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I want to know what are the psychological differences between Cancer and Pisces?

And if's possible too, between Cancer and Leo... (they are both generous, loving, sympathetic, Leo when reject can also get cold, both like attention, both are jealous and possessive... right? What are the DIFFERENCES? Is Leo NEVER shy for example?


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Re: Differences between Cancer and Pisces?

cancer is offensive
pisces defensive
cancer is more superficial than pisces
pisces has a better intuition
pisces is more creative esp in music
pisces is spheric
cancer is cooking
pisces is drinking
cancer is dominant and opportun
pisces is friendly
cancer is traditional and conservative
pisces is open to everything
pisces is chaotic
cancer is not scientific
pisces are intelligent
cancer is the most unconscious sign of the zodiac
pisces are afraid
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Cancer and Leo?
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Oh yeah, tiger come and get me...

And as a leo I have to say... Yes leos can also be shy, depends probably also on their Ascendent and whole family- and life-story. But in private situations I would say, they are never ever shy or quiet (or at least in 99.9 %?!).

PS: What actually means unconscious? I know the word, but in other words?
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Re: Differences between Cancer and Pisces?

Which ascendant is:

always smiling,
but quiet
When meet new people: first shy, always listening and observing, trying to figure out if the person shows superficiality or deepness... and if the persons are sympathetic and outgoing he'll talks alot... but when persons are shy too, he stays in his ground.
Seems inocent and maybe dumb, but inside very smart
Don't like to talk about his conquers, even when he knows he is the best, he always shows modesty and humbleness.
Get hurt very easily, with critics and distant behavior,
With strangers or with people he's not confident around, he can "lie" to be just kind/polite. He hates hurting someone.
But with family and close friends, he's very honest and frontal.
When hurt, can get very agressive
Is very anxious, and have very pessimistics toughts
Dreams about being a parent and have a home...
Impulsive....
A bit nostalgic and depressive...
Don't search being the center of attention, but likes when it happens.
Has a strong bond with his mom

What ascendant could be a person like this?

My moon is in Pisces, but I'm not sure if these traits of my personality came from my moon sign or not? Is this sound like pisces? Or sounds like another one?
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Re: Differences between Cancer and Pisces?

Raquel, apart from one small detail, you've just described me, to a point that is almost scary. Plus, you share my name. How cool is that? =P

I'm a Pisces (sun) and Cancer ascendant. So I'm not really helping here... lol
Or maybe I am. Maybe I just answered your question?
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Raquel, apart from one small detail, you've just described me, to a point that is almost scary. Plus, you share my name. How cool is that? =P

I'm a Pisces (sun) and Cancer ascendant. So I'm not really helping here... lol
Or maybe I am. Maybe I just answered your question?

I'm not sure of my ascendant... I'm between cancer and leo.. I'm just sure of my moon in pisces...:S but yeah, maybe my truth rising is cancer...
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Hello everyone,
I want to know what are the psychological differences between Cancer and Pisces?

And if's possible too, between Cancer and Leo... (they are both generous, loving, sympathetic, Leo when reject can also get cold, both like attention, both are jealous and possessive... right? What are the DIFFERENCES? Is Leo NEVER shy for example?

All water signs can be sulky and moody
cancer is family orientated, shrewd in business but tight. Cancer is a 'worrier' (so is virgo)

pisces is a dreamer, fantasizer,
restless, procrastinating and indecisive, (same as gemini and libra)

Leo is sociable, extrovert, bossy, well organised, controlling, do anything for anybody provided it's *centre of attention* can be arrogant, too much pride, liable to tantrums/drama queeens.

massive difference bewteen Leo and Cancer. What you need to remember is there are 10planets in a natal chart, which could be in any one of 12houses. You are not the sum total of your sun sign, mercury can only be upto one sign away from your sun sign, and venus can only be upto two signs away from your sun sign.

Planets are modified by signs, where they express are houses and how they express are *aspects*

Now, if your sun is conjunct one of the 'outers' ie: Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto then your sun will be strongly afflicted by this influence and will take on the outer planets energies, thereby become a Saturn/Capricorn, Uranus/aquarius, Neptune/pisces and Pluto/scorpio

so unless you have times of birth and charts to look at your are basically ***psd in the wind
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I'm not sure of my ascendant... I'm between cancer and leo.. I'm just sure of my moon in pisces...:S but yeah, maybe my truth rising is cancer...
Thank you very much
so, basically do you worry? are you family orientated? good at hanging onto your money?

