When will I get a job?

nofate

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I have been facing problems with starting my career. It has reached a stagnation point. When will I get a decent paying job?
 
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nofate

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Dear again, as i wrote you in another post of yours, this is not a horary chart this is your natal. To get an answer to your question you must get a horary chart. See here how to do it:
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8586

Dear Sunrise,
I am so sorry. I am attaching the horary chart I made here. Please do help me with the same. Thank you for your time.
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rafaella

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Dear Sunrise,
I am so sorry. I am attaching the horary chart I made here. Please do help me with the same. Thank you for your time.
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you keep posting natal chart, we don't use natal data at all. For horary the time/date of birth is the birth of the question itself.

e.g. Lets say I live in London and current time is 5:25 pm, a question comes to my mind. will I move to Canada next year?' so I make the chart for todays date 3rd September 2018, and I use the time 5:25pm and my current location London, England....so just like you have a time of birth, a question has its own time of birth.

I hope you understand now. If you didn't then re-read again, you will get it. Also you will see everyone here on horary board are using current dates in 2018.
 

JUPITERASC

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you keep posting natal chart, we don't use natal data at all. For horary the time/date of birth is the birth of the question itself.

e.g. Lets say I live in London and current time is 5:25 pm, a question comes to my mind. will I move to Canada next year?' so I make the chart for todays date 3rd September 2018, and I use the time 5:25pm and my current location London, England....so just like you have a time of birth, a question has its own time of birth.

I hope you understand now. If you didn't then re-read again, you will get it. Also you will see everyone here on horary board are using current dates in 2018.
Reading the following summary
shall assist you with creating an HORARY CHART :smile:
i.e.
because

an HORARY CHART is NOT THE SAME AS YOUR NATAL
and so a good idea to delete your natal chart
and replace with YOUR HORARY QUESTION CHART

The theory behind Horary is very simple:

1) there is a Question that weighs very heavily on your mind.

2) when you have a clear understanding of what it is that you really want to know, you cast a chart or an astrologer casts one for you


3) That freezes the Planets as they transit the heavens
at that moment

(hence: Horary)

4) the Rising Sign and Planet that rules the Rising Sign represents you

5) the House, or often more correctly, the Sign that represents the Matter you're asking about and the Planet that rules that Sign represents the Matter. The Matter can be a person or a thing or an idea (like a rumor or a dream).

6) the relationship between those two rulers tells you what has happened, and what is yet to come. That relationship is in the form of aspects. If there are no aspects, then there is nothing to come.

7) the Moon plays a special dual-role signifying the State of Mind of the Querent and also how things play out, how they happen, and when they happen. When there are no aspects formed by the Moon (ie it is Void of Course) then nothing will happen. Note that there are a handful of certain special select Horary Questions where a Void of Course Moon is not relevant. Those are often war, conflict or legal questions, or Questions related to Career.

8) in addition to forming aspects, those Planets must also have Perfect Reception, as opposed to simple Reception. Reception is about "allowing." For example if Mars is applying in aspect to Jupiter, and Jupiter receives Mars then Jupiter is allowing Mars to act. Jupiter is effectively saying, "Go ahead and do that thing that you do." If Jupiter does not receive Mars, then Jupiter is effectively saying, "Go away and leave me alone. Go. Get out of here." If it is a Sign of Enmity, like Mars in Capricorn (the Fall of Jupiter) then Jupiter is effectively saying, "Cease and Desist. I will stop you from doing anything. If necessary, I may even get violent to stop you." And that just might be the case if Jupiter were also in a Violent Sign, otherwise Jupiter would just keep slamming doors in your face.

9) How things actually play out depends a lot on the "strength" of the Planets involved. The strength of the Planets indicates their ability to do act and do things and carry out plans and make things happen. A Planet that is not just in its own Sign, but also in its Triplicity or Term, and is Direct in Motion, Fast in Speed, Angular or Succedent, in Hayz, in a trine aspect with Venus/Jupiter/Sun is very powerful. That's a person with a purpose in life who has both the will and ability to act and make things happen.

