Piercthevale, did you know i have a natal biquintile between pluto and north node? With pluto at 9.01 scorpio and nn at 2.17 aries its a 143.16 degree aspect.
Of course, i don't consider myself to be clairvoyant and EC's and C's charts both have pluto in a quintile/tredecile relationship to the nodes whereas mine is a decile/biquintile relationship. Maybe there is something more to discover regarding this connection? I will have to spend some time contemplating it.
And though we are discussing mars and venus, I also wonder what a relationship would be like with a man's Sun and a woman's Moon in quintile/biquintile aspect. Anyone experience that?
Yes I did know of it. I haven't thought about it any in quite awhile though. I never gave the Semi-quintile much credit until recently , so it is worth a reevaluation and the present seems like the right time too... funny how that all works out, isn't it?
I also notice for the first time a moment ago that Your natal Pluto and that of my brother is in perfect quintile aspect. His Pluto is at 27° Leo 06' 12" so it's like 71° 54' 41" ... dang near perfect and as his Pluto is rx it is applying..in reverse... what's up with those apps and seps? They aren't all the same... there's more than 8 way that planets can apply and the same for Separating...they can't just all be classified as having the same method and focus of influence... but that's what Ursula did in her book... lumped all the applying and all the separating quintile aspects together... Well, it is supposed to be a basic pocket sized handbook... just the simple plain fats ...minimalist in descriptive text. It's served me well enough the last 33 years... almost 33, it will be come this August. It was the one I carried in my car or years... while I was in my 'green years', the first ten or so... would always be needing to look up something as it hadn't burned itself into my brain as yet.
Nifty section for quick reference when you just happened to meet someone and have about three minutes to figure out if you're going to ask for her phone number or find some excuse as for not to have one yourself if asked... depending on what you can figure in such little time.
I always try to get the day and year of birth right away... Hey, I'm an astrologer and I love to talk about what fascinates me and everybody likes to wear their sign...most everybody, anyways, and If she doesn't...you don't need to check matters out any further...she's a loser... right?
Get the day and year... and I always had my Michelsen's 20th Century Ephemeris in my car as well. Odds are Her Venus and Mars were in but one sign that day she was born... if it's a choice of two, work with it and if you have to decide on the basis of one factor, hopefully it's Her Venus as that tells you right away the potential odds of making a good romantic connection eventually, and it also gives up the info as to her "Needs and Reactions"
I brought this up in another thread her at the forum some years ago. Ursula Lewis' Astrology Handbook gets the award for best tool in the available bachelors' utility belt ...but you got to have the ephemeris too... or access to same online ( I'm still not one of the IPhone crowd, don't want to be) but Michelsen's ephemeris is much more accurate than astrodienst's pdf files ...way better.)Ursula's book chapter 11, "Your Sexual Expression- Venus, Mars and the Fifth House." In tat chapter you will find "A Mans Mars (His Needs and Reactions) and a one or two sentence, very terse, summation for Mars in each of the twelve signs. Then you will come upon "Mars In A Womans' Chart (The Kind Of Man She Will Be Attracted To)" And again there are twelve signs that Mars might be found in in a womans' chart the commentary is short, sweet, and to the point. Then comes the section, "Venus In A Mans' Chart (The Kind Of Woman He Will Be Attracted To" and that is followed by "Venus IN A Womans' Chart (Her Needs And Reactions). The last page of chapter 11 in Ursula's Astrologers' Handbook Is "The Sign Ruling The Cusp Of the Fifth House"
Get her birthdate, excuse yourself for long enough to find the date in the ephemeris, note the positions of Venus and Mars... and while your turning to chapter 11 you can figure out what kind of synastry your Venus and Mars and anything else you have time to apply to get a quick idea of whether there is anything in grave opposition or damning squares.
Just for fun as I need a chart for an example to use in a demonstration... I'm going to use the composite chart that Phoenix Venus has with the one we are both convinced is accurate enough to be that of the Prince of Peace. (a chart cast for the date that the renowned 20th century American clairvoyant, Edgar Cayce, gave as the date of birth for the "Essene Dream" himself, April 2nd in the year 3 C.E. (or A.D. if you prefer) gregorian.
Let's just say that it is the chart of someone I just met at a gathering, I've gone to the utility belt and find that...