Ascendant physical traits
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25131

Ascendant sign research
http://www.cafeastrology.com/risingsignsascendant.html
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-ascendant.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/angles.html
http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/zodia_sign.htm
http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-are-rising-sign-traits.shtml
http://www.alwaysastrology.com/rising-signs.html
http://www.astrofaces.com/astrofaces/index.html
http://www.forrestastrology.com/Audio-and-Video/The-Ascendant-Workshop-MP3
http://www.starslikeyou.com.au/star-files/ascendant/aries.php
http://www.forrestastrology.com/General-Astrology/the-craft-of-chart-rectification
http://www.elbertwade.com/page79.html

You can listen to author Jodie Forrest here describe Ascendants and planets in first house, even buy her audio on the subject
Just briefly, according to member Kannon [Cardinal signs are more rounded. Fixed signs are rectangular or blocky. Mutable signs are longish or narrow]
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28315
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38516
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25131
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so, basically do you worry? are you family orientated? good at hanging onto your money?

Ascendant physical traits
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25131

Ascendant sign research
http://www.cafeastrology.com/risingsignsascendant.html
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-ascendant.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/angles.html
http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/zodia_sign.htm
http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-are-rising-sign-traits.shtml
http://www.alwaysastrology.com/rising-signs.html
http://www.astrofaces.com/astrofaces/index.html
http://www.forrestastrology.com/Audio-and-Video/The-Ascendant-Workshop-MP3
http://www.starslikeyou.com.au/star-files/ascendant/aries.php
http://www.forrestastrology.com/General-Astrology/the-craft-of-chart-rectification
http://www.elbertwade.com/page79.html

You can listen to author Jodie Forrest here describe Ascendants and planets in first house, even buy her audio on the subject
Just briefly, according to member Kannon [Cardinal signs are more rounded. Fixed signs are rectangular or blocky. Mutable signs are longish or narrow]
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28315
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38516
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25131
I'm always in stress and anxious about something... I can get even obcessions about some problem... But in tropical astrology my rising is Leo :S ... Sun, mercury, mars in libra, venus in sag
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Oh yeah, tiger come and get me...

PS: What actually means unconscious? I know the word, but in other words?
being unaware, the things in the dark, things you cannot see (but others might do )
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Which ascendant is:

always smiling,
but quiet
When meet new people: first shy, always listening and observing, trying to figure out if the person shows superficiality or deepness... and if the persons are sympathetic and outgoing he'll talks alot... but when persons are shy too, he stays in his ground.
Seems inocent and maybe dumb, but inside very smart
Don't like to talk about his conquers, even when he knows he is the best, he always shows modesty and humbleness.
Get hurt very easily, with critics and distant behavior,
With strangers or with people he's not confident around, he can "lie" to be just kind/polite. He hates hurting someone.
But with family and close friends, he's very honest and frontal.
When hurt, can get very agressive
Is very anxious, and have very pessimistics toughts
Dreams about being a parent and have a home...
Impulsive....
A bit nostalgic and depressive...
Don't search being the center of attention, but likes when it happens.
Has a strong bond with his mom

What ascendant could be a person like this?

My moon is in Pisces, but I'm not sure if these traits of my personality came from my moon sign or not? Is this sound like pisces? Or sounds like another one?

could be pisces, but sounds like virgo --ups read your post later. maybe you are cancer. do you have good/ lots of relationships to watersigns? because you are loaded with fire, so naturally these are more confrontational combinations.

well look at this:
http://www.wsanford.com/~wsanford/exo/sundials/equation_of_time.html
originally from dr. farr

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Mine it's -13.6... and what I must do with this number?
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Can I see your whole chart please? Even if you are Leo rising, there might be some things giving you lots of Cancer tendencies (i.e. midpoint, aspects to or from Cancer planets or Moon.) There are a bajillion aspects and signs that are good with money, or at least don't spend it constantly, so I wouldn't go by that alone for Cancer.