A Planet that is Slow in Speed, Retrograde, in Fall/Detriment, Cadent, and not in Sect or worse is Out-of Sect isn't going to be able to do anything, even when there is Perfect Reception in the chart, this person is going to botch every thing up and turn a dream about ponies and gum-drops into a nightmare, because they don't have the strength or will to make things happen.

10) when charts have early/late Ascendants, Void of Course Moons, Moon via Combusta, Saturn in the 1st or 7th House (when not a significator) you can look at the chart for reasons why you are getting those warnings.

Often a non-significator Planet is making an aspect to one of the primary significators. Sextiles and trines usually indicate on-going events which first must be completed before anything can happen. Conjunctions, squares and opposition usually indicate obstacles that are preventing things from happening, and with the "hard" aspects sometimes things can still happen if those obstacles can be overcome.

The condition and placement of the Moon/Ascendant Ruler will tell you the State of Mind and what kind of person the Querent is; good-hearted, or ambivalent, or in sheer terror, in a total panic, has the "stink of desperation" or is immature and selfish, looking do to harm, or is someone you wouldn't let your dog go near. The Planet that is the Quesited/Matter will tell you about them, but not with the same clarity as the Querent. A poorly placed 10th House Ruler might be a job you really don't want, because it ain't all that or isn't what you think it is. A poorly placed 7th House Ruler is someone you might not really want to be with, or something you don't really want to buy and so on.

For a Planet (like the Ascendant Ruler) in Detriment, it is important that it make an aspect to the 1st House (ie it is not inconjunct in the 2nd, 6th, 8th or 12th Houses), and for other significators that it aspect the House it rules. A Planet that is inconjunct to the House it rules can't witness or give testimony to the affairs of that House. That means it cannot control those events, and being weak in Detriment has even less control and less ability to effect outcomes.
BobZemcos useful Summary of Horary for beginners and more experienced :smile:
 

nofate

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you keep posting natal chart, we don't use natal data at all. For horary the time/date of birth is the birth of the question itself.

e.g. Lets say I live in London and current time is 5:25 pm, a question comes to my mind. will I move to Canada next year?' so I make the chart for todays date 3rd September 2018, and I use the time 5:25pm and my current location London, England....so just like you have a time of birth, a question has its own time of birth.

I hope you understand now. If you didn't then re-read again, you will get it. Also you will see everyone here on horary board are using current dates in 2018.

Hi rafaella,
I'm sorry it took me time to realize that the date of birth and time would be the birth of the question itself. I have made the changes. Is this one okay?
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Sunrise

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I'm sorry it took me time to realize that the date of birth and time would be the birth of the question itself. I have made the changes. Is this one okay?
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congratulations you did it. And yes it is now the right horary chart.
 

Lemmpi

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You have very late ascendant in your chart 29,44 Pisces. Lilly says that a late Ascendant means the querent asks out of despair. Either the answer being already known to the querent or that nothing will come of the matter raised. For example the querent has already asked the question maybe several times or already knows the answer or can’t effect the outcome.

Anyway Chiron is in conjunction to asc so you are feeling pain because of this. Also Saturn (great malefic) is on your career house and in conjunction to Mc. It will slow things down and make you feel depressed :/. I’m just beginner but I don’t see fast changes here. It seems all you can do is wait for better conditions,
 

nofate

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You have very late ascendant in your chart 29,44 Pisces. Lilly says that a late Ascendant means the querent asks out of despair. Either the answer being already known to the querent or that nothing will come of the matter raised. For example the querent has already asked the question maybe several times or already knows the answer or can’t effect the outcome.

Anyway Chiron is in conjunction to asc so you are feeling pain because of this. Also Saturn (great malefic) is on your career house and in conjunction to Mc. It will slow things down and make you feel depressed :/. I’m just beginner but I don’t see fast changes here. It seems all you can do is wait for better conditions,

Hi Lemmpi,
As pessimistic this sounds, I understand and feel exactly the same. I guess I'll just have to wait it out. Thank you for answering my question. Good luck to you :)
 

Sunrise

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Sunrise,
Can you help me now?

