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Unread 05-06-2014, 05:32 PM
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Pluto Transiting 12th House…can't deal anymore!

Does anyone else have pluto transiting their 12th house? are you going crazy too?

I can't believe i'm saying this, but i'm actually looking forward to when pluto conjuncts my ascendant.

My life started unravelling about 5 years ago…up until then things had been going pretty good. As soon as pluto entered my 12th house I went into a major depression. I'm not talking about the kind where you just feel a little down from time to time. I went into a paranoia…thinking i was deathly ill with some virus. Looking back now it seems crazy, but at the time i thought it was the realest thing. I started having panic attacks, didn't leave my house for days…didn't eat. I can honestly say it was the lowest point of my life.

Before pluto hit my 12th house i hadn't been to a hospital in 7 years…in the past 5 years I have been in there 4 times!

Since then I started meditation and became more spiritual as a way of coping with the depression. Before I relied solely on others for validation and over the past year or so I have completely shifted my thinking. I also had very poor eating habits, and after i went into this depression I started eating a lot better. Some good has come out of this transit, it hasn't been all bad. But to get to this point has been complete emotional hell. I've had more breakdowns and breakthroughs in the past 5 years compared to my whole life. I guess everyone always looks back at the rough times & sees them in a new light…but it has been hard.

Is anyone else going through this transit (pluto transiting your 12th house)? has it been rough or am i the only one?

Also does it get better after pluto hits your ascendant…or is that even worse?

Trying to see the positives…but i don't know how much longer i can deal with pluto's energies.

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I experienced this at the same time as my Saturn Return [30 years old] and indeed a double whammy for me. I certainly encountered close encounters with death situations, in multiples. Certainly forced me to 'grow up' and deal with the true realities of the physical world. This was also the time frame when I underwent marital separation, which led to divorce. Pluto went retrograde the next year, and the crises continued. The influence is not typically a short term event, since Pluto is so slow moving, but indeed when we come out on the other side, some degree of metamorphosis has taken place. Pluto relates to deeply embedded psychological wounding, and yes it can make you feel a little bit crazy,' a little out of touch'...What is happening for you now is all about rising from the ashes of destruction in the past...what doesn't kill us makes us stronger, etc, although I know how difficult it can be to realize that while you undergo the transit.Pluto also represents the Soul. After that transit, one must certainly become the master and commander of their own life. Personally I do think that depression is all about coming back to ourselves, facing up to our inner blockages [so that Pluto can purge us of inner negativism] and will often lead to a resurgence of a greater spiritual awareness. That is the plan for you, so along the way you must avoid suicidal ideation, my friend. Better things can come your way through the lessons you are learning now. The themes to play out for you are encoded in the natal position of Pluto in your chart, and the house it rules, as well as it's aspects. Be willing to undergo 'the car wash' so you can come out shiny and new. Pluto will bring deep and meaningful lessons for you. Be strong and best of luck!
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Re: Pluto Transiting 12th House…can't deal anymore!

Hi kimbermoon,

Thank you for your reply, your posts are always insightful because you go beyond the textbook interpretation of aspects.

I can't imagine going through the saturn return along with pluto conjunct your ascendant…my saturn is in the 12th but i'm hoping pluto moves past my asc by that time. Because having the doubt whammy like you had is not something that I want to experience. I agree with what you said that this is a very transformational aspect. If I look at the person I was before pluto entered my 12th house vs. now I wouldn't recognize myself. I used to be so insecure, but now I slowly feel as though i'm regaining control of my life. I finally realize the power lies within me..and even though it's at the expense of some challenging circumstances i agree with you when you say "you become the master of your own life".

For me pluto is conjunct my Midheaven so all these events are closely tied with my career…was always in a dead end job, but now i am realizing i deserve better. It was hell to come to that realization, but i think it has completely altered the course of my life.

I will say that when pluto first enters the 12th house it is a lot more painful. I think because at first you're not used to the energies and I had no idea how to handle them except breakdown. As it gets closer to the ascendant you gain inner strength and i think that propels you into the changes you need to make. Pluto will finally hit my asc in 2015-2016 …so we will see what it brings

Thank you for your insight kimbermoon, i really appreciate it
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Re: Pluto Transiting 12th House…can't deal anymore!

I had Pluto through my 12th when I was a kid - starting just before I was 9yrs old and it stayed there until I was 24.
It sucked.
I also had Uranus in 12th and then Saturn in 12th for part of this time.
At the start of it my father left our family, my mother didn't cope and a few years later I was sent away because my mother really couldn't cope.
There was lots of bullying at school - by verbal and sometimes physical means. I tried to tell people once, but to no help at all and I learned to fear telling anyone anything.
I was depressed, isolated and it took years to crawl myself back out of this period of my life.
I'm in my mid-40's now, and that period of my life still affects me.

I don't envy you going through this.

However...
I think if I was giving advise to someone else who is living through Pluto in the 12th, then I would highly recommend finding ways to positively express Pluto and 12th House energy, and Capricorn energy (since Pluto is there now).
My son has 4 planets in 12th House, natally, so I go to extreme efforts to find ways for him to positively express those 12th House energies... otherwise I really do notice that they start to come out in negative ways.
As for Pluto going over my Ascendant - if anything it was so much more positive, life was so much less dark.