Cancer is cardinal/initiating or "born" or "reborn" and Pisces is mutable/transforming or "dying" (Birth - Living - Death - Rebirth of an element repeatedly = Grand Trine.) All feminine signs are introvert (feminine is receptive, they're receiving when they're looking into themselves) and all masculine signs are extrovert (masculine is expressive, they're expressing onto other people. It's sort of an analogy with physiological masculinity and femininity and also shade and light or yin and yang.) Dry signs separate things apart, wet signs bring things together. Dry masculine can get along better with dry feminine than wet masculine can with wet feminine because wet and wet will basically cohere, while dry and dry can separate apart. Fixed signs also have the hardest hard aspects because they just keep doing what they're doing and don't change anything. Cardinal to fixed is the worst disjunct (or quincunx) because one tries to initiate while the other tries to stay in place. The worst disjunct would be either cardinal wet extrovert to fixed wet introvert, or cardinal wet introvert to fixed wet extrovert. Only one of these exists, and it's cardinal wet introvert to fixed wet extrovert, also known as Aquarius to Cancer. Aquarius and Pisces have a harmonic aspect between them (or more depending on the specific degrees) so there's no real problem there. Since Cancer is initiating it can give itself a "shell" while Pisces has to adapt, so without specific aspects Cancer could do a better job hiding emotions. Introvert signs tend to be more conservative since they're more concerned with themselves internally, while extrovert signs tend to be more liberal since they're more concerned with general welfare. Mutable is adaptable so naturally they are more open to things since they can adapt to them than cardinal, which is about starting or changing things, or fixed, which is about keeping things going. Cardinal seems to want to keep getting more and more things started as relates to their element but they (in isolation) can't sustain so fixed signs end up, counter-intuitively (intuition is bunk,) more open or progressive-minded or non-change-adverse than cardinal signs, despite being based around keeping up a sort of status quo. All the wet signs seem to have a sort of duality to them, although the fixed signs, being fixed, don't really show this as changeability so much as being impossible to figure out.

I'm sorry for how badly organized that was.

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Re: Differences between Cancer and Pisces?

Astrology is really confusing at times, and really hard to pin down...

I am a Leo (sun,moon,merc,mars) with a Pis Asc Can Venus....
I have an earth void (meaning no planets in earth)

And well I am more "virgo" than anything...
Why???

Because All my Leo planets are in H6 (the virgo house) also all of my Leo has progressed to Virgo... (well moon is at cap)
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Which ascendant is:

always smiling,
but quiet
When meet new people: first shy, always listening and observing, trying to figure out if the person shows superficiality or deepness... and if the persons are sympathetic and outgoing he'll talks alot... but when persons are shy too, he stays in his ground.
Seems inocent and maybe dumb, but inside very smart
Don't like to talk about his conquers, even when he knows he is the best, he always shows modesty and humbleness.
Get hurt very easily, with critics and distant behavior,
With strangers or with people he's not confident around, he can "lie" to be just kind/polite. He hates hurting someone.
But with family and close friends, he's very honest and frontal.
When hurt, can get very agressive
Is very anxious, and have very pessimistics toughts
Dreams about being a parent and have a home...
Impulsive....
A bit nostalgic and depressive...
Don't search being the center of attention, but likes when it happens.
Has a strong bond with his mom

What ascendant could be a person like this?
This describes me really well... I have Cancer rising... but I also have a lot of other aspects in my chart that might contribute to this list also besides just my ascendant. I'm still too new to give a definite answer but my intuition tells me this could be cancer ascendant.

