Achilles heel and chinks in the armor of Scorpio placements in power struggles.

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Whoam1

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Tireless, dynamic, energetic, persevering.
Creates best "effects" through novel approaches and surprising intensity. ("**** the torpedoes...")
Loves danger, risk; impulsively or fearlessly tackles any difficult situation. - They "expect the protection of the Gods" (Firmicus).
Impatient.
Barnstorming BOLDNESS & MORAL COURAGE. Abhors apathy in society.
Keen sense of humor.
Iconoclastic in theory but usually more conservative in behavior.
FREEDOM MOTIF dominates them. Claustrophobic.
Hates forced schedules - rarely comfortable in a "9 to 5" routine.
Little interest in theory unless it is immediately practical. Believes in ACTION, not idle dreams. (STATS: Low for Gauquelin scientists.)
Finds strategy more difficult than actual execution of a plan.
Pragmatic, if not iconoclastic, in religion. Conscious of the relevance and natural unity of all Creation, without getting lost in the clouds.
Able to reduce abstract truths, music, philosophical themes into terms understandable to the common person. (Talented teachers.)
Seldom one-track minds. (Integrates several things.)
Keen analytical ability - hidden motives rarely escape their notice. Commonly astute judges of character.
Masterfully thorough.
Won't bother to say things without a specific reason, thus "low profile." Slow to reveal own WEAKNESSES, but collects others' weaknesses.
Corked volcanoes. Ever in a state of "wanna." If immediate expression is denied them, they push tension under the surface where it builds, needing eventual release (and making them irritable).
PHALLIC awareness. Not squeamish in sexual matters.
Scorpio girls are generally tomboys.
In a relationship, gives freely, generously, then expects of partner what they, themselves, have given.

I can contest to most of these traits.

I have a Moon Square Pluto aspect (moon in the 8th house) and Scorpio CoE (concentration of energy kind of like a Stellium) it has:

Mercury (angular, highest degree planet(soul planet),29 degree (critical degree), conj the AC in the next sign, the first planet that rose after my birth (conj. Horizon), and Mercury is in the closest aspect (.06 away from an exact sextile) with mars in Capricorn). It's a personal planet

Pluto (mid of Scorpio, aspects the moon, MC, an Uranus conj. Chiron and black moon Lilith)

Venus (0 degrees Scorpio (critical degree), it squares mars and parallels Uranus. It also rules the MC). It's a personal planet

Scorpio covers how and what I love, how I think and communicate, my will and ability and need to rebel and to change and transform myself and others around me, and the underbelly of my emotional state. Far more deep than my sun sign who covers my self-worth and my moon sign that covers a breIf part of my emotions. So what kind of Scorpios are you looking to destroy? We don't like small spaces the first step in your holocaust would be classification...
 

chocolate

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“If you're a Scorpio yourself (or have a lot in to you), then be one of the good ones but don't stop me from learning how I can break the scumbags in your sign who have it coming”
Do you read the contradiction in that quote of yours? You are asking others to be “one of the -good- ones”, whilst you yourself are acting quite evil-mindedly wanting to take revenge. Stop for a minute and think what you are doing here. You have immersed yourself into hate so much that you are not able to come out of it now.
And I think it is high time you took yourself with your hate somewhere else instead of asking others to get lost. With your attitude, you will be provoking many in life to want to destroy you.
Exactly what I was thinking.
 

GemwDepth

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So I have been trying to find some weak spots of people with a lot of Scorpio placements in their charts, particularly in the mars sign.

This is a very under-handed and manipulative type of sign but I am trying to find weak spots and ways this sign gets defeated in power struggles.

A good example I am looking at is what Trump did to both Ted Cruz and Hillary Clinton, Scorpio politicians, often putting their deeds out for the world to see.

Another thread? You are seriously obsessed. The rest of us have taught "troublesome scorpios" a lesson, then left to go on with our lives.
 

miquar

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It just occurred to me that we have words like 'racism' and 'sexism' and 'homophobia', but we don't have a word for someone's bigotry is directed towards an archetype. I think this goes beyond people who know about astrology - someone might, for example, dislike needy people. It's just that astrologers have labels such signs, planets, elements and modes.

Astroassist - everyone has Scorpio and Pluto energy, and as I said earlier in the thread (and Aquarius7000 has also pointed out) you are projecting your own destructive Pluto tendencies onto others.
 