Re: When will I get a job?
I have been facing problems with starting my career. It has reached a stagnation point. When will I get a decent paying job?
my dear friend,
if the chart is finally correct and the final one then we have:
We have last degrees in the Ascendant but also MC (10th) (occupational, social recognition).
This shows that surely changes are coming. Something will change ...

I think things will be better and there will surely be opportunities for the near future.
But You have to be patient because the opportunity and the renewal will come when Jupiter enters his own sign and then he will be more comfortable and powerful to do things. This for the distant future.

For now you can try and hunt whatever comes so that you can gradually build what you want in your professional. There will be opportunities.

The Moon where it is in her house of joy and in Saturn's triplicity (professionally), in the detriment of Jupiter (shows us the disappointment you have).

The opportunity (for the near future) is seen from the moon path that will find Venus with a trine and a sextile after Mercury. Venus also collects the light of Mercury and Moon.
Mercury here is in the triplicity of Jupiter.

This tells us that you can have some renewal and improvement of collaborations (7th = collaborations, contracts,) professional (Venus in the exaltation of Saturn), which can bring you some financial "breath" (Venus the Lady of your 2nd house in 7th = collaborations). It may not be what you expect, Mars (the finances and money of others) damages Jupiter (you) but will change position and at least will not be in the fall of Jupiter.

Jupiter, which is the index of professional and foreign (9th) indicator, where it is, does not indicate that you can go now abroad or find something abroad or, ultimately, to benefit you from abroad.

This is seen by the Saturn's antiscion (restrictions and obstacles) from abroad (in the 9th house), which have to do with trade transactions (Saturn = 10th) will not bring the best, the opposite, will hurt you (Opposition Saturn Moon by antiskia ).

Another element for that is also by Jupiter (foreign countries) who is in the fall of the Moon (disappointment).

But in the future you will certainly be able to do it. Not for now.

From the end of the year and the beginning of the new year you will be much better.
Be patient my friend and all my best for you
 

nofate

Well-known member
my dear friend,
if the chart is finally correct and the final one then we have:
We have last degrees in the Ascendant but also MC (10th) (occupational, social recognition).
This shows that surely changes are coming. Something will change ...

I think things will be better and there will surely be opportunities for the near future.
But You have to be patient because the opportunity and the renewal will come when Jupiter enters his own sign and then he will be more comfortable and powerful to do things. This for the distant future.

For now you can try and hunt whatever comes so that you can gradually build what you want in your professional. There will be opportunities.

The Moon where it is in her house of joy and in Saturn's triplicity (professionally), in the detriment of Jupiter (shows us the disappointment you have).

The opportunity (for the near future) is seen from the moon path that will find Venus with a trine and a sextile after Mercury. Venus also collects the light of Mercury and Moon.
Mercury here is in the triplicity of Jupiter.

This tells us that you can have some renewal and improvement of collaborations (7th = collaborations, contracts,) professional (Venus in the exaltation of Saturn), which can bring you some financial "breath" (Venus the Lady of your 2nd house in 7th = collaborations). It may not be what you expect, Mars (the finances and money of others) damages Jupiter (you) but will change position and at least will not be in the fall of Jupiter.

Jupiter, which is the index of professional and foreign (9th) indicator, where it is, does not indicate that you can go now abroad or find something abroad or, ultimately, to benefit you from abroad.

This is seen by the Saturn's antiscion (restrictions and obstacles) from abroad (in the 9th house), which have to do with trade transactions (Saturn = 10th) will not bring the best, the opposite, will hurt you (Opposition Saturn Moon by antiskia ).

Another element for that is also by Jupiter (foreign countries) who is in the fall of the Moon (disappointment).

But in the future you will certainly be able to do it. Not for now.

From the end of the year and the beginning of the new year you will be much better.
Be patient my friend and all my best for you

Dear Sunrise,
I am going to hold on to that thought and be patient. Thank you for answering my question. All the good luck and fortune to you :)
 
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