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You look, and from what I've seen on the boards, just "seem" more like a cancer rising, overall. And yes I realise that i haven't seen the rest of your chart, but going on first impressions alone (which is the ascendant's domain), I put my vote in for cancer.
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You have the Moon in Pisces and Jupiter in Cancer. That's mutual reception. The Sun in Libra ruled by Venus in Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter in Cancer would deposit to this reception. So yes, you rising sign is really hard to tell and I'd recommend doing progressions, transits, solar arcs on your chart to find out, or getting someone to do them for you if you don't want to learn how at the moment. I figured out my Ascendant was Aquarius and not Capricorn using predictive techniques like this. Even better, you can figure out the exact degree as well.
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You have the Moon in Pisces and Jupiter in Cancer. That's mutual reception. The Sun in Libra ruled by Venus in Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter in Cancer would deposit to this reception. So yes, you rising sign is really hard to tell and I'd recommend doing progressions, transits, solar arcs on your chart to find out, or getting someone to do them for you if you don't want to learn how at the moment. I figured out my Ascendant was Aquarius and not Capricorn using predictive techniques like this. Even better, you can figure out the exact degree as well.
I don't know anyone to do me that... and I don't know how to do it as well
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You look very Leo in all your pictures, but you're going to be more watery because your chart has all 3 watery planets (using Jupiter instead of Neptune because it's domiciled and Pluto instead of Mars because it's domiciled) in watery signs and a mutual reception by both domicile and triplicity with one of the planets already exalted, but fire empty except for Mercury in Sagittarius (which is not strongly placed on your chart in any of multiple ways it could be.) Can you also post the additional tables so I can see your Ascendant aspects by latitude and declination?
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You look very Leo in all your pictures, but you're going to be more watery because your chart has all 3 watery planets (using Jupiter instead of Neptune because it's domiciled and Pluto instead of Mars because it's domiciled) in watery signs and a mutual reception by both domicile and triplicity with one of the planets already exalted, but fire empty except for Mercury in Sagittarius (which is not strongly placed on your chart in any of multiple ways it could be.) Can you also post the additional tables so I can see your Ascendant aspects by latitude and declination?
So you are saying that Jupiter being exalted in cancer it's one important aspect in my chart?

Where should I go for these additional tables?
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astro.com. The link is right on the same page as your chart. I totally overlooked it as a beginner too, and went crazy in frustration because most of the signs and houses didn't appear to describe me. Venus applying a close parallel to Uranus made a big difference in terms of where all the energy on my chart went.
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astro.com. The link is right on the same page as your chart. I totally overlooked it as a beginner too, and went crazy in frustration because most of the signs and houses didn't appear to describe me. Venus applying a close parallel to Uranus made a big difference in terms of where all the energy on my chart went.
I see myself as a Leo too, yes, but also in cancer. I'm shy at a first sight, or at least not so talkative as in a familiar/friends ambient. I'm also very suspicious, a bit lonely, like to stay at home, but also spend money I'm not a constant and stable person in my ways. I can be sunny, and than turn into ice just with a little thing you could say.

Can you tell me too, which is my dominant planet/sign?
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actually I see myself much more in my Vedic position of the planets... There's also an obsessive control, paranoid and jeaslously in love... and VENUS IN SAG is not so...
In sidereal I am a Scorpio Venus, and I absolutely relate to it... but unfortunately are the worst aspects...
My moon stills in pisces in vedic... and I get sun, mars and mercury in virgo which I can also relate...
My Rising is in Leo two (with the birth certificate hour), but if I put just one hour before... is cancer 2nd decan... and my mother always said that I was born at 1.30. (Leo rising 2nd decan in western and Cancer rising 2nd decan in Sidereal)...
So, deeply, I see myself in sidereal astrology precisely vedic astrology
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Hello everyone,
I want to know what are the psychological differences between Cancer and Pisces?

And if's possible too, between Cancer and Leo... (they are both generous, loving, sympathetic, Leo when reject can also get cold, both like attention, both are jealous and possessive... right? What are the DIFFERENCES? Is Leo NEVER shy for example?

Difference between Cancer and Pisces? A lot!! I'm with a Cancer, but sometimes I can't believe we're the same element. I'm far less afraid to be friendly/open to strangers, while Cancers carry that stranger-danger philosophy till death. I think as a Pisces I carry a naive outlook with anything new, kind of welcome it with open arms and optimistic expectations. Cancer doesn't trust anything lol, not until he's known it for a while.
But I can see why some think Cancer love is more special, as they only share it with a few people...while Pisces give it away for free. Cancer is more reliable in my experience. Overall I'd say Cancer is more gun-shy, and needs more patience. And it's harder to read their emotions. If you love change, Pisces is great for that. One day they love you, next they don't...the next they wont remember who you are....you don't know what you'll get.
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