Is there any way to find out the age when you will get married ?

[Angels]

I want to find out how to find at what age someone will get married using the Natal Chart?

[Jucy]

Originally Posted by Angels

I want to find out how to find at what age someone will get married using the Natal Chart?

I took a VERY quick look at your chart. For you, I would guess within 2 years (Saturn return) because you have a full 7th house. Marriage is VERY important to you, and because of that and other things, you'll get married again. Also Mercury indicates marrying at a younger age.

Are you engaged? Or waiting for your love to pop the question?

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Angels

I want to find out how to find at what age someone will get married using the Natal Chart?

There's a "Delineating Marriage Medieval Method" thread at http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=49297 as well as "Delineation of Marriage (Hellenistic Method)" at http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=49434

[Alice McDermott]

Originally Posted by Angels

I want to find out how to find at what age someone will get married using the Natal Chart?

I have detailed many of the astrological signatures here: http://aliceportman.com/determining-...m-a-horoscope/

Alice

[Angels]

Originally Posted by Jucy

Are you engaged? Or waiting for your love to pop the question?

you mean i will get married in 2 years? from now on or i will get married at my early age?

[Angels]

Originally Posted by Alice McDermott

I have detailed many of the astrological signatures here: http://aliceportman.com/determining-...m-a-horoscope/

Alice

when do u think i will get married ? i dont know how to do the calculation my self as i am not an astrologer

[Angels]

Originally Posted by Jucy

Are you engaged? Or waiting for your love to pop the question?

I was married for 76 days (early marriage at my 20 one month to 21) My ex was a wavery gemini and he left me without my will and married someone else.

Now parents dont want me to be single all my life thye been advicing me to change my mind what i tell them was if i am fated to marry again i will if not i wont.

so i just need to check does my chart showing any sign?

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Angels

when do u think i will get married ? i dont know how to do the calculation my self as i am not an astrologer

None of us were astrologers to begin with Angels and we all had to start somewhere, so we all learned how to read a chart. It is an interesting and useful exercise! To help you with your question I am posting a working example from another thread which gives step by step directions if you have an interest to follow those helpful directions

Originally Posted by Omnisphericus

This is very intriguing subject isn't it?

Well, I must mention in the very beginning in explaining the methods here that they are of medieval astrology type (Bonatti, Abu Ali, Al Khayat and etc.).
To say that the method is 'Traiditional' is really using very wide range of time span in which different techniques for delineating marriage were used.
For example, the Hellenistic Astrologer's (Valens, Dorotheus and etc.) have used methods on their own, methods which I'll probably (not even later) not explain on this thread, but we can open another thread for that matter.
As this section of Traditional Astrology is quite new and in its beginnings, we now trow out the techniques here and there and title them as "Traditional". I hope that in the future we can make sub sections of traditional astrology, such as: "Medieval Astrology", "Hellenistic Astrology", Renaissance Astrology" and etc..

There are certain rules in Medieval Astrology compiled which can give quite good and workable methods for delineating marriage. The rules one can learn for a short period of time, but the practice is what is needed in order these rules to become second nature of the astrologer's intuitive tool in delineating such things as Marriage in the chart. This is what I would like to do on this thread: to practice as much charts as I/we will have the time to do it.


The Technique

The Compound Almuten is what is very practical thing in almost all methods used in medieval delineation. It seems that Bonatti and other medievals were very fond on Compound Almutens.
I will first give delineation for male charts, and in some later post will explain the delineation for female charts.

Finding the Compound Almuten for Marriage:

Find the Rulers of all 5 dignities for these places:

1. 7th house cusp

2. Lord of the 7th house

3. Planets in 7th house (if any)

4. Moon

5. Venus

6. Part of Marriage (According to Hermes) (ASC + VE - SA) for Men.

The Planet which gets most points over these places is Almuten of Marriage.
But consider also if there are impediments to these places.
If there is affliction to 7th house (by some Malefic's square or opposition), to the Moon (aspect, combust, cadent, retrograde and etc.)

See if one of the individiaul Almutens over these places is joined to the Lord of the Ascendant or its Almuten or the Lord of the 7th or its Almuten.
If they are in trine or sextile, and if especially in reception, then the native will rejoice in living beautiful life with his wife according to his desire.

But if the aspects were without reception, or if the aspects were square or opposition, then the significations will be judged lower.

Bonatti:



Example:


This is the chart of Akihito, Emperor of Japan

His chart is given on astrodatabank site as a chart of a man with successful marriage.

First we make Compound Almuten for these places:

1. 7th House Cusp at 28 Gemini:
Mercury 5, 3,
Saturn 3, 2
Jupiter 3
Sun 1

2. Ruler of 7th, Mercury in 16 Sag
Jupiter 5, 3
Sun 3
Saturn 3
Venus 2
Moon 1

3. Planets in 7th - there are no planets here

4. Moon 20 Pisces
Jupiter 5
Venus 4, 3
Mars, 3, 2, 1
Moon 3

5. Venus 15 Aquarius
Saturn 5, 3
Mercury, 3, 1
Jupiter 3, 2

6 Part of Marriage at 29 Sag
Jupiter 5, 3
Sun 3
Saturn 3, 1
Mars 2

Total:
Mercury 12
Saturn 20
Jupiter 29

No need to calculate further, Jupiter is Almuten of Marriage.
Look how strong is that Jupiter up there on MC.
He is receiving the Sun by sextile and the Part of Marriage on the Ascendant.

