Dear Frisiangal!
Wow again. You sure hit the nail on the head and my friend will surely thank you for the uplifting information this time around. I have been telling her that there are always more than one way to skin a cat
. Also, please bear with me as I may goof on how the quotes go. I am new to the system here and may not get it quite right at the first go! (I just saw that the quotes don't work (actually, I haven't figured it out) so I'll just put some asterixes before your quotations! My comments are by the little green-faced guy
***Yet I have an old text book, but one of several astro. bibles I consult regularly, in which is written that a sextile aspect will show its potential when the harsh aspects in the chart have been dealt with. What is in the chart? An almost exact positive sextile aspect between Mercury and Jupiter that, by co-incidence, are not only the rulers of the houses pertaining to physical conditions but also with Mercury ruling the 9th house, that has strongly been observed to be associated with good health and well-being.
For me, such an aspect is the gateway that can open towards a path to good health.
Cool - she'll be so happy to hear that.
***A Mercury in Leo can be very set (fixed sign) in the way it thinks, especially about itself
. But what if, in youth, a person was not allowed to think for itself? There is a close tension aspect between Mercury and Saturn...the outer authority.
Deeana is trying to convert others to her way of thinking quite often. She means well, but others are not necessarily at the same stage of life where she finds herself. So that explains that. Also, she confided in me that her childhood was very traumatic. Her father physically, mentally, emotionally and sexually abused her and I had been worried about the after-effects of that. Her mother was an alcoholic. No wonder her self-worth is suppressed. I am in the Psychology field and know about the connections between illness and abuse, but some patients need to see it in black before they can take responsibility and pull themselves out of the hole. I think your explanation will do the trick. Thank you so much!
***In Pisces one could undergo a form of Saturnal doctrine by which one could be taught to think in a very inferior manner about one'self. Children should obey, be silent, be seen but not heard, for instance, and pay the price for the sins placed upon them by their elders. I have seen charts where such conditioning has led to a total disassociation from/dysfunctioning in the physical world, as escapism into a 'fantasy world' takes over.
There is some dissociation in her case (no dysfunctioning), but she has withdrawn from much of life and become almost a mystic. Very spiritually inclined, sensitive and wise, she supports and helps others, especially in matters pertaining to death. I dealt with her on a case where a child died suddenly and she was a pillar of strength and support. 8th house stuff at it's best. I am still looking for a planetary position that would explain a case of MCS or Multiple Chemical Sensitivities. I guess that would classify as a withdrawal from society, if the patient becomes too "allergic" to the rest of the world. Perhaps it is that which is the underlying cause of her difficulties?
***Your friend has a grand trine in water, which suggests the ease of an emotional rather than physical escape from the reality that engulfed her. Maybe her greatest improvement can occur when she stops carrying the burden of guilt(Saturn) placed upon her with which she lives, that weakens her and makes her so very tired (of life?)
I believe her case to be one of great fatigue and pain due to the many burdens placed on her. She has a chronically ill husband, she raised 3 stepchildren and had to deal with a crazy ex-wive amongst many other things. Basically life has not been good to her and she has not had many successes, yet she has grown very much spiritually from the adversity. I met her through a healers group and she is a very intuitive Reiki Master, who is very astute at picking up energy. An empath I would say, perhaps even Indigo because of her intelligence. The other astrologer told her that she also carries her sick husband energetically, which I think in this case is the crux of the matter. She can probably do better and is thinking of extricating herself from a very difficult relationship - one that has been a draw for a long time, but one she could not get away from due to her own health problems. It is a very complex case of dependency and I was curious to see how it would untangle and what you said makes perfect sense.
***The Jupiter to Mercury aspect is an excellent manner to do so because it encourages positive thinking in acknowledging the good that is inherent in her. She has an active and creative mind, which she should use to it best advantage in ridding herself of all negativism. Sagittarius rising is more than enough to recognise "I
am a good person'
Too funny, because she told me the story about how she met a medium once and through the medium her grandmother's uncle, who was a famous astrologer in Germany before the war, came through and told her only the few words: "Positive self-talk only!". I think that sums it up for her. How very fitting.
***The thoughts(Mercury) placed by others (8th house) that one is not personally worth loving(Venus), which then become one's own thoughts and weakens(Neptune) the mind? Venus-Neptune is a classic for disappointments in loving relationships because one is inclined to view them with eyes wide shut.
Yes, she did jump into her marriage with eyes wide shut, but they are now wide open.
***Yet Mercury-Venus is valid as the most thoughful and loving of aspects and it is in her....if not so is others. Maybe the desire to be loved by others should first be applied as love for herself ? This could stabilise the hormone imbalance, which seems to be more Venusian than Martian of nature. The 'invaders' are the Neptunian emotions that take hold of her regarding her ability to be loved.
The other astrologer's view was that the hormone imbalance was inherited from her mother. The Neptunian invader is the father, because the invasion took place on all levels and had a demoralizing effect and created fear. I read in a book on Chiron by Barbara Hand Clow that Chiron in Pisces leaves you open to "Neptunian sticky stuff" and wondered if that has anything to do with the roaming pains so many fibro-patients exhibit? It is an interesting concept worth exploring and I am looking for more cases that involve this position.
***Saturn represents the past; Uranus represents the change from the past.
It is not possible to change what has already happened in her life, yet it IS possible to change the manner she looks back at it. This could be her breakthrough, especially as her natal Mercury has finally returned to its birth position to influence Jupiter, her positive state of mind and her good health.
She appears to be in exactly that state. We talked about it often at how my sense was that with some internal adjustments these "health problems" could be licked. This is the kind of information I am looking for to include in my book. I feel that many people could heal themselves if they understood their behavior. And I especially like to target the harder to diagnose categories.
***Incidentally, classical homeopathy comes under Saturn-Uranus relationships, so this can be helpful. Yet the change will have to come from within and through herself.
Yes, I get that sense as well. It is not easy to be a bystander and to comprehend the clients case, but then to have to wait for the client to have their own lightbulb moment. She will have to muster the strength to stand on her own 2 feet and to love herself! And I think she is working on just that! It will be nice to see a case successfully healed.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INSIGHTFUL AND POSITIVE HELP.
I am sure Deeana will be grateful.
With gratitude for YOUR wisdom,
cancersoul