Is there any serious relationship in my destiny?

Hello, everyone! I have this question about relationships and love in my life. Is there any in my destiny? The thing is that I hadn't yet . OK, I had some unserious or short time relationships and a lot of dates but that's all. I had weird childhood and adolescence by being abused by boys and having bad relationship with my father which I think caused very careful attitude toward men. I have been in love just once but that wasn't possible. Now there is developing some relationship if I can call them like that because that's not like usual. We met in internet and encautered in reality just once but still chatting and hoping to meet again. We are living in different countries and I don't know how real it is. Neptune is transiting my 7th house (illlusions?) but this planet there will be very long time. My 7th house is in aquarius which rules uranus in 5th house in saggitarius. Is there something to do with that? Maybe there is some other aspects? I would really appreciate if someone would take a look in my chart and could tell something about relationships in my destiny.
 

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miquar

Well-known member
Hi. It's not surprising that you found foreign love through the internet - because of that Uranus (ruling 7th) in the 5th house being trined by the exact Mercury Venus conjunction in the 9th. With Neptune in the 5th, you might be prone to being unrealistic about romantic encounters, especially with Sun square Neptune.

Another reason why you might engage in wishful thinking around relationships is that there seems to be fear of abandonement reflected in this chart (Pluto on the IC, Moon in Cancer, Saturn in the 4th house.)

There's little doubt that you will have serious relationships in your life - we all tend to. But emotional hunger can undermine enjoyment of them if not understood and if it is not nourished to some extent by oneself.

I think that with T Pluto and T Uranus aspecting your 5th house Neptune and also T Pluto sextile Pluto, this guy is perhaps triggering deep yearnings for intimacy.

From early September to mid October transiting Saturn will be opposite your Mercury Venus and square your Moon. If things still right after this transit, then it is likely that you have something with this guy that you can build upon. But astrology obviously can't tell you how long it might last.

Adventure and relationship will perhaps tend to go hand in hand for you, but that doesn't mean that you can't have serious relationships.
 
Thanks for your insight, Miquar.

I'm quite new to astrology, so I can look at several planets or aspects but there's some difficulty put these things together.

Yeah, Uranus is my relationship ruler which is in Saggitarius and Venus - the lord of relationships, are in 9th house. That show's that theres pretty big possibility of relationships with foreign people.

Yeah, that's true about that Pluto and Saturn impact in my chart because loneliness is that thing which I'm fear the most, I don't know why.

Talking about that Uranus - that gives some weirdness, suddenness. Those things gives me a little bit stress about serious relationships because that can show very adventurous and short relationships. And about that Neptune - omg. I red one article about 8 house ruler in fifth - that means that someone would take away from me kids, if I would ever have them ? I guess there's some other explanations too.

How about my Venus in aries? I have heard that's kin'da weak possition. What that could mean?
 

miquar

Well-known member
Hi. Predictions like the one about your kids being taken away don't really hold water as far as I'm concerned. There are lots of ways that Neptune in the 5th can work out, whether or not it rules the 8th.

Venus in Aries can have a certain tension because Venus is the urge to relate and Aries is concerned with the individual's expression of potency regardless of the reactions of others. So one problem with Venus in Aries is that it can be difficult to relax into a relationship with someone without fearing that you'll lose your autonomy. But on the other hand Venus in Libra can be too yielding in relationship for the sake of harmony. Every planet-in-sign placement has its paradoxes or over-emphases that have to be worked with to find the right balance.

Venus in Aries is about feeling good about oneself by being in touch with a sense of initiative and daring. Your Venus might well be very happy in Aries because fire is your strongest element, and so probably an element you are well adapted to. So you can get in touch with that sense of initiative and Venus can fulfil its role in your life.

I never use the idea of planets being combust - its just a conjunction to me, and how it figures in someone's life is down to the planets involved, aspects from the conjunction to other planets, the general feel of the chart, etc. In any case, your very close Mercury Venus conjunction is probably much more influential than the wide conjunctions from the Sun.

Mercury conjunct Venus in Aries in the 9th house, in a fiery chart, feels very lively and explorative. The square from the Moon in Cancer may bring feelings of uncertainty, and perhaps also a need to talk about feelings, but maybe ambivalence about this too. Its not the most objective aspect pattern one could imagine, but certainly passionate and imaginative.
 
Oh, and that Venus and mercury are retrogrades burned by sun (those conjunctions) . How bad or good it is?
not great as the energy tends to go inwards before coming out to express..