GemwDepth

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It is ironic AA functions like a Scorpio himself with Sun squaring Pluto, being proud of being "fixed", "holding grudges" and "being vengeful", on a path of revenge, yet projecting himself as the victim and the boss as the bully.

You are doing exactly what you are accusing your boss of doing. You are not a victim.

Every single thread so far as been his need to get even in a personal vendetta. This is sadly, not how astrology is meant to be used. Nor will astrology tell one some magical "achilles heel" where one can then exploit to satisfy their ego and ruthlessness.

I do not believe its even ethical on this board to post someone's chart and placements, and ask about their weaknesses, so someone can "destroy them". This is an intellectual board, this is not a criminal ring to brainstorm ways to harm other people. This is sad. I hope this is not going to be a recurring pattern now or set a example, where the new Pluto in Scorpio generation posts up some data, then request for ways to destroy someone's life. This would be an abuse of the site, the discipline and turn everything downhill.

Many people have written very wise advice in over 5+ threads I counted so far, posted on pretty much the same topic, with the same underlying intention of revenge, but worded in creative ways. All the wisdom everyone has provided seem to be ignored and wasted.

Everything comes back to destroying the imagined opponent, or self-aggrandizement on his Leo and Gemini planets as superior.

This is all very sad to me.
 
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Its quite strange how people call me out for my honesty towards a sign yet we don't point out the various garbage out there calling a Mars In Scorpio "formidable" and calling the sign "the strongest".

As far as I am concerned, every sign has nastiness to it but you can easily go on Google to find how Leos have the weakness of pride and being flattered or Geminis, well they practically suck if you listened to most astrologers. I do the brave thing and say, lets discuss the weaknesses of the so called "strongest sign".

Now I already know the weakness but I must say that Gemwdepth sounds like someone with Stockholm Syndrome who would defend even a serial killer at this point. Not trying to be hostile here but it means a lot to me to know the weaknesses of this overrated fixed water sign inside out given how its individuals have harmed me, if you hate it, tough luck.
 

aquarius7000

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Its quite strange how people call me out for my honesty towards a sign yet we don't point out the various garbage out there calling a Mars In Scorpio "formidable" and calling the sign "the strongest".
Whilst it may seem "honesty" to you because of your personal problems with your boss, two things to remember here are 1)your own presentation of the Scorpio saga, which showed your intense dislike for the sign, so your astrology re the sign of Scorpio was not objective, but coloured by your bias. However, that happens to most. I am also not trying to be hostile or offensive here, but telling you how others - incl. myself perceive this to be; 2) how what you say lands with others, a typical sender - receiver conundrum. You may think you are only presenting the truth about what you think the Scorpio sign is all about (to you), but what actually lands with others is your vent your strong dislike for those Scorpio's that hurt you.

As far as I am concerned, every sign has nastiness to it but you can easily go on Google to find how Leos have the weakness of pride and being flattered or Geminis, well they practically suck if you listened to most astrologers. I do the brave thing and say, lets discuss the weaknesses of the so called "strongest sign".
That kind of Astrology is just plain cook-bookish. Also, it always helps to understand that a Leo (Sun) is MUCH more than just a Leo due to placements of their other planets and the intra-planetary aspects.

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As I have said, Scorpio heavy chart including the overrated Mars in the sign.

I think what I have done is amazing and great because I have given people another perspective to look at and in some ways, presented the solution to defeating the so called "strongest sign". While I have no issues with a Scorpio sun alone, I do find that a Scorpio heavy chart is one that needs a guide in combatting its natural tendency to prey on the weak and limit the full potential of others due to envy.

With my post, I made it quite clear on how to deal with it. Simply shine the light on their actions for the light will make the roaches run for cover in darkness.

Ever notice how Scorpios tend to censor others just like the one posing as a Gemini is trying to stop me from objectively pointing out the weaknesses of that which is the most overrated zodiac sign known to mankind?
 

aquarius7000

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...Ever notice how Scorpios tend to censor others just like the one posing as a Gemini is trying to stop me from objectively pointing out the weaknesses of that which is the most overrated zodiac sign known to mankind?
This is a good example of cookbook astrology and nothing more. Did you know that Astrology considers placements of a minimum of 7 planets? All you are doing is making blanket statements of how, in your eyes, Scorpios or Geminis are.
 

miquar

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Astro, you're missing the point. You're being honest in the sense that you are expressing your opinion(atedness) but you are being dishonest in the sense that you are not owning the vindictiveness which is arising from your own strong Pluto theme.
 
