to the 25th, and the tail up to the 30th.
The first 6° belong to Jupiter - elevation from low conditions to greater
The next 6° belong to Venus - love, friendships and intercourse with distinguished women
The next 8° belong to Mercury - intelligent, well-grown, love of labour, advancements
The next 5° belong to Mars - grief, passionate, injuries, unprofitable entanglements
The final 5° belong to Saturn - two-faced, some are trustees, teachers, judges or administrators
Head - Saturn and Mars
Mouth - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Hind Foot - Mars
Tail - Venus
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of ARIES
MOON IS CURRENTLY INGRESSING 0°
SIDEREAL ARIES
ARIES is the domicile aka home of PYROEIS
MOON IS TRAVELLING FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL ARIES
diameter SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY VENUS ASSEMBLY
trigon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS JUPITER
tetragon SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Ram is masculine, diurnal, changeable, terrestrial, quadrupedal,
agricultural, royal, vocal, semi-infertile, passionate, two-coloured, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, fights, wealth, family, lawsuits, livestock, commanding matters,
those who are governing, brilliant, procuratorial, authoritarian, quickly changing, two-toned,
with decorations of clothing, just, hard on offenders, fiery and the cause of rank.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Aries
are independent because of the horns of the Ram, distinguished, bold, intimidating, wealthy, boastful,
restless, youthful, with long face, broad forehead, black eyes, drawn nostrils,
thin lips, strong voice, sloping shoulders and red.
The front is robust, but the back is weaker.
Domicile of Mars, exaltation of the Sun, depression of Saturn, it controls the head, the muscular system,
the urinary system and the lower gastrointestinal tract.
It is like-empowered with Leo, like-ascending with Capricorn and like-engirding with Scorpio,
short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Aries commands Aquarius in the north and obeys it in the south.
Aries controls Brittania, Galatia, Germania, Palestine, Idumaea and Judaea.
The front and the horns are rising up to the 6th degree, the head up to the 12th,
the body up to the 20th, the hind foot up to the 25th, and the tail up to the 30th.
The first 6° belong to Jupiter - elevation from low conditions to greater
The next 6° belong to Venus - love, friendships and intercourse with distinguished women
The next 8° belong to Mercury - intelligent, well-grown, love of labour, advancements
The next 5° belong to Mars - grief, passionate, injuries, unprofitable entanglements
The final 5° belong to Saturn - two-faced, some are trustees, teachers, judges or administrators
Head - Saturn and Mars
Mouth - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Hind Foot - Mars
Tail - Venus
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of ARIES
ARIES is the domicile aka home of PYROEIS
MOON IS TRAVELLING SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL ARIES
diameter SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY VENUS ASSEMBLY
trigon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS JUPITER
tetragon SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac
The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.
The image of the Ram is masculine, diurnal, changeable, terrestrial, quadrupedal,
agricultural, royal, vocal, semi-infertile, passionate, two-coloured, running and of the north wind.
It indicates governorship, fights, wealth, family, lawsuits, livestock, commanding matters,
those who are governing, brilliant, procuratorial, authoritarian, quickly changing, two-toned,
with decorations of clothing, just, hard on offenders, fiery and the cause of rank.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Aries
are independent because of the horns of the Ram, distinguished, bold, intimidating, wealthy, boastful,
restless, youthful, with long face, broad forehead, black eyes, drawn nostrils,
thin lips, strong voice, sloping shoulders and red.
The front is robust, but the back is weaker.
Domicile of Mars, exaltation of the Sun, depression of Saturn, it controls the head, the muscular system,
the urinary system and the lower gastrointestinal tract.
It is like-empowered with Leo, like-ascending with Capricorn and like-engirding with Scorpio,
short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is vernal, hot and moist in the north, and autumnal, cold and dry in the south.
Aries commands Aquarius in the north and obeys it in the south.
Aries controls Brittania, Galatia, Germania, Palestine, Idumaea and Judaea.
The front and the horns are rising up to the 6th degree, the head up to the 12th,
the body up to the 20th, the hind foot up to the 25th, and the tail up to the 30th.