Her chart has a Venus in Capricorn from the 4th to the 5th degree and Mars was in Leo, in the 11th degree that day.
First off I notice that my Mars in the 5th of Gemini is inconjunct her Venus... but that is not necessarily a bad thing... just have to remember that it'll always seem like were exchanging forehand shots on the center court. (30 - Love.. service) So Her Mars is in Leo, just what kind of man is she interested in...what is she looking for in a guy? "Ursula's Handbook tells me " She likes a man who is sure of himself, outgoing and stylish in his appearance."
Back in my youthful bachelor days I worked construction five days a week, I usually had some sort of stain that was permanently tinting my hands or fingers ...at least a few nails and I almost always was wearing a pair of well worn blue jeans and I smelled of sawdust or paint...or fresh cement...or any combination there of. My hair was always long as to where most gals wanted me to cut it and after haggling with a foreman or a homeowner customer all day I wasn't all too sure of myself as about anything other than some cold beer and then dinner. Doesn't look hopeful so far...
What about Her Capricorn Venus? What kind of needs and reactions does Capricorn laden Venus with? Ursula's Handbook says "This is a reserved woman, often incapable of demonstrative behavior, but once a man accepts her reserve and earns her respect, she will be extremely loyal to him."
So, now I do a quick review in my mind "likes a man who is sure of himself, outgoing and stylish in his appearance"...and she is " a reserved woman, often incapable of demonstrative behavior. Accept her reserve and win her respect and loyalty"
OMG, I believe I must have just met the Duchess of York....
No phone umber will be asked for or offered this eve...someday her prince will come, or are there any princes still on the availability list presently.
Prince Harry's still single, now, isn't he..or is he still dallying with that Canadian gal... Sparkle Markle.. ... or something like that?
...and you know what Phoenix...that is a bi quintile between Mars and Venus in the composite natal chart of yours and that nice Jewish fella ... and by only 18" of a degree orb, wow.
I never noticed that before... And, also a Sun - Lilith biquitile by a 01' 16" orb.
That Moon Pluto aspct may be just enough to pass as a quintile for the reason that Pluto is conj. the Asc. and the Moon is definitely conj. that. That would give you three out of five on the composite for Pentagram makings. Moon, Pluto, Ac., Pallas... a girl could do a lot worse.
I have Mars in Gemini and Venus in Aries...meaning, according to Ursula and I have to give it to her, it is a most condensed synopsis but it is correct and accurate. Guys with a Gemini Mars goes for the cerebral type of woman...we are a bit flirtatious but need that intellectual companionship ...no awkward pauses in the conversation afterwards... the kind that will keep the chatter intellectual stimulating until you doze off is generally what we seek (not 24/7, as we all need some peace and quiet now and then too) ...and Chess is a nice substitute for talk sometimes... laying in bed all day on Sunday just reading the newspaper then doing the crossword together.
I've also Venus in Aries, "He is attracted to the woman who is outgoing, independent, scintillating and has a sense of adventure." ...one doesn't see that word, "scintillating" much anymore... I would've done better had I been born 30 years later as this "X' generation that has been providing the athletes to watch these last fifteen or so years or more. This generation now mostly in their 30s soon to start entering their 40s, has produced a vast number of some of the most outstanding women athletes the world can ever remember and as for outgoing in general it seems that they don't come any other way.
One last item. It would be the very rare one that you might meet that actually has a copy of their natal chart but ever since the Smart Phone has come along anything has suddenly become the norm and not the exception, Possible IS possible.
so, lets look up the fifth House cusp of this 'Duchess' and see what one would expect when the lights go low... does one skip the light fandango ...or should he do cartwheels across the floor?
The composite chart has Aquarius for its fifth House cusp. According to Ursula's Handbook "These people need a partner who is mentally stimulating. They are inconsistent in sex performance."
Whew...dodged a bullet with that one. Prince Harry with a good portion of Alex Trebek is what she's looking for.
I don't know that Ursula Lewis' Astrologers Handbook is still in print or not. Likely not. The complete title of the book I referred to throughout this post is "Chart Your Own Horoscope For Beginner and Professional" by Ursula Lewis, copyright 1976 published by the Putnam Pub Group in paperback, I find that Amazon is loaded with them...starting at $2.99 Yankee Dollar.