thoughts on my chart

IleneK

IleneK

Premium Member
I always use both whole, Regiomontanus. And sometimes I also check Placidus, to see how different the cusps may be from Regio. Can be helpful and interesting.



JUPITERASC said:
nevertheless keep in mind that some astrologers use BOTH


i.e.
WHOLE SIGN HOUSES clearly determines TOPICS
and
eliminates ambiguity of HOUSE location of PLANET :smile:
and then
using ANY quadrant house system AS WELL
such as

Placidus
Alcabitius

et al

assists with determining PLANETARY STRENGTH

tsmalls comment explains the rationale



thus
tsmall uses BOTH whole signs AND Placidus
and
I use BOTH whole signs AND Alcabitius
however
some use whole sign AND Regiomontanus

clearly then

since there are multiple QUADRANT house systems
its a matter for personal choice

which to use
in tandem with WHOLE SIGN
IF one chooses to do so


i.e.
some astrologers prefer EITHER one OR the other NOT both :smile:
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JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
joe99 said:
The birth date is verified. 10.00 am.

I have a document
and my parents that say that.
Yeah my only question was to know your thoughts and opinion in general.
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My opinion is that it is possible your birth data is rounded up to the hour
My opinion is, study rectification
it's a good way to learn astrological principles


one method is outlined at
http://www.rosicrucian.com/zineen/pamen034.htm
the following is an example of a member using rectification :smile:


sinhtheslumberingdragon said:
Decreasing in light....

so I did my rectifcation all wrong...

I need to try again:whistling:
sinhtheslumberingdragon said:
So I remade my epoch chart with the proper rules....
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well done for persevering, you are clearly genuinely interested :smile:
and so
the following chart
is your Epoch chart
when using method at
http://www.rosicrucian.com/zineen/pamen034.htm
sinhtheslumberingdragon said:
prenatal_epoch.png









des is at 2 degrees sag....

recitfying my chart forward to 2 degrees gemini rising...
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which indicates
that according to this particular rectification method

birth occurred approximately sixteen minutes later
than the original given time
which is entirely possible

sinhtheslumberingdragon said:
rectified_chart.png
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Opal

Opal

Premium Member
Joe99,

Notice the difference between both charts one of them is the housing of Uranus, one has it in the third one the fourth. Both should be applicable to you. House 3 refers to siblings, short travels, and other things, fourth is of your home. There are eccentricities there.

Do you see, in your life eccentricities in either or both?
 
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Opal

Opal

Premium Member
I agree, 10:00 on the number happens, but it can be approximated, the hospital records aren’t done by us all. We would have it from your first breath. To the second, if we could.

Dubious us. 🙂
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Opal said:
I agree, 10:00 on the number happens,

but it can be approximated,
the hospital records aren’t done by us all.

We would have it from your first breath. To the second, if we could.
Dubious us.
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That's why astrologically rectification makes sense :smile:
delineating a natal chart takes time




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joe99

Member
Thank you everybody for explaining ,support and the links you sent me. Now things make more sense and have more clarity 👍
 
Opal

Opal

Premium Member
Uranus in the fifth also, has an advantage of an interest in the occult teachings. Downside, is that there could be family estrangement.

Fourth house also has arguments with neighbours and siblings.

Both of these houses are valid, if your time is close.

I like both house systems.

Placidus because it takes latitude and longitude into account. Those born nearer the equator it is not as noticeable.

Whole houses because it is balanced. I am a Libra sun and mercury, sometimes I try to achieve balance, inevitably the scales prefer to be unbalanced though.
 
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joe99

Member
both systems resonate with me looking at all the houses, i don't really know which one is more accurate. For some aspects i resonate more with whole signs for others more with placidus :biggrin:
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
joe99 said:
little update: probably considering everything, whole house resonates more

and speaks more truth to me.
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our planet earth orbits our sun as do the planets of our solar system
hence "...solar system..."

viewing the two charts, notice that natal sun changes houses :smile:



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Opal

Opal

Premium Member
joe99 said:
little update: probably considering everything, whole house resonates more and speaks more truth to me.
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Take your time. You don’t need to pick. Keep your mind open, learn the houses, and the signs. Little steps, and a open mind, opens your mind.
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
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HOUSES info :smile:

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html

joe99 said:
little update: probably considering everything, whole house resonates more and speaks more truth to me.
JUPITERASC said:
our planet earth orbits our sun as do the planets of our solar system
hence "...solar system..."

viewing the two charts, notice that natal sun changes houses :smile:
JUPITERASC said:
Mercury and Jupiter also both switch to different houses :smile:
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JUPITERASC said:
WHOLE SIGN HOUSES was both the original form of house division
as well as the dominant form of house division
for the first thousand years of the practice of western astrology

'.....Core significations of the houses were first developed
WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF Whole Sign Houses
and only make sense still today conceptually
within the context of that framework.

Whole Sign Houses creates a better distinction
between the 1st and 12th houses
so planets that rise over the horizon
do not immediately move into the 12th house
thus resolving a conceptual issue :smile:
with the significations usually associated with that house....'
Chris Brennan
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