7th house cusp not impeded.
Its lord - Mercury, cadent (but in the first sign), not afflicted by Malefic's square or opposition, not by combustion.
Moon - not afflicted.
Venus - Saturn receives here in Aquarius.
Part of Marriage not afflicted, but indeed highlightened by ASC and Sun.

Lord (and also Almuten) of the 1st, and the Lord (and also Almuten) of the 7th are in Sextile. Jupiter receives Mercury.

Quite fortunate chart for marriage.

[Angels]

Hello!

first off all thankyou so much for taking time to reply my question

I have been going through all the post related to how to find the marraige age and so on i have read your post on this and checked all the example u have given still i am feeling lost like as if i am at 1st day at Algebra class hahaha.


if you have managed to do the calculation can you please help me with it please.

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Angels

Hello!
first off all thankyou so much for taking time to reply my question

I have been going through all the post related to how to find the marraige age and so on i have read your post on this and checked all the example u have given still i am feeling lost like as if i am at 1st day at Algebra class hahaha.


if you have managed to do the calculation can you please help me with it please.

Hello Angels

The most important question is how accurate is your natal chart ascendant?

Fortunately you have been married once already and there is a technique a few on this forum have successfully used to check the accuracy of their ascendant, using their marriage chart, http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=46743 so let's begin by verifying your ascendant using your marriage chart.

The marriage chart is the place, date and time of the marriage - particularly the time that the vows were exchanged

[Angels]

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC

Hello Angels

The marriage chart is the place, date and time of the marriage - particularly the time that the vows were exchanged

marriage happened on the 25th of june 2005 around 12-1 noon

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Angels

marriage happened on the 25th of june 2005 around 12-1 noon

Which city or town? Important to have a closer estimate of the time you exchanged the vows - can you remember Angels?

[Angels]

London England, 25th june 2005 Time 12-1 noon

I had saturn transist that time which started around mid 2003 :|

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Angels

London England, 25th june 2005 Time 12-1 noon

I had saturn transist that time which started around mid 2003 :|

I have attached a marriage chart for mid-way between 12:00 and 13:00 for you to work with. The details how to use this method are on the thread http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=46743 It would be very helpful if you can provide a more accurate time for the actual exchange of the vows

[Angels]

thats wow!!

i rem it was 12-1 nearly 11-58 or 12-58 something. our ceremoney started around 10 am but we got stuck in the traffic and later by the time he put the ring on it was 12-58 and he was so upset as the time was nearing 1noon because when my parents checked with astrologer for good time for marriage they said it hould be between 10 - 1noon.

when he panic about the time i really thought he is the on he will be there he really care about we should get married at a good time but He left me

it should be 11-58 or 12 -58

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Angels

thats wow!!

i rem it was 12-1 nearly 11-58 or 12-58 something. our ceremoney started around 10 am but we got stuck in the traffic and later by the time he put the ring on it was 12-58 and he was so upset as the time was nearing 1noon because when my parents checked with astrologer for good time for marriage they said it hould be between 10 - 1noon.

when he panic about the time i really thought he is the on he will be there he really care about we should get married at a good time but He left me

it should be 11-58 or 12 -58

Never mind Angels, people can be disappointing. Nevertheless it is good we have something accurate to work wit so we can create the two charts for those two times.

We now need to discover which chart in particular connects to your natal horizon.

I also uploaded a 10:00AM chart as that was the intended time of the wedding but traffic intervened. It's not a good idea to rush these things so I shall study these charts. Meanwhile you may find it useful and interesting if you read the threads I previously linked

[Angels]

Is there any way you can find if i will get married again?

it into my head and making me worried one said parents were saying get married soon you cant live all by your self.

the other side i cant take it i dont want to take risk.

but if i am fated then i will isnt it?

Am i fated to get married again? can u see any signs?

[Angels]

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC

Never mind Angels, people can be disappointing. Nevertheless it is good we have something accurate to work wit so we can create the two charts for those two times.

We now need to discover which chart in particular connects to your natal horizon.

I also uploaded a 10:00AM chart as that was the intended time of the wedding but traffic intervened. It's not a good idea to rush these things so I shall study these charts. Meanwhile you may find it useful and interesting if you read the threads I previously linked

i just checked with my mum she says after 11:45 so i am sure it was at 11:58 am because i remember he showed me his watch saying come Quick its nearly getting late we got only couple of mins for the good time to end (u know traditionally they wont marry after 12 they say its bad time)

so i belive it should be 11:58 when i saw his watch it was 11:56 then the marriage happened within 5 mins.

[Angels]

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC

Never mind Angels, people can be disappointing. Nevertheless it is good we have something accurate to work wit so we can create the two charts for those two times.

We now need to discover which chart in particular connects to your natal horizon.

