Moon's angle in Horary House
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Chrysalis
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The Asc is fine.
Senecar
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I think read somewhere last year, if Asc less than 7 degrees, too early to ask the question?
I cannot recall which book it was.
JUPITERASC
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Senecar
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Yeah - the chart is for horary studies anyway.
I have a chance to study the chart, and compare the readings with the outcome of the situation - so it is good exercise opportunity.
The querent is to inherit land and a house from his late father, but they have feud between the querent's brother and step-mother. They don't agree on their shares, and stopped communicating. Lawyers are consulted.
I have a chance to study the chart, and compare the readings with the outcome of the situation - so it is good exercise opportunity.
The querent is to inherit land and a house from his late father, but they have feud between the querent's brother and step-mother. They don't agree on their shares, and stopped communicating. Lawyers are consulted.
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Senecar
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An early Ascendant
shows things haven't developed yet so it's too early
Horary Astrology by Anothony Louis says (pp.54), that ASC. same or over 3 degree is fine for radical charts.
So the chart is fine for reading. Chrysalis was right.
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Chrysalis
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Jup has still got a point...but the chart CAN still be read, even a chart at zero degrees something can be read, as long as past aspects have been made in relevance to the question.
Example: "will i get the job ?" asc @ 0,34' and you have not even posted off your resume/cv yet for the job....get my point
So the chart can still be read, but the asc is early as you've not actually done anything about the question you've asked.
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JUPITERASC
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notice you said "is fine for RADICAL charts"
ExactlyJup has still got a point...
but the chart CAN still be read, even a chart at zero degrees something
can be read
as long as past aspects have been made
in relevance to the question.
Example: "will i get the job ?" asc @ 0,34'
and you have not even posted off your resume/cv yet for the job
....get my point
So the chart can still be read but the asc is early
as you've not actually done anything about the question you've asked.
Chrysalis
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Charts can be read and be accurate at any degree, even 0.00000.
Its the hourly ruler you need to be checking.
Senecar
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Could you explain how to check hourly ruler?
Chrysalis
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You first need to find out the hour ruler, i use an App ive downloaded onto my phone called "Planetary hours", its very easy to use.
Then say for example the planet ruling the Planetary hour is Sun and sun is in Cancer (a Water sign) and Virgo the asc sign, is ( an Earth sign) then basically there's no agreement between the Planetary lord Sun and the ascending sign of Virgo as its earth.
If the Sun was in Taurus (an earth sign), then there would be an agreement between the Planetary hour lord and the rising sign of Virgo, as they're both earth.
Then say for example the planet ruling the Planetary hour is Sun and sun is in Cancer (a Water sign) and Virgo the asc sign, is ( an Earth sign) then basically there's no agreement between the Planetary lord Sun and the ascending sign of Virgo as its earth.
If the Sun was in Taurus (an earth sign), then there would be an agreement between the Planetary hour lord and the rising sign of Virgo, as they're both earth.
IleneK
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Here by attachment is a wee bit more about agreement between ruler of the planetary hour and the ascendant.
Senecar
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Great info Iline. cheers.
Yeah, I got Bonatti's book, but next day I got Anthony Louise Book on Horary Astrology too, so reading that the now, which is excellent book also. Not sure if it had mentioned anything about hourly ruler though. Will check it out tonight.
Will get back to Bonatti afterwards.
Last night Louise book was saying there are two schools of Horary Astrology.
One focuses on House cusps, and the other on the Moon.
Yeah, I got Bonatti's book, but next day I got Anthony Louise Book on Horary Astrology too, so reading that the now, which is excellent book also. Not sure if it had mentioned anything about hourly ruler though. Will check it out tonight.
Will get back to Bonatti afterwards.
Last night Louise book was saying there are two schools of Horary Astrology.
One focuses on House cusps, and the other on the Moon.
Senecar
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Just checked briefly on Horary Astrology Plain & Simple by Anthony Louise, but it is not mentioning anything about hourly rulerships in the book.
He seems concentrating on House Cusps and placement of planets in there.
But it is a good book for beginner written very clearly. It is also very modern contemporary rather than traditional book, but still refers a lot to Lilly and Bonatti.
He seems concentrating on House Cusps and placement of planets in there.
But it is a good book for beginner written very clearly. It is also very modern contemporary rather than traditional book, but still refers a lot to Lilly and Bonatti.
JUPITERASC
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you say you have Bonatti
and so
if you check Bonatti for yourself, you can read what Bonatti actually wrote on radicality
Senecar
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you say you have Bonatti
and so
if you check Bonatti for yourself, you can read what Bonatti actually wrote on radicality
I did. But Bonatti's Horary book is mostly on practical questions and it is also house based = for example 4th house = questions regarding inheritance, land, property, sales or rent on these = how to read it & come to judgement.
6th house = questions regarding sick person, will he recover from the sickness? questions about slaves etc.
Bonatti seems focusing on Asc's Lord and then Moon's placement on the house.
In the first chapter, he explains how to check radical charts. He talks about the mental status of the querent must be read with a chart before the querent arrives astrologers house for asking readings.
If the chart describes about the querents question or emotional status, then astrologer will cast the real chart for the question. If not, he abstains from doing so.
There is no mention on rulership of planets in Volumne 6 - Bonatti on Harary.