I'll admit, my bad experiences with people with heavy Scorpio charts brought me here but the reality is I am not the only one with those bad experiences. In seeing those scumbags, I noticed traits and I tried to figure out how to deal with such toxic beings. Unfortunately, all Google offered was "cookbook astrology" from morons like My Christian Psychic and Linda Goodman.

So after doing lots of research, I found the achilles heel of the so called "strongest sign" and shared it.

Obviously some people are upset but why is it that we can say Geminis are too unfocused and Leos too blinded by their pride yet not say that Scorpios rely on censorship in order to have any real power?
 

Syrus

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This thread is fun.


Scorpios burn alot of people. That energy you feel right now towards a scorpio is how they are pretty much feeling all the time, if you didn't know, they put their energy into you, they also make people want revenge on them because they are the ones to seek revenge/ sting people.


I'm curious to know your sun and moon lol, it'll explain alot. Something tells me youre a virgo or a aqua-pisces cusp.


Hmm how I'd deal with a scorpio? There's many ways. Scorpios have many many weaknesses, they're just better at hiding them.


Scorpios hold alot of secrets, they hide their own secrets because they have alot of skeletons in the closet. and they are constantly looking for other peoples secrets so they can exploit them, it's not hard for a scorpio to see your secrets/ or have a deep look into you after awhile of knowing you because they have that stare. So hide your secrets and find out what theres are and start something from there.


Scorpios also have alot of enemies, and some of their enemies hate them the same way you do. I'd try and identify who they are and then start setting plans in motion where the setting /enviroment favours them over the scorpio, so they can get "wins".


There's also the manifestation of sex somehow with a scorpio, the have a strong aspect of sexuality in all their interactions, I'd try look into how that is playing out.



Another thing is to pay attention to is, what is the scorpio obsessed with? Scorpios are always obsessing over something, and what ever that thing is, all their plans centre around that one thing. And whatever that thing is I'd make sure they never get it.


These are just general ideas off the top of my head. I don't know yoursetting, the other signs involved.



Personally I just dodge scorpios whenever i encounter them, just limit my engagements and interactions, so they don't have the opportunity to sting me, because their sting does hurt. But i also know that scorpios are like a car crash waiting to happen, over time they take accrue alot of bad karma and it starts to **** them with them, it's abit like being able to dead people everywhere, so I don't waste my time. If there is a situation where they are plotting, I'd just alert my superiors and stay prepared, i tend to just call people out as I see them, and then just focus on my own work which is more important.


Scorpios that seem like theyve won something by hurting others are really just losers. Their win is tainted. And trust me they take alot of loses, their demons get bigger and bigger.




EDIT: also understand, is that scorpios are natural hypnotizers. In work enviroments they tend to hypnotise people with a completely fake persona. So most people are generally unsuspecting and think they're angels, and if ever confronted they'll not only plot against you but they are good at playing victim, thats all water signs for you. Think of medusa, shes a scorpio archtype.
 
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Syrus, we are going to be great friends!

So my sun sign is Leo and my moon sign is Virgo. Quite frankly, I notice that Scorpios and Leos just do not get along. If there is one sign I think is always going to be at odds with Scorpio, it is a Leo.

The one issue I find with Scorpios is that this is a sign that is always starting the fight, whether in indirect or passive aggressive ways, they are starting the fight. Often, they look for conflict when there really isn't much of a conflict there. I have often had the experiences with Scorpios, mainly the guys, that left me thinking "dude really? What's your beef?".

It's like they are proactively finding enemies to make when everyone else is just trying to live their lives peacefully. Does not make me any happier to see any sign suffer greatly than a Scorpio, bar none.

As for the mask, you described the boss at my old workplace down to a tee. Did all of his trash talk and scheming in private meetings and was the biggest gossiper ever when he had people under him around but kept a face and act in front of others.

Not sure how to go about finding the enemies of a Scorpio and getting them to play their hand though. I have been thinking, with a Scorpio, no way I am the only one pissed.
 

GemwDepth

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Now I already know the weakness but I must say that Gemwdepth sounds like someone with Stockholm Syndrome who would defend even a serial killer at this point. Not trying to be hostile here but it means a lot to me to know the weaknesses of this overrated fixed water sign inside out given how its individuals have harmed me, if you hate it, tough luck.

Not defending, just do not share in the extreme emotions or viewpoint. Rather a balanced one.