I also uploaded a 10:00AM chart as that was the intended time of the wedding but traffic intervened. It's not a good idea to rush these things so I shall study these charts. Meanwhile you may find it useful and interesting if you read the threads I previously linked

i do understand the means of the planets and signs, i do understand what happens when specific planet faces the other specific planet.

but a bit confused with how u calculate the Asc/dec and angles and so on. its really confusing me.

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Angels

Is there any way you can find if i will get married again?

it into my head and making me worried one said parents were saying get married soon you cant live all by your self.

the other side i cant take it i dont want to take risk.

but if i am fated then i will isnt it?

Am i fated to get married again? can u see any signs?

Angels it is is said that "The planets IMPEL they do NOT compel"

Therefore, each individual has a choice.

What is necessary is to discover the natal promise of the chart and whether marriage is promised by the natal chart and if so how many marriages. BUT this can only be done with an accurate ascendant which is dependent on an accurate time of birth.

Even if marriages are promised in the chart, the individual has the choice of whether or not to marry

Originally Posted by Angels

i do understand the means of the planets and signs, i do understand what happens when specific planet faces the other specific planet.

but a bit confused with how u calculate the Asc/dec and angles and so on. its really confusing me.

There's just one way to calculate accurate ASC/DESC/IC/MC angles and that is by having a correct time of birth Angels.

I assume your mother has confirmed that your time of birth is accurate, but even so, sometimes a mother's memory falters

Meanwhile, if you are choosing 11:58 time for the marriage chart, this means that the rulers of the ASC/DESC of the marriage chart must connect to the natal ASC/DESC. Rulers of the 11:58 marriage chart ascendant are Mercury and Jupiter therefore Mercury and Jupiter must somehow connect to your natal Capricorn/Cancer ASC/DESC axis and that's what I'm checking at the moment

[Angels]

My time of birth is accurate its IST 18:36 PM because my family is into astrology. for each of the children my gran parents get they natal chart written on the day the child is born

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Angels

My time of birth is accurate its IST 18:36 PM because my family is into astrology. for each of the children my gran parents get they natal chart written on the day the child is born

That's good to know Angels, it would be wonderful if all families did that!

although btw the chart you uploaded on the opening post states your time of birth as 18:39 - that's a difference of only 3 minutes from 18:36 but I'm checking with you anyhow

[Angels]

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC

That's good to know Angels, it would be wonderful if all families did that!

although btw the chart you uploaded on the opening post states your time of birth as 18:39 - that's a difference of only 3 minutes from 18:36 but I'm checking with you anyhow

yes it is! i was born on sunday the 1st of july 1984 at 18:39 pm IST in srilanka.

[JUPITERASC]

Originally Posted by Angels

yes it is! i was born on sunday the 1st of july 1984 at 18:39 pm IST in srilanka.

So then Angels follow the following guideline which has an example chart. Begin by studying your natal Sun

Originally Posted by Omnisphericus

In Women's chart the Sun is of great importance.

According to Ptolemy we seek to find the Sun in the two Oriental Quadrants: from AC to MC, and from DC to IC, because this signifies that the woman will be married in her youth and that she will take young man in her older years, but not an older husband.

But when the Sun is in the Occidental quadrants (from AC to IC, and from DC to MC), then her marriage is delayed or in youth she will take older man.

If the Sun is from the beginning of Aries till the middle of Taurus,
or from the middle of Leo all the way to the end of Virgo,
or from the beginning of Libra all the way to the middle of Scorpio,
or from the middle of Aquarius till the end of Pisces, and the significator (In women's chart this is the Lord or Almuten of the 7th house) is Occidental, she will marry in old age or with older man.

If the significator is under the Sun's beams, it signifies that she has no marriage.
If the Sun is in fixed sign signifies that she will be married to one man only.
But if in that sign there is Oriental planet, you will judge that the man will be young or that she will marry another one after that.
If the planet is Occidental, then he will be older.

If the Sun is in mutable sign she will have two husbands.
If the Sun is in cardinal sign she will have many men.



This is the chart of Jennifer Aniston.
She was very publicly married with Brad Pit and had numerous broken relationships after that.
Her Sun is in fixed sign, so she married once.
The problem is that this Sun is afflicted from the Lord of the 7th and the Sun itself is Almuten of the 7th. This is (and other testimonies) what brought divorce.

Jennifer was 31 years old when she married Brad, so not so young. Brad was 36, a little bit older then her.
Sun is in the Oriental Quarter, but from the Middle of Aquarius till the End of Pisces which testifies that the she will take older man and in her older years (older from Medieval viewpoint).
With the Sun in the same sign there is occidental planet, which again testifies about older man and marriage in older years.

[Angels]

Originally Posted by JUPITERASC

So then Angels follow the following guideline which has an example chart. Begin by studying your natal Sun

yea i am understanding a bit now

it will take me time some time to learn i have never thought about all these " Astrology,numerology and palmreading" but when at somepoint my life twisted around i was haunted by the thoughts how to find is there any change.

later i learnt palm reading i can give accurate reading so far my prediction havent missed i have some little interest in numerology too and picking up bit by bit on that

Astrology is confusing me due to the big wheel chart. now i understand the AC/DC with your help.