The Crisis with Iran

Monk

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Lets try to get to "Articles of British Mandate"

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_Century/Palmanda.asp

Governments say they try to give guidence without religion, i would say "article 4" would not make Arabs happy in Palestine?

Knights Templars like to dig in Jerusalem...so why "Article 21"?....
 
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Monk

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Sir Hubert Samuel was a Jew, however i'm moderate, please note in Christian Countries how Jews have been treated before Nazi Germany, but that is a Christian problem unrelated to Arabs, they will not take our problems in history in sympathy regarding Palestine!
 

Monk

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So Question...When did Sir Hubert Samuel take his Oath of Office in Jerusalem regarding the British Mandate?????

Would it be related to 11th September 2001????
 

Monk

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Hi JupiterAsc,

My links to UN are going,

You may not find a link now coming from League of Nations or United Nations....they are screwing me, but use a link associated over google 11th September 1922 with Sir Hubert Samuel in Jerusalem....don't try to bring link to forum, but is it the same as photo below:-
 

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Neptune Rising

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I saw this online today via Yahoo

totally shocking to see 'fake' footage like this and to hear reactions to it ('reactions', no pun intended). But it makes me think, with this upcoming violent potential of Pluto square Uranus, also with Mars (war, aggressive sudden attack with explosive potential) being involved making that into a t-square at various points, as well as Chiron forming sextiles to Pluto (wounding, healing, casualities in mundane situations) I do wonder if this crisis will develop.
 

JUPITERASC

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I saw this online today via Yahoo
totally shocking to see 'fake' footage like this and to hear reactions to it ('reactions', no pun intended). But it makes me think, with this upcoming violent potential of Pluto square Uranus, also with Mars (war, aggressive sudden attack with explosive potential) being involved making that into a t-square at various points, as well as Chiron forming sextiles to Pluto (wounding, healing, casualities in mundane situations) I do wonder if this crisis will develop.
"The stars may impel, but they do not compel" :smile:

The video blatantly demonises Iran
... It is common knowledge that: (a) Iran has not attacked any other country in centuries (b) It was USA who overthrew Iran's democracy in 1953 and installed a dictator. (c ) It was USA who aided Iraq in the 1980s in attacking Iran, by providing Iraq with weapons (including chemical weapons) that were used on Iranians.

For a decade US labelled Iran an evil nation, designating part of Iran's military a terrorist organization, falsely accused Iran of crimes including the attacks of 9/11, murdered Iranian scientists, funded opposition groups in Iran (including some the U.S. also designates as terrorist), flown drones over Iran, openly and illegally threatened to attack Iran, and built up military forces all around Iran's borders, while imposing cruel sanctions on the country.

A 2001 Pentagon memo is described by Wesley Clark as listing Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran for attack. http://warisacrime.org/iran


Neptune Rising, many are of the opinion that we are being deliberately primed for War by videos such as the one you mention (link) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWOwPqJfqkk

The inference is that Israel is somehow 'entitled' to attack Iran 'just in case Iran attacks Israel' - even though Iran has not attacked another country in centuries. QUOTE: “An independent video available on YouTube, 'The Last Day,' shows a realistic depiction of a nuclear attack on Israel by Iran. The film makers added authenticity to the video by making it appear as if ordinary people were using hand-held video cameras during the attack and devastation - following the same trend as the Cloverfield thriller set in the United States.

The five-minute video was directed by Israeli film maker Ronen Barany, and takes place in February 2013 - likely based on projections by the United States and Israel that Iran could produce nuclear weapons within one year. The film ends with a nuclear explosion in Israel and a mushroom cloud that envelops the characters.


Remember, Iran has not attacked another country in centuries :smile:
 

Neptune Rising

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Jupiter, yes I agree the stars may impel..

Well, the media is doing a good job in convincing the masses about the necessity of a war - though this is definately not a necessity but more of a need for control on the part of 'those in power' in the west. Still, they tend to do what they want usually, or at least they have done in the past regardless of public outcry (Iraq war, Afghan war... need I list any more wars?).

The images in that video are now worldwide (except those countries that censor their internets), and they provoke such unconscious fears and panic, the deeply ingrained unconscious fear we all have since the development of nuclear weaponry and potential for their use. I remember when I was in school in the 1980s (uk), we had a few talks on what to do if there was a nuclear attack :p but those images stick and not just in my mind. But, what goes into the media is there for a reason, more likely to prime us for something in the not so distant future. I wonder if this is something to do with Mars rx back to trine with Pluto/Lilith and Jupiter (grand trine). Pluto/Lilith are very much behind the scenes, things may be happening but only to manifest at later time...?

I am curious to see the charts for Isreal and Iran during this Uranus/Pluto square.
 

Monk

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Politics has history, i'm moderate, our little forum can't influence anything on the world stage, we just record history, we are all monks in this, it is what they did with information thoughout history, whatever their superstitions.
 

Monk

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The gift from Netanyhu to Obama seems a pointed gift, link below:-

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...-for-obama-a-pointed-reminder-of-iran-threat/

Book of Esther below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Esther

Under "History" below, Queen Esther Lodge was chartered on 1st December 1874 in Washington D.C.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Eastern_Star

On this day at location, Egyptian sunrise daymarker used, as Sun rose, Sirius was setting.

Graph on attachment you may have to left click on image several times to make larger and clearer.
 