Retrograde planets
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22923
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-retrograde.htm
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5796&postcount=8
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5861&postcount=10
Pluto retrograde in scorpio above
http://karma.astrology.com/pastlife.html

Mercury Retrograde
* reconsiders before speaking
* lots of inner conversation and thoughts
* expresses self better in writing
* feels misunderstood


I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment…..

This is a 'stellium' in aries BUT in Equal house they are all in 8th house

In modern astrology it's not that bad, but Traditional astrologers say it's not great.
stelliums in houses
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080418162943AA1TzLE
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/stellium_grandquintile.shtml
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33102
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/a-few-last-insights-into-stelliums-from-readers/

your moon domicile in cancer is conjunct 12th house cusp and challenging your stellium. this shows difficulties with mother, women and relationships. 12th Moon can suggest either emotionally neglected or smother loved.

Your jupiter is a singleton, ie: only planet in air element which your chart lacks. There is a lot of fire energy planets and water. The lack of air tends towards sweeping statement syndrome,without enough thought put behind words, or using words to get a reaction, rise or hurt others..

Sun square moon shows divorced parents. So ruler of 7th (marriage house) is posited in 4th (equal house) and this shows you want partners to be fully involved with family matters. 5th house of romance indicates

Ruler of the Fifth House in the Sixth House
You are creative and goal oriented in your work. You are in love with your work or the work ethic and perhaps children have a bearing on the work you do. You either are, or you would like to be, the one who really stands out as exceptional at the work you do.
Much of your social life may take place in and around the work environment.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr5

Neptune in 5th House – succeedent house
Unconscious desire for love and appreciation through romance and creative expression. May have artistic talents. Especially to do with music, children, or the stock markets. Ability to play a role. Love of theatre. Very sympathetic. ­intuition strong here. This house describes love affairs and children. Romance over‑idealise. love at first sight. Romance seen through ­rose‑tinted glasses! Did you have gas and air or ­anesthetic during childbirth?
Artistic/creative children, secretive children, depending on aspects. Private enterprise ‑ beware the dangling carrot, be very wary of.


relationship sticky
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28945
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=254409&postcount=9

Unfortunately, there is no set formula or signature for marriage or childbirth, although others may disagree, apparently horary and vedic seem confident in this area. There are indicators and potential as there would be with natal, solar return chart but guarantees -- (post 2 & 3 below)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=207744#post207744
 
Currently, transiting Saturn is in libra, challenging your SUN and next year your aries stellium, so I would wait until the worst is over before pushing, socialising and romance.

Saturn tends to be hard work, delays, limitations and when it opposed/hard aspects to venus you end up feeling unloved, financial short and wanting to withdraw from socialising. What saturn is doing is really 'testing what is of value to you.' What is working and what it not...

long distance relationships are very hard to maintain, because realistically one has to move/relocate to make things work..

long distance relationships
http://www.barbaradeangelis.com/advice_compatibility.asp#7

soulmate connections
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/soulmateastrology.html
http://www.synastry.us/soulmate_indicators.asp
http://www.ehow.com/video_4438856_soul-mates-astrology.html
“The heart of an astrological chart according to esoteric astrology are the moon's nodes, or points where the moon intercepts the earth's orbit around the sun. Your nodes diametrically oppose one another. So if your south node is in Capricorn, your north node would be in the opposite sign of Cancer and your soul's path would be moving from masculine, earthy Capricorn energies, into light, feminine Cancer”.
http://www.the-soulmate-site.com/astrological-soulmate.html
http://thezodiac.com/soulmates2.htm

http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/sexualattractionastrology.html

The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott
http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm
http://mysticmedusa.com/2009/03/the-eerie-8th-house/

 
Thanks for your insight, Miquar.

I'm quite new to astrology, so I can look at several planets or aspects but there's some difficulty put these things together.

Yeah, Uranus is my relationship ruler which is in Saggitarius and Venus - the lord of relationships, are in 9th house. That show's that theres pretty big possibility of relationships with foreign people.

Yeah, that's true about that Pluto and Saturn impact in my chart because loneliness is that thing which I'm fear the most, I don't know why.

Talking about that Uranus - that gives some weirdness, suddenness. Those things gives me a little bit stress about serious relationships because that can show very adventurous and short relationships. And about that Neptune - omg. I red one article about 8 house ruler in fifth - that means that someone would take away from me kids, if I would ever have them ? I guess there's some other explanations too.

