That's OK, Oddity.
Sleep on it.
I don't see how anyone can make a case that Jesus would, today, be a wealthy neocon who blamed the poor for their problems and favored the rich.
You're talking about crazy Nancy right?
With her over 100 Million dollars she stole from the taxpayer while in Congress for decades?
Or Obama who went into the WH with nothing & now he's worth about 100 Million too.
Beijing Biden? In fact, the entire Biden family has gotten very wealthy thanks to China & the Ukraine.
Same with the Clintons.
China Mitch.
Sure, they 'earned' it. No corruption or criminal activity involved.
Nothing to see here people. Move on.
No, it's about whether Jesus would favor programs that help the poor and disadvantaged. Neocons are against that.
David - Do you believe Jesus would be in favour of how US taxpayers are not only funding abortions in their own country, but around the world, too?
I don't know. Was Jesus explicitly and zealously anti-abortion?
I don't know. Was Jesus explicitly and zealously anti-abortion?
[Actual question. I haven't seen anything about it in Scripture, but, I'm not a Biblical scholar.]
As far as taxpayer's dollars, should pacifists, for example, have to help pay for wars?
Interesting question. We don't have much of anything to go on in the bible. Halachically, it depends on who you follow - though I think Jesus would be likely to be strict on this one. If the mother will die from the pregnancy or birth, abortion is permissible, pretty much mandatory, as the person who's already alive takes precedence. If the child will die young, or has Tay-Sachs then abortion is permissible to the seventh month.
There have been rabbis who held that the fetus is part of the mother, and therefore abortion is fully permissible. Probably not the way Jesus would go - but of course, I could be mistaken here.
Bear in mind that Christians are not bound by Jewish law, and some of their denominations are considerably more strict.
As for pacifism, I agree with you. If you feel that war is totally immoral, if you wouldn't even defend yourself - you should not be forced to fund wars, it would go against your conscience too much.
There's another question: If a law is based solely on religious beliefs, and we live in a country where there's a "separation between Church and State", should the government be allowed to force everyone to obey it whether or not they share those religious beliefs?
The commandment
'Thou shalt not kill'
Blackbery, David can speak for himself but I don't think he intended to focus on specific American political leaders.
I certainly was not trying to politicize the thread in this fashion.
But do you think Jesus would have spoken as you have done? He was critical of the orthodox Jewish clergy of his day, but I don't think he ever verbally assaulted political leaders of his corner of the Roman empire.