I have relocated a few times across the planet to far away places and cities. Somehow in some places where I have, say, jupiter line or sun line, I still felt an omnipresent and creeping feeling of gloom and doom. I know that wherever I go, I bring my natal chart with me, since it's a huge part of my personality make-up. I didn't understand why in places where things are, theoretically, supposed to be awesome, somehow I still suffered issues related to saturn (restrictions, housing problems [my natal saturn is in the 4th]) and pluto (power struggles).
Just a few days ago, I started paying attention to the crossings, after learning the importance of them through others' experiences. Upon some investigation, I noticed how all the major cities I travelled to and stayed in have one crossing in common (I traveled horizontally across canada from west to east around the same latitude). And the crossing line is saturn/pluto.
Maybe the crossings' influence is more powerful than I thought. Now I re-examined my lines for different cities, and it seems that some cities in the states that share the similar major lines as the ones in canada are better for me, because some of them have no saturn crossing or lines whatsoever.
Considering that saturn only have two aspects in my chart, both are negative, one is a square to my sun, one is conjunction to my IC, I think it's wise for me to avoid saturn-influenced places at all costs.
My birth place have saturn/IC line running right through it, so I know all about the cold saturn business. I ain't about this life tbh! I don't want to spend my whole life stuck in such places and wallowing in pity and depression.
What do you think about the influence of crossings? Any experience?
I have relocated a few times across the planet to far away places and cities. Somehow in some places where I have, say, jupiter line or sun line, I still felt an omnipresent and creeping feeling of gloom and doom. I know that wherever I go, I bring my natal chart with me, since it's a huge part of my personality make-up. I didn't understand why in places where things are, theoretically, supposed to be awesome, somehow I still suffered issues related to saturn (restrictions, housing problems [my natal saturn is in the 4th]) and pluto (power struggles).
Just a few days ago, I started paying attention to the crossings, after learning the importance of them through others' experiences. Upon some investigation, I noticed how all the major cities I travelled to and stayed in have one crossing in common (I traveled horizontally across canada from west to east around the same latitude). And the crossing line is saturn/pluto.
Maybe the crossings' influence is more powerful than I thought. Now I re-examined my lines for different cities, and it seems that some cities in the states that share the similar major lines as the ones in canada are better for me, because some of them have no saturn crossing or lines whatsoever.
Considering that saturn only have two aspects in my chart, both are negative, one is a square to my sun, one is conjunction to my IC, I think it's wise for me to avoid saturn-influenced places at all costs.
My birth place have saturn/IC line running right through it, so I know all about the cold saturn business. I ain't about this life tbh! I don't want to spend my whole life stuck in such places and wallowing in pity and depression.
What do you think about the influence of crossings? Any experience?
Hello:
The crossing of Saturn and Pluto is one of the worst place to be, on Earth, and being on the same latitude as the crossing (in my experience) is NOT as bad, but is potentially a harmful place.
I also have an afflicted natal Sun in adverse aspect to Saturn.
To cite my own experience, I also happen to have a Saturn/Pluto crossing not far from Los Angeles and the Mexican border.
Dealings with Los Angeles/San Diego people have always been problematic and VERY difficult for me.
I once met an astrology client and her daughter from this area and they were bad news from the get-go. Really diffiicult and stressful to deal with !
They were living like "vultures" in abject poverty ! LOL
The mother had paid the daughter a visit and the daughter had no furniture in their house, as she was moving ?
As a result, my client slept on her daughter's floor ?
I then learned that the daughter was involved in a serious criminal matter involving dui and jail was imminent !
Whereever Pluto is angular, criminality or dealings with criminals is common and you have to always watch your back.
This Saturn Pluto crossing also extends into the State of Arizona. I once was a member of an astrology forum owned and operated by a world famous Arizona based astrologer for a period of several years !
In the beginning, this individual was nice to me, but as time went on, I just got the impression that he was controlling, manipulative and increasingly evil ? Then I discovered that he worked with a team of business partners, who also ******* people over ?
I had to leave the forum for good, never to come back.
One of the manifestations of a Saturn Pluto zone is being the victim of a powerplay, a slander or outright character assasination by some psycho with a thirst for power and control ?
You need to be very careful in those zones, as you could meet some very nasty people who will try to f*ck up your life ?
Regarding your natal Saturn = the IC, Saturn is not necessarily "bad," but in your case, it talks about your father and your relationship with your family, in general.
Saturn here can mean that you don't always have a great relationship with father and that there could have been little love expressed between you. Or maybe you felt that you were not loved enough when you were a child ?
Maybe that is why you are so bitter today, as an adult ? But as with all things Saturn, the situation can improve over time and, as you get older, you can get a grip on your life ?
Also, very important, when judging the relocation chart, please do not dwell on the crossing, but look at the WHOLE relocation chart for a blended answer.
Do not judge the whole area on just the angular planets, but also, the ruler of the 1st house, its conditions and placements, the midheaven, etc.
later,
HM
It's recommended you shouldn't visit or stay in southern CA and everyone it seems wants to travel or live here (esp. the winter months in the Palm Springs area, ROFL). I'm a CA native, Palm Springs area local (year-round) and probably forever...always had an interest in relocation out of state, but when you think the "grass is greener" you're not prepared to deal with the new place you want to call home: different climate, elevation, culture, economic situations and becoming familiar with your surroundings. And my own observations of places I traveled to: Utah, OK, France and Mexico.
I find southern CA crowded, expensive, HOT (triple digit highs) in the summer, not as friendly, limited job opportunities and issues with county/state public social services I'm on. I'm concerned with drought (worst in 2 centuries), immigration (out-of-state and foreign) contributing to overpopulation (?), earthquake risk (a M8+ on the San Andreas fault someday) and political ideologies (are we really "free" or too much laws?) can affect the quality of life for me and other 38.5 million Californians. Note an Aquarius sun lives in an Aquarius rising CA, Aquarius moon USA.
Individually, we have a perfect place in our heart and soul, and not everyone will find CA (northern or southern) right for them. I find astro-cartography a practical guide of my life, what if I moved to a particular city or town and how it may affect me, and clues to my family history. Let's say if a meridian/longitude ruled by Venus MC is where I find love? Or the Sun/Moon AC where I marry or have a family? Mercury DC where I have business opportunity? or Pluto IC is where I may die? And most of all, why where I live can't provide or less likely these things based on my natal chart.
Just a few days ago, I started paying attention to the crossings, after learning the importance of them through others' experiences. Upon some investigation, I noticed how all the major cities I travelled to and stayed in have one crossing in common (I traveled horizontally across canada from west to east around the same latitude). And the crossing line is saturn/pluto.
Maybe the crossings' influence is more powerful than I thought.
The influence of a Paran is most prominent at the exact point were the A*C*G lines come together over the earth. As an important, though secondary effect, practitioners will note the earth latitude where the crossing occurs and considers the force of those planets active - at that latitude- around the entire globe.
Why around the entire globe? Well, in 24 hours the earth will rotate below the crossing of the two planetary lines, energising that entire latitude with the force of the planetary square in space. An orb of plus or minus one degree of latitude is often used when determining the range of potency, though sometimes practitioners enlarge the orb beyond this. As with all of the other A*C*G lines, the tighter the orb, the greater the effect we can expect.
- Martin Davis