How about my Venus in aries? I have heard that's kin'da weak possition. What that could mean?
I suggest you frequent more reputable astrological website instead of the claptrap you have read.

Now pisces/neptune rules 8th house (Equal house) and is placed in 5th

Ruler of the Eighth House in the Fifth House
Your dreams can manifest as creative abilities. A major transformation towards your approach to life can be stimulated by your children or children in general. You have intense feelings about love and you could have a deeply intimate bonding experience with a lover.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr8

Uranus is well aspected with lovely trines, what you are getting worked up about. the only slight challenge is moon quincunx Uranus

Your moon square venus can suggest that who you are attracted may not always fulfill you emotionally and vice versa...

Moon square venus
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=208077&postcount=1
 

miquar

Well-known member
Hi Body Soul Mind. I just wanted to offer a few bits of reassurance in the light of the last few posts. Retrograde planets can be just as 'great' as direct planets. Its just a question of understanding that they tend to need to reflect on things before expressing outwardly, which can obviously be a very good thing. In a fiery chart it can mitigate possible impulsive tendencies, and also vitalise the imagination, especially with something like Mercury retrograde conjunct Venus retrograde in a fiery sign and house.

I would be aware of taking anything on board that comes from a book or the internet, especially disjointed interpretations like you would expect to see in an astrology 'cook book' or a list of separate sentences about this placement or that on a forum like this, though they can provide food for thought.

As for avoiding social interactions while transiting Saturn opposes your Mercury Venus conjunction over the Autumn (not next year as stated in an above post), I would just feel your way along. It could be that you establish some very sound connections with people who help you to release your 9th house potentials. If the transit manifests as a sense of isolation and frustration, then I guess that is where you need to be in order to further get in touch with your potential. But since one of the dangers with Saturn is holding oneself back through over-caution or pessimism, I would encourage you to enter into this time with an open mind.
 
Thanks for your insight too, Astrologer50! Your bullet of Saggitarius has catched me from the first day when I found this forum. Thanks for those nice links of information.
One question - what kind of things are better using equal house system then placidus?
Interesting wiev about my chart in equal house system where that stellium of Sun, Venus and Mercury are in 8th house. Maybe there is a little bit truth because I always been interested in esotheric things and how could I been interested in astrology? Yeah, sometimes I think about death but who doesn't? I couldn't tell that I'm obsessed with death, other people money or sex. But if we take that I have stellium in 9th house, I can tell that I love talk and think about philosophical things, I believe in God but I'm still non religius (maybe 8th house?). I love travelling and other cultures. Truth is that I don't have so much money and time to do that often. I have to tell that I still don't have full higher education which rules 9th house. I studied psychology but for some reasons I quited. Thinking about new opurtunities how to get a higher education because without that I feel incomplete. Maybe that's pressure from society, I don't know. Of course, there's many levels of those houses things which somehow astrologers can find out.

Your moon domicile in cancer is conjunct 12th house cusp and challenging your stellium. this shows difficulties with mother, women and relationships. 12th Moon can suggest either emotionally neglected or smother loved.

Your jupiter is a singleton, ie: only planet in air element which your chart lacks. There is a lot of fire energy planets and water. The lack of air tends towards sweeping statement syndrome,without enough thought put behind words, or using words to get a reaction, rise or hurt others..

Sun square moon shows divorced parents. So ruler of 7th (marriage house) is posited in 4th (equal house) and this shows you want partners to be fully involved with family matters. 5th house of romance indicates

About possition and squares of Moon there should be other explanation because my relationships with women are almost perfect but with men not so. Interesting, why is that? I have wonderful relationships with my mother. We are like friends. All of my friends are women but very few men. I can tell otherwise that I have bad relationships with my father which I try to correct and it gets better. Talking about :sun::square::moon: - my parents are still married. There shoud be another explanation. :moon: squares :venus: and :mercury: too and I have red that this combination could make inward contraddictions which can disturb your life a little bit.
It's true about lack of air in my chart because I'm rather good listener than a talker but still with my quietness I'm very straightforward and a little untactful by telling others what I think which cause fire.

Talking about TR Saturn opposite Sun, Venus and Mercurry, I can feel this testing very well because it's not my best time of life. It asks from me change attitude toward other people and if I'm doing something like before then relationships and other opportunities which involves other persons gets worse.

