Transneptunians, Isis, Selena,

SimplyRed

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h48 Transpluto-Isis
h49 Nibiru
h50 Harrington
h55 Vulcan
h56 Selena/White Moon
h57 Proserpina
h58 Waldemath Black Moon

These are from astro .com

Anyone like to share info about these. Isis conjuncts my sun moon midpoint


Nibiru associated with paranormal as mentioned here.
 

freedomlover

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I'm interested in learning about this, as well. I've been googling to find out. A little copy and paste for you on "Transpluto-Isis" :

This isn't an average "astrological definition", but it does, I think, give us a good idea of the concept of what Isis stands for. The whole article was very enlightening.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Virgo, the Virgin[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]The sign Virgo is one of the most significant in the zodiac for its symbology concerns the whole goal of the evolutionary process which is to shield, nurture and finally [252] reveal the hidden spiritual reality. This every form veils, but the human form is equipped and fitted to manifest it in a manner different to any other expression of divinity and so make tangible and objective that for which the whole creative process was intended. Gemini and Virgo are closely related but Gemini presents the pairs of opposites - soul and body - as two separate entities whereas in Virgo, they are blended and of great and supreme importance to each other; the mother protects the germ of the Christ life; matter guards, cherishes and nurtures the hidden soul. The keynote which embodies the truth as to the mission of Virgo most accurately is "Christ in you, the hope of glory." [/FONT]
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Further reading:

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And now for something completely different....... :D



WHAT ARE WINNING TRANSITS - Joyce Wehrman, $3.95
Contents: [SIZE=-1]Introduction; Format of the report; Choosing days; A word on Transpluto; The question of which house system to use; Absolute #1; Absolute #2; Summary; Simplified Winning Transit; Additional winning zodiacal timing information for casino gambling; Cardinal rules; Casino playing; What if your chart is not correct?; A winning example; Postscript from the publisher (Neil Michelsen).[/SIZE] Comment: Since Joyce's astro-gambling book was quashed after her death, this little monograph is about the closest we can get to her marvelous system. Gives an adequate, though rather brief sketch of her system & tells where you can get the (rather involved) calculations. (There are, for that matter, no lost formulas in her out of print book. Joyce's system, as described in this tiny monograph, does work, but it requires intelligence & persistence.)
Among other notes, I have found that aspects & position of Transpluto often have to do with major wins & winning times. (pg. 6) Absolute no. 1: Transiting Koch house cusps must be in aspect to your natal chart. Absolute no. 2: You must have a transiting planet activating your money and/or gambling placements in your natal chart. You must leave home (or your casino hotel room) at a moment which shows returning with more money than you left with, as each time you leave "home" establishes a new wagering chart. You must enter the casino on a "plus" time. You must begin to play during a "plus" time. You must stop when the "plus" time ends. Failure to strictly adhere to these rules results in financial loss.
Under Cardinal Rules: You must know the rules of the game you are playing. You must avoid Neptune, eg, alcohol. You must know why you are gambling (for fun? for money? to loose?). Be reasonable in your greed. Under Casinos: Slots in public view pay better than slots in out-of-sight corners. Slots with three reels have better odds than slots with four or more. Dollar slots pay off better than others. If you are losing when you should be winning, the other side may have a better chart than you do. If so, change dealers, or change casinos, or go home & wait for the next good moment. When you win, you should always tip. Regardless of the game, you must know how to bet, and you must have a birth chart accurate to at least one minute of time (instructions how to do this are included). Michelsen's postscript describes his own Winning experiences.
ACS, small paper, 15 pages.

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SimplyRed

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Thanks Freedom Lover

Great article, guess we will have to come up with our own cookbook definitions:)

Isis, Mary, Eve giver of life
 

SimplyRed

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Hey FreedomLover,

Just looked at your chart. Another venus in first house, MC ruled by Venus. Saturn is your ruler as you know and in second house.

You have the millionairs mars, Capricorn mars. Mars works great here.

I also see some sort of inclination toward innovative art and working independently, besides your name, LOL, North node in Gemini second exaltation, fifth house, art or Leo things again,
Jupiter in Gemini, your luck. writing, teaching, words, socializiing in groups.
Saturn in Second means a person who slowely over time builds their money base. with mars in Cap, A good bet you will.
I see ole Neptune way up there in tenth house. Not beyond to think your name could be fantasy, glamour, the arts or with the strong eight house occult leanings or a buisness associate for