Do not hate the topic, but do believe 'hate' threads sets a bad example. Since you are posting on an open forum open to all, anyone may likewise comment and express their opinions. That's the risk you take. Your titles are eye-catching. But this continued obsession is sad and not even funny anymore as joke threads.

You've posted 20+ threads on this for one year now. Yet ignores all constructive advice everyone recommends. Why? What is the point to keep posting if you are just going to ignore all the advice? :andy:

Is this all for attention?


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One other thing I wanted to mention about Scorpios and Scorpio placements though Syrus that I do think you left out, it is truly a sign for hypocrisy. You mentioned playing victim but this is the sign that will play saint one day and sinner the next then expect everyone to forget about it. Expect this sign to put on the holier than thou act and attempt to play up the role of superhero the next.

The one sign that will act morally self-righteous and attempt to hold that over people.

You really need someone who can call them out on it constantly and point it out, put them on the defensive.

As always, you do need the crowd to see it so you can peel the mask off.
 

Syrus

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Syrus, we are going to be great friends!

So my sun sign is Leo and my moon sign is Virgo. Quite frankly, I notice that Scorpios and Leos just do not get along. If there is one sign I think is always going to be at odds with Scorpio, it is a Leo.

The one issue I find with Scorpios is that this is a sign that is always starting the fight, whether in indirect or passive aggressive ways, they are starting the fight. Often, they look for conflict when there really isn't much of a conflict there. I have often had the experiences with Scorpios, mainly the guys, that left me thinking "dude really? What's your beef?".

It's like they are proactively finding enemies to make when everyone else is just trying to live their lives peacefully. Does not make me any happier to see any sign suffer greatly than a Scorpio, bar none.

As for the mask, you described the boss at my old workplace down to a tee. Did all of his trash talk and scheming in private meetings and was the biggest gossiper ever when he had people under him around but kept a face and act in front of others.

Not sure how to go about finding the enemies of a Scorpio and getting them to play their hand though. I have been thinking, with a Scorpio, no way I am the only one pissed.


Leo sun and a Virgo moon is a ....powerful combo, I know some influential powerful people with this combo, it's a powerful combo, even though it's a yang/sunny season/mood its got a dark aspect to it from the ones i know. The problem with them though is that they can't see the bigger picture sometimes, the world that their apart of. They get too sucked into the identity, the illusions of the ego or reality of the self, the me. constantly about the me. and then when that bigger picture comes, it hits them really hard. thats the trap they fall under.


These two signs I've noticed struggle to tell the difference between cold hard logic thats coming from a good place, to a compliment/critiscism thats coming from jealousy. Sometimes the truth is painful but it's not a attack.



I reccomend Taurses, cancers, capricorns and aquariuses to keep you grounded and keep the world around you genuine. Each of these signs can teach you something. (they can have their own problems too).


Thing with scorpios is that they suffer with the emotions of jealousy and envy. Exposing scorpios in a public is what they hate, they dontlike people seeing past their fake masks. Scorpio men are bitchy. scorpios always have a back up plan or an escape, if or when you challenge them and remove their escape, they'll hate you, youll win but theyll plot on you always.


Scorpios in the modern day use story telling, comedy, jokes to hypnotize people.



Don't worry you're justified in how you feel, they are always rubbing people the wrong way. the good thing about being a leo is that you dontsupress anything, eberything is on the surface, you're in touch with the self so you're aware of how you feel.
 

Syrus

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One other thing I wanted to mention about Scorpios and Scorpio placements though Syrus that I do think you left out, it is truly a sign for hypocrisy. You mentioned playing victim but this is the sign that will play saint one day and sinner the next then expect everyone to forget about it. Expect this sign to put on the holier than thou act and attempt to play up the role of superhero the next.

The one sign that will act morally self-righteous and attempt to hold that over people.

You really need someone who can call them out on it constantly and point it out, put them on the defensive.

As always, you do need the crowd to see it so you can peel the mask off.


yes the crowd, they love hiding in the crowd, thats where they hide.
 

Osamenor

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All,

This thread is turning into an attack fest. I've deleted some attacking comments and responses to them, but the tone of the thread in general indicates a high probability of continued attacks. Because of that, I am closing this thread.

The rule here is to keep it about the ideas, not the person. "You" statements are usually attacks.

Furthermore, the turn this thread has taken is in the direction of becoming a slur against all Scorpios, including those of our members born during Scorpio month. While you may voice a negative opinion of a sign, or of people in your life who are not members of this forum, when it becomes about people who are posting here, it is a rule violation.

Locking it down,
Osamenor
 
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