:moon::square::venus:inpact on me is symilar as your suggested thread http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=208077&postcount=1 but a little bit different. Long time I was waiting to meet the one. I was dating many guys but they seemed like they aren't fit for me. So, I decided if theres no guy ment for me then I will have sex with sexy and beautiful ones. Turns out, I'm getting to know nature of men from other side. Like I mentioned, that I was abused from boys in childhood and adolescence, those wounds maked me afraid from relationship with men, I think. Yes, I had father, but still I didn't knew nature of men or felt that from bad side. So in a very unusual way step by step I understand that relationships with men are quite nice and not so hurtful. Maybe there's something to do with Pluto or 8th house in equal house system?
 
Hello, Miquar! Thanks for your good insight again and encouragement about that transiting Saturn time which I feel kin'da powerful right now. You are somehow right about :saturn::opposition::sun::venus::mercury: you said. My life time is not so good this time. I lost my job, some difficulties shows up on relationships with some of my friends and other people. I think, that Saturn tests my attitude toward other people. That asks change my attitudes because if I'm doing things like before situation gets worse. Thank God, those situations are like that I can do about that. Make those things better. I started to interact with foreign people more than before in my life. Not only that guy from the internet but in real life too. I had my first foreign trip too. All of that makes me think deeper about culture and life in other countries and makes me interested in languages which I wasn't before. Next thing is that all of my friends has degrees of higher education which I lack because I quited for some reasons. Actually those thought how to get a degree in my mind shows up very often because somehow I feel incomplete without that and to get that degree on my situation is not so easy. But still, I can study by myself too. And when that time will come my studies would be easier. I try to think like that.
 
your moon domicile in cancer is conjunct 12th house cusp and challenging your stellium. this shows difficulties with mother, women and relationships. 12th Moon can suggest either emotionally neglected or smother loved.
So would you consider your mother over protective, or smother loved?

One question - what kind of things are better using equal house system then placidus?
It's all about planets possibly moving houses, and a process of deduction and research you should be able to identify where you planets are.. for example in placidus my own chart would move my stellium two full houses, which simply not me...

About possition and squares of Moon there should be other explanation because my relationships with women are almost perfect but with men not so. Interesting, why is that? I have wonderful relationships with my mother. We are like friends. All of my friends are women but very few men. I can tell otherwise that I have bad relationships with my father which I try to correct and it gets better. Talking about :sun::square::moon: - my parents are still married.
Of course there are *other meanings* to aspects, just do the research

:sun::square::moon: shows conflict in certain areas. Self-expression is blocked by emotional hangups or habit patterns that may be inherited or conditioned by past events. Family and domestic affairs keep you from developing the way you would like. The conditions in your early family environment may have caused difficulties in understanding and getting along with the opposite sex. In these relationships you can be too argumentative and defensive. You may need to get the chip off your shoulder sometimes. This aspect suggests a conflict between the ego and the emotions. There is a presence of tension between outer/inner self
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html#susmo

Natal chart aspects
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_astrology
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects
http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Special:prefixindex/category:
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm
http://www.theastrologicalaspects.com/
http://www.strangehouse.com/natal-aspects/index.php

planets in houses
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house
 
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I was abused from boys in childhood and adolescence, those wounds maked me afraid from relationship with men, I think
I think this can be seen by Pluto tightly conj IC/home roots and the opposition to mars

Ruler of the First House in the Eighth House
You may have a lot of curiosity about the so-called mysteries of life such as occult practices and other metaphysical studies. You can develop your psychic abilities or perhaps you are more drawn to the healing potential found in the eighth house.
You'll likely have an important experience that transforms your life approach in a major way. Whatever it is, you'll emerge more evolved at a very deep level of your being. Other people's resources, such as a spouse's money, or an inheritance, could play a significant role in your life somehow
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http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr1
 
Ruler of the First House in the Ninth House
You have a strong interest in broadening your mental experiences, perhaps through higher education, exploring different philosophies of life, or even through developing your own ideas about what makes the universe tick. Be ready to do some long distance traveling during your life. It's in the stars.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr1

See which one you identify with
 
So would you consider your mother over protective, or smother loved?

Not at all! She's not cold or over protective or smother loved. She's normal mother as it should be. We have very good relationships. She always was there when i needed her. She gave me freedom to understand by myself what's good and what's bad. Our relationship always have been like friends. Maybe that indication of :moon::square::sun: is hiding in my early childhood when my mother had to work very much and I had her attention pretty little as it should be on those early ages. Still, my relationship is excellent with my mum. That explanation about difficulty to understand men nature was right.
 