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JUPITERASC

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US sanctions on Iran spark new concern of Persian Gulf violence & oil prices rise - source: Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...for-stimulus/2012/07/12/gJQAPxsaeW_story.html

Currently July 2012 Monk.... the rhetoric is increasingly heated, so I'm focusing on two parans alignment dates you posted January of this year :smile:

Midnight, Sirius I.C...........20th July.


Sirius rising with Sun.....29th July.


All dates are from Tehran, Iran during our era, i would give it a five year margin, i can't see it going beyond that!........
 

JUPITERASC

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MAJOR ISRAELI NEWSPAPER PREDICTS PRE-NOVEMBER STRIKE ON IRAN 61 word quote from notes accompanying videonews report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phWJtOGVazk

“Israeli media says a military strike on Iran could be imminent and could take place in the coming months. Tel Aviv has long threatened to attack, saying international sanctions against the country over its nuclear plans are not enough.

But, as Anastasia Churkina reports, an early use of force by Israel could leave Barack Obama red-faced entering this November's presidential race
:smile:
Sun rises, Sirius M.C......3rd Oct.
Sun rises, Sirius sets......6th Dec.

Sun sets, Sirius I.C.........10th Oct.


Midnight, Sirius rises.........16th Oct.


Alnilam doesn't rise at midnight, it is caught between change of Summer Time.

Midnight, Alnilam M.C.........17th Dec.

Sun rises, Alnilam M.C.........18th Sept.

Sun rises, Alnilam sets........1st Dec.

Sun sets, Alnilam I.C...........13th Sept.


All dates are from Tehran, Iran during our era, i would give it a five year margin, i can't see it going beyond that! Roughly 21 days, by excluding double alignments etc.
Note we have the above 8 days remaining from those roughly 21 days you originally posted Monk
 

JUPITERASC

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Sirius rising with Sun.....
Sun rises, Sirius sets......6th Dec..

Sun sets, Sirius I.C.........10th Oct.


Midnight, Sirius rises.........16th Oct.


Alnilam doesn't rise at midnight, it is caught between change of Summer Time.

Midnight, Alnilam M.C.........17th Dec.


Sun rises, Alnilam sets........1st Dec.


All dates are from Tehran, Iran during our era, i would give it a five year margin, i can't see it going beyond that!

Roughly 21 days, by excluding double alignments etc
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Simply noting that five dates remain Monk! Inspired by the following comments currently in the news - merely 'sabre rattling?' :smile:

“...Iranian General Amir Ali Hajizadeh, Head of the Revolutionary Guard's aerospace division told the Iranian state television that in an event of a war or violent conflict with Israel, in might be pushed to attack U.S. bases, since U.S. is bound to be an obvious ally and aid to Israel.



"For this reason, we will enter a confrontation with both parties and will definitely be at war with American bases should a war break out...There will be no neutral country in the region...To us, these bases are equal to U.S. soil"...
http://www.lawyerherald.com/articles/2127/20120924/iran-will-attack-u-s-base-president.htm
 

!4C

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Mars just passed over the november 13, 2012 total solar eclipse point, which happens to be conjunct Iran's natal uranus.
 

JUPITERASC

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Sun sets, Sirius I.C.........10th Oct.

Midnight, Sirius rises.........16th Oct.

All dates are from Tehran, Iran during our era, i would give it a five year margin, i can't see it going beyond that!
Roughly 21 days, by excluding double alignments etc.
comment by former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates

'...A US or Israeli attack on Iran would “prove catastrophic” and “make a nuclear-armed Iran inevitable,” said former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. Neither United States nor Israel is capable of wiping out Iran’s nuclear capability, Gates said, and “such an attack would make a nuclear-armed Iran inevitable. They would just bury the program deeper and make it more covert.” Not only would Iran be likely to reconstitute its defunct nuclear weapons program, but Tehran might also respond by disrupting world oil traffic in Persian Gulf and launching a wave of terrorism across the region, Gates claimed...'


source:
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/10/04/...astrophic-and-make-a-nuclear-iran-inevitable/:smile:


QUOTE:

“....The results of an American or Israeli military strike on Iran could, in my view, prove catastrophic, haunting us for generations in that part of the world.” Gates was reiterating what has become an emergent consensus within the military and intelligence community in the United States, that a war on Iran – which Israel and many hawks in Congress have been pushing for – would not only be entirely discretionary, but would have disastrous consequences for Iran, the region, and the United States....”
 

!4C

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So now we starve them into chaos. It is the general population that feels the brunt of the sanctions. I wonder what would have the most casualties in the end, military attack on strategic targets or economic sanctions.
 

JUPITERASC

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“Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu AND Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad both delivered two of the most controversial speeches at the latest session of the United Nations General Assembly.

And while the Israeli's speech was aired in full on CNN, the Iranian's address has been ruthlessly cut and the viewers have missed some very important points.


What are the ramifications of this kind of selective reporting? RT's Liz Wahl is joined by Amber Lyon, a three-time Emmy award winning journalist who suggests that sensationalism, hype and downright propaganda is being used to push America into a war with Iran
” 98 word quote sourced from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFDC7zmJgQg:smile:


English with German subtitles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob5UzotRGTM


Truth Hertz - War with Iran since 1953 to Present day WW3 Oct-2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92glt9qCQAE
 
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