BEHOLD Donald Trump - Huffington Post Says He May Be Our Disguised Spiritual Leader
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AppLeo
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The reality is
EVERYONE is providing for the 1%
I've been trying to destroy the state.
Ayn Rand wants to destroy the state, yet you call her psychopathic.
Cap
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You don't have any idea about life in Yugoslavia or about life in socialism for that matter. Yugoslavia was my only true home country even though I experienced it only as a teenager. For me it was a fairy tale country, something unforgettable. A country where everyone had a job, a house, a car, a life. Yugoslavian ''red passport'' was the most valuable passport in the world on the black market, with it one had access into every country in the world. It was nothing like USSR and their ''crony'' socialism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RRnCnO1Y2c
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AppLeo
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No no no. Odd is not authoritarian. I did the silly test.
Oddity, you're almost a left-winger!!!
AppLeo
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So you believe in a voluntary social safety net, but also free market capitalism?
That's good.
Oddity
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Mostly free market, but we've had this discussion before. Caveat emptor isn't enough in some cases.
I also don't find the poor either contemptible or mostly at fault for their own poverty, nor would I deem them unworthy of government assistance (national health, minimum income, etc). Certainly not against private assistance either, but private charities make lots of money - for charities. If you gave that money directly to poor people instead of to bureaucrats, in the US you'd be able to give everyone about $25k per year. So what's the best way to do this?
Things are going to shake up badly again 25 years from now when 60% or so of the jobs we have now will be automated. We're going to have to rethink many things to come through that in one piece.
I also don't find the poor either contemptible or mostly at fault for their own poverty, nor would I deem them unworthy of government assistance (national health, minimum income, etc). Certainly not against private assistance either, but private charities make lots of money - for charities. If you gave that money directly to poor people instead of to bureaucrats, in the US you'd be able to give everyone about $25k per year. So what's the best way to do this?
Things are going to shake up badly again 25 years from now when 60% or so of the jobs we have now will be automated. We're going to have to rethink many things to come through that in one piece.
Cap
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This is my ''political orientation'' according to your test Appleo
There are ideas for economic systems far better than socialism and communism nowadays. I was just saying that in my experience, socialism was 10x better than capitalism.
The whole idea of capitalism is based on materialistic philosophy which is flawed and incorrect. Life should be much more than a market, trading and gambling in the Wall Street. We should organize human society in such way that we don't have to waste a single thought on these insignificant things, simply by taking care of all essential material needs. Only then will a true human potential rise from the ashes of the current capitalistic wasteland. And for this, we don't need a government of any sort.
There are ideas for economic systems far better than socialism and communism nowadays. I was just saying that in my experience, socialism was 10x better than capitalism.
The whole idea of capitalism is based on materialistic philosophy which is flawed and incorrect. Life should be much more than a market, trading and gambling in the Wall Street. We should organize human society in such way that we don't have to waste a single thought on these insignificant things, simply by taking care of all essential material needs. Only then will a true human potential rise from the ashes of the current capitalistic wasteland. And for this, we don't need a government of any sort.
JUPITERASC
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Well said
Without "the poor" forced by poverty into "dirty work"
"the rich" would have to do their own "dirty work"
WHAT MONEY IS & WHY SOME HAVE MORE MONEY THAN OTHERS
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh7eUU5Ro4U[/FONT]
Quite.
for example
Warren Buffet gave $37 BILLION
to his great pal Bill Gates "Charity Foundation"
Automation in car factories already has put multiple workers on the unemployment register
most cars are made almost completely by robots
Soon five million US truck drivers face unemployment when driverless trucks take their jobs as well
Self checkouts at supermarkets
Online shopping is on the increase as well
We could reduce the working week by five hours
for everyone whose job has not been grabbed by a robot
pay the same wage for that job despite a reduction of hours
and then
re-employ those made redundant by robots - such as those five million truck drivers
to take up those hours of work made available when working week reduced by five hours
for example
A British company has shortened its working day from eight hours to six
inspired by a Scandinavian model
aimed at boosting wellbeing and efficiency.
Workers at Liverpool-based Agent Marketing say they feel more “refreshed” and “energised”
since the work day was reduced, though some admit it felt “strange” to start with.
The company is trialling having a shorter day in December and January,
Its staff, who usually work from 8:30am until 5.30pm
have swapped this for 9am until 4pm day with a mandatory one-hour lunch break
where they have to leave their desks.
Cap
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Well said
Without "the poor" forced by poverty into "dirty work"
"the rich" would have to do their own "dirty work"
WHAT MONEY IS & WHY SOME HAVE MORE MONEY THAN OTHERS
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh7eUU5Ro4U[/FONT]
Quite.
for example
Warren Buffet gave $37 BILLION
to his great pal Bill Gates "Charity Foundation"
Automation in car factories already has put multiple workers on the unemployment register
most cars are made almost completely by robots
Soon five million US truck drivers face unemployment when driverless trucks take their jobs as well
Self checkouts at supermarkets
Online shopping is on the increase as well
We could reduce the working week by five hours
for everyone whose job has not been grabbed by a robot
pay the same wage for that job despite a reduction of hours
and then
re-employ those made redundant by robots - such as those five million truck drivers
to take up those hours of work made available when working week reduced by five hours
for example
A British company has shortened its working day from eight hours to six
inspired by a Scandinavian model
aimed at boosting wellbeing and efficiency.
Workers at Liverpool-based Agent Marketing say they feel more “refreshed” and “energised”
since the work day was reduced, though some admit it felt “strange” to start with.
The company is trialling having a shorter day in December and January,
Its staff, who usually work from 8:30am until 5.30pm
have swapped this for 9am until 4pm day with a mandatory one-hour lunch break
where they have to leave their desks.
It is important to have in mind that this is just the beginning of something completely new on this planet - a transition period. There will inevitably come the time when the working week will be shortened to zero hours.
Then what?
AppLeo
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Well, you're definitely not a libertarian. Government assistance is an authoritarian philosophy. A social safety net provided by government is an attack on individual rights and liberty. People decide what they do with their money, not elected leaders in office.
People should give money literally right to the person, not through an organization.
Those people can just cease to exist.
Cap
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Oddity
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And if you're one of those people, you will have no qualms taking that advice?
david starling
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AppLeo
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What existence is worth living if you're a burden to society and can't support yourself??
Just let me die at that point. I wouldn't mind because I would have nothing to live for anyway.
Cap
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And what if you are part of society that is self sustainable and doesn't require your contribution even though it supports all individuals unquestionably?
There are countless things you can do with your life besides going to work from 9 to 5 like a robot. There will be real robots for this task very soon.