I hope you find something that helps you have a more positive way to move through this period.
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Re: Pluto Transiting 12th House…can't deal anymore!

Remember too that while Pluto can be highly destructive in one's life, the lessons it brings are all about 'empowerment, and the ability to transform the self from being victimized, by gaining victory over one's challenges. When all is said and done Pluto is about resurrection and renewal...in the meantime it is about soul-searching and intense self-analysis...if we could have a peak at your chart more might be revealed about this dilemma...
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the lessons it brings are all about 'empowerment, and the ability to transform the self from being victimized, by gaining victory over one's challenges
Being aware of this is something that really gives you back power, I think.
It makes you realise just 'why' you had those experiences, rather than making you feel victimised because you went through all of that.

Depending on what happens through such strong Pluto transits, it can feel very crippling, if you can't see this bigger picture. I was like that for many years - it was very freeing to learn about Astrology and to learn about the reasons behind certain planetary transits.
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Re: Pluto Transiting 12th House…can't deal anymore!

I experienced a Pluto transit too last year(and still have It) and It was terrifying for me too! So, if we assume that astrology is real, Pluto was crossing IC with Jupiter in MD and like It was not enough, Uranus in DSC and I was wondering "did I go crazy?" or "am I going crazy?". I had some paranoid thoughts too, paralyzed by fear, unable to communicate with anybody and work and a long list of symptoms...A totally different person, so I asked help from a psychotherapist.. I was angry with my friends and family cause they didn't help me(but how could they, if I didn't talk to them!)I was almost alone(I thank God my cousin supported me, one person was enough) and It was my choice! Such things we ourselves can go through! And don't feel you are the craziest person in the world cause It's not true, lots of ''normal'' people go through such phases, the majority! And when It's all over (cause It will) you will realise how constructive, necessary and transformative It was! Have faith in yourself! Everything will be fine!

My cousin experienced your transit 4 years ago and she had depression for a couple of years! But now she is strong, determined and ready to enter the FIT university!
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Re: Pluto Transiting 12th House…can't deal anymore!

You are right to be upset and to a very great extent. Pluto transiting the 12 house is both a unique (to you) and indescribable experience: Worse for the fact that you must experience it alone - i.e., no one understands; there is no one to truly communicate with. Erin Sullivan in her book, Retrograde Planets, explains this in chapter 23. The experience recreates Hesiod's theogenic tales of the Greek Gods - viz., Pluto (Hades) was swallowed by the worldly Saturn into the darkness of his father's belly and there left alone. In more tractable terms - and this is especially true if Pluto has contacted by aspect any planets during his transit of your 12th house - you, your subconscious, are being taken apart and brought to the surface of awareness, piece by piece. NOT a pleasant experience. My advice: Work with the irresistible, inevitable Pluto on this, because you can't oppose him, and actively aid him in seeking to unearth the repressed BS that you have buried in your sub-conscious... the issues you have not dealt with and not yet brought into conscious awareness. Understand: Pluto will NOT give up until ALL the pieces are brought into conscious awareness and no BS! Understand that this is for you an important evolutionary experience. Deal with it. You can deal with it. Don't give up or give in. I speak from experience. Despite the loneliness of this transit, you are not alone. People care. Else I would not have bothered to write you.
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Re: Pluto Transiting 12th House…can't deal anymore!

Hey, In my experience, I’m having Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter in the 12th house now. Just Pluto alone, I got depressed, anxious, paranoid, and obsessive about success to detriment of myself (12th house Capricorn). I’ve been to psychiatric hospital for the past 7 years. Almost didn’t graduate high school, being bullied and sexually stalked around school environment. It’s like spending youth time in pain really. But last year till this year, Pluto and Saturn hit my sun in 12th house on my birthday. They teamed up with eclipse and south node there too. It was so dramatic. My solar return looks horrible too. I’ll tell you how it’s been like. Lol. First, in the middle of last year, I found out I had a hidden legal issue with my dad regarding nationality. (It was his misunderstanding since my birth that led to the problem 20 yrs later, but I forgive him now). I got pressured to transfer to another university abroad but I was spreading myself too thin already. I got setup as an incompetent student in university. Those people blamed me for their mistakes and believe my mental illness was a lie. I went back to therapy. Then one day, I was having enough and decided to pause my study for a semester because I was having so much mental breakdown with my mom on the phone every night or even having to phone her during classes. After I paused my study, I came to conclusion of leaving it all behind. Then January came, I quit the university. After that, just 1 month I quit, the pandemic started. Now, I’m stuck at home feeling lost with life. But you know what, it feels so much lighter. The pressure I put on myself to succeed for 10-12 years was lifted. I feel like I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I know Pluto isn’t gonna leave soon but to have Saturn and Jupiter enter my 1st house this December, I feel hope. There might still be some psychological turmoil but I feel like i’m being born again in a new dimension or direction.

I understand you. The 12th house is so helpless and powerless. I feel like I was chasing an illusion. After I got where I wanted, there’s no tangible improvement or solid being I could grab. And it’s like people just secretly planning to obstruct my dream too. I see that this thread was posted in 2014, I hope your life has improved now. But for me the journey continues.

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