I'm a little bit confused about those houses things where my sun exactly is. I kin'da fit both. Actually, as I remember myself I have been interested in esoteric things. Was reading books about those things. I always had very good intuition. Many people has told me that I can understand many life aspects even without experience. I hope that I never would be dependent from others money. It would make me feel very weird because I love to be independent somehow. One time funny thing happened with me in chuch when I shared my opinions about God and priest wife stasted to ask me if I have some witches or healers in my family which I don't have. I always loved philosofical talks about things on the world. It'svery interesting to know something about other cultures. Getting higher education is very important thing for me and I'm working to figure out how to get an opurtunity to study again. So, I think I fit to 8th and 9th house too. Both. Very interesting thing how your chart changes when you change house system. But that about my 7th house ruler uranus being in 4th house it's not right. I always try to my potentional parners out of my family matters. My family is family and partner is partner.
 
Hi :)

I will go straight with answering your question, and I must apologize to others who posted before me here because I really don't have time to read all the post.

First I want to tell you about your concern about Neptune being in your 7th.
The effects of planets entering new house by transit are most effective in the beginning, in the first degrees of the house, which does not mean that they loose the effect later, but you are experiencing those energies the most in the first degrees of the house cusp.
Neptune is natally in your 5th so Neptune transiting your 7th house is also affecting your 5th house.

Sagittarius is on the cusp of your 5th house and its ruler Jupiter is in the 6th. This shows that in relation to romances you want to find someone with whom you can talk, with whom you can share your life philosophies and maybe someone who is in your work environment?! But Sagittarius has another vice in it, and that is not being able to make a commitment because of his desire for adventures life, to be free in the horizon looking at the endless sky. And all this is in relation to the romances and how you enjoy the joy of life, because the 5th house is the house of Joy - how we enjoy the life.
So maybe you should ponder deeply into these questions, meditate upon them. Do not search the answer always from outside, it is within!

About the issues with your father and childhood. Your 4th house cusp is in Scorpio and your South node is there. There are Deep Emotions in it.
Pluto is on your IC. This is very, very Important! The angles are full with Power. Can you imagine, the planet of Power in the angle full of Power. There is deep instinctive memory in this Pluto! Much in your life would depend on how well you'll handle this Pluto, or to say it better, how much will you allow/surrender Pluto to handle you.
You can't fight with this Pluto, you can only surrender to it.
There are a lot of possibilities with this Pluto: violent childhood, violent past life or maybe just an unhappy memories from the past.
Remember that the 4th house is the House of Memory. Much of what is happening here is very Instinctive and in most of the cases what we can do best is to Observe, not to fight against.
This Pluto can bring enormous transformation, and probably will eventually.
It brings important evolutionary lesson in this phase of your growth.
You have enormous gift of looking into your own and the psyche of the people around you.

About your romantic life, it is closely related with your sense of emotional security and well being. The 5th house is naturally following the 4th and in 4th you have much happening and lessons that you need to resolve.
The emotional intensity and the Intense Strong Feelings that you have are felt like 'threatening' by your potential partners, not so many people have strong feelings, especially not in the start of the relationship. With Pluto on IC these inner volcano of powerful feelings can be immediately felt by the sensitive souls.
You need to work on this, to embrace everything which emerge from the past in your psyche. To resolve the conflicts of the memories that you're holding.

Another point is Saturn in Scorpio. Saturn in Scorpio can be manifested as repression of the sexuality and sexual desires. You're maybe feared that you can be seen less in the man's eyes if you give your self to him. But this will not be true if you find the real one, and the opinion of the bad personalities is not worth bothering at all.
I also have Pluto and Saturn in Scorpio and I know from experience how Rigid they 2 can be. You need to learn to make your will stronger by making it not Rigid, but more Flexible. You need to learn detachment and let go in certain areas in your life and this will result in bettering of your love life also.

What happened to you last year when Pluto Transit sextile your natal Pluto?
Pluto by transit is now at your 5th house and this is very important. It is not a matter of coincidence that you are starting to think about your love life in this period. Pluto is opening something to you, so open your self, be prepared.

Remember to follow the Pluto because it is holding one of the biggest potentials and lessons in your chart.
 
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