The first 6° belong to Jupiter - elevation from low conditions to greater
The next 6° belong to Venus - love, friendships and intercourse with distinguished women
The next 8° belong to Mercury - intelligent, well-grown, love of labour, advancements
The next 5° belong to Mars - grief, passionate, injuries, unprofitable entanglements
The final 5° belong to Saturn - two-faced, some are trustees, teachers, judges or administrators
Head - Saturn and Mars
Mouth - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Hind Foot - Mars
Tail - Venus
Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.
Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
in CONSTELLATION of ARIES
ARIES is the domicile aka home of PYROEIS
MOON IS TRAVELLING THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL ARIES
diameter SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY VENUS ASSEMBLY
trigon SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS JUPITER
tetragon SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
FOR VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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11-29-2020, 04:48 PM
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
TRAVELLING CONSTELLATION of TAURUS
TAURUS is the domicile aka home of PHOSPHOROS
transiting MOON IS
INGRESSING 0°
FIRST DECAN CONSTELLATION of TAURUS
diameter SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN MERCURY ASSEMBLY
hexagon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
trigon SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
TRAVELLING CONSTELLATION of TAURUS
TAURUS is the domicile aka home of PHOSPHOROS
transiting MOON IS TRAVELLING
SECOND DECAN CONSTELLATION of TAURUS
diameter SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN MERCURY ASSEMBLY
hexagon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
trigon SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Full moon in Gemini tonight and people are really losing it (their minds, mouth and manners). For myself, When Mercury is in Pisces at birth squares Gemini, are they good communicators? Mine Geminian ruler is in the 9th (Mercury's fall in 13' Pisces).
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  or   , I have the same ruling planets:  Uranus and  Saturn. I see the Cancer rising. Aries  in the MC and Venus was her name!
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Trumps chart is viewable online at numerous sites
and is validation of observing effects of FIXED STARS
Trump has powerful FIXED STARS conjunct natal chart angles
for example:
Trumps MARS on Ascendant
is ALSO conjunct powerful fixed star REGULUS - THE KINGMAKER 
REGULUS RISING WITH MARS = Honor
fame
strong character
as well as
public prominence
and
high military command
Trump is now COMMANDER IN CHIEF of The United States of America
THE FIXED STARS IN NATAL ASTROLOGY http://constellationsofwords.com/cat...atalrobson.htm
SIDEREAL ASTROLOGER Kenneth Bowser correctly in May 2016
predicted a Trump victory http://www.westernsiderealastrology.com/trump-news
Quote:
Originally Posted by dr. farr
The Trump nativity would have been called
"An Imperial Horosocope"
by the court astrologers of the Roman emperors
(prior to the 4th century CE)
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CURTIS MANWARING on Trump 
'....Donald Trump's ascendant is right on the fixed star Regulus
which is significant for royalty and a tendency to rise in life.
Robert Schmidt of PROJECT HINDSIGHT said many years ago that
the word for angle used in the Hellenistic texts is "kentron"
which has two meanings:
one is to be a center of activity upon which something revolves around
(why it's translated as "pivot" in some cases)
and the other is to operate as a sort of goad
or cattle prod.....' http://www.astrology-x-files.com/x-f...ction2016.html
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12-01-2020, 08:55 PM
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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen
Assuming local skies are clear
then
by visual observation at night
and using ALDEBARAN 15
MOON TODAY is visibly observed in local skies worldwide
TRAVELLING CONSTELLATION of TAURUS
TAURUS is the domicile aka home of PHOSPHOROS
transiting MOON IS TRAVELLING
THIRD DECAN CONSTELLATION of TAURUS
diameter SIDEREAL SCORPIO SUN MERCURY ASSEMBLY
hexagon SIDEREAL PISCES MARS
trigon SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SATURN
VIDEO ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
Quote:
Originally Posted by petosiris
1. The gods send signs to all nations, but they are not interpret the same for the different lands,
for one they signify hot weather, for another they signify cold weather,
and for third they signify temperate weather.
2. In the same way, the like-principles of rising times and daylight
become less discernible and causative in the equatorial zones.
3. Therefore another celestial influence is causative for nativities,
rather than the terrestrial effect of weather.
Otherwise, there would be no domicile, no exaltation
and no depression for the equatorial lands.
4. The rationale of the sidereal zodiac is compatible with this hypothesis,
the rationale of the tropical zodiac is not.
MOON travels each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions
regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10°
to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha
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