Astrologers' Community  

Go Back   Astrologers' Community > General Astrology > Natal Astrology > Aspects & configurations

Aspects & configurations Discuss here about natal chart aspects and configurations.

Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 07-14-2012, 11:11 AM
vox vox is offline
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 71
difference in asc. frequency

I wanted to know more about the difference in frequence between ascendants; Does this have any certain effect on our society, does this create an imbalance of any sort? ...I found the last paragraph of this quote rather apprehensive, to say the least.

Originally Posted by wiki
Long and short ascension

Because the Earth's axis (see axial tilt) is tilted relative to the ecliptic, the twelve signs do not take the same amount of time to cross the eastern horizon. At the equator, there is very little difference (Pisces, Aries, Virgo and Libra take slightly less time than the other signs) but as one moves from the equator, larger and larger differences emerge.

In the northern hemisphere, the signs of Aquarius, Pisces, Aries, Taurus and Gemini take much less time than the theoretical two hours to cross the eastern horizon, whilst the signs of Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio and Sagittarius take much longer than two hours to do so. e.g. at 50° latitude:
  • Pisces, Aries and Gemini take only about fifty-five minutes to cross the eastern horizon (this is referred to as the length of ascension or simply as the sign's ascension)
  • Aquarius and Taurus have an ascension of only about seventy minutes
  • Cancer and Sagittarius have an ascension of around two and a half hours
  • Leo, Virgo, Libra and Scorpio have ascensions of around two hours and forty-five minutes
At higher latitudes, these differences become even more marked. At the latitude of St. Petersburg, Russia:
  • Pisces and Aries ascend in only thirty minutes
  • Aquarius and Taurus ascend in only forty-five minutes
  • Capricorn and Gemini ascend in an hour and a half
    • actually individual degrees near Sagittarius or Cancer ascend twice as slowly as those near Aquarius or Taurus
  • Sagittarius and Cancer ascend in two hours and forty minutes
  • Leo, Virgo, Libra and Scorpio take as much as three hours and fifteen minutes to ascend
In the southern hemisphere, long and short ascension are reversed.

Astrologers consider the differences between the rate at which the signs ascend to be of importance. In many house systems, houses can become very large when they cover Aquarius, Pisces, Aries and Taurus because these signs are seen to be much smaller from the perspective of a northern hemisphere observer.

Some astrologers, such as Richard Nolle, consider the preponderance of Ascendants in signs from Cancer through Sagittarius (known as the western signs) to be symbolic of the highly relationship-oriented character inherent in a complex or civilized society as found today in the northern hemisphere but never developed in equatorial or south temperate latitudes where eastern (Capricorn through Gemini), individual-oriented Ascendants are equally or more common.

Reply With Quote
Unread 07-14-2012, 01:50 PM
Anachiel Anachiel is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1,462
Re: difference in asc. frequency

Statistically, most women go into labor in the afternoon and, more often births occur in the Fall. At least in parts of the USA. This figure varies throughout the world and, especially in light of Western medicine where labor can be induced almost at any time. Holidays, climatic and political changes also influence this frequency.

Interesting, ancient people celebrated Imbolc and Ostara (Jan thru March) as time of beginnings, birth, planting, fertility, etc and in Fall, "reap" the rewards. So, the statistics seem to concur with Fall being a more frequent time for births to occur.

So, in the Fall, in the afternoon, just off the top here, you're seeing more Scorpio thru Pisces ASC in the USA if the statistics hold true.
“You are never alone or helpless. The force that guides the stars guides you too.”~ Shrii Shrii Anandamurt
Reply With Quote
Unread 07-14-2012, 02:14 PM
Judy_AzVirgo Judy_AzVirgo is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 332
Re: difference in asc. frequency

Looks like a bit of Euro-centric thinking to me. I wouldn't say that Australia, most of South America and southern Africa lack complex or civilized societies. Many cultures that Westerners would consider 'primitive' are quite complex, and it's necessary for people to cooperate on some levels in order to have any culture/society/civilization at all.

I'd be more alarmed about doctors (at the convenience of their work schedule) choosing birth times for millions of babies through induced labor. That is interfering with nature. I've wondered whether babies born this way may have some difficulty growing into their natal charts, if the birth time is hours or days away from what nature intended. I realize we play the hand we're dealt, but ... just wondering.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Judy_AzVirgo For This Useful Post:
Anachiel (07-14-2012)

difference, frequency

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Difference between Venus in Aries and Mars in Aries? soratothamax Astrology and Psychology 3 06-23-2012 07:02 PM
What's the difference venus in the soratothamax Dignities & debilities 0 04-04-2012 03:41 AM
What's the difference between the Sun in (a sign) & the rising (of the same sign)? MidnightxPoison Houses & cusps 21 05-29-2009 07:28 PM
Can someone please tell me the difference between Square and Opposition? bbr11 Natal Astrology 3 12-01-2008 04:08 PM
Hexagon on Saturn's North Pole Shocks Scientists & Confirms Astrological Findings Theo Fixed stars, asteroids and other cosmic objects 44 02-06-2008 07:47 PM

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:19 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2005-2018, Boards' structure and all posts are property of and their respective creators. No part of the messages sent on these boards may be copied without their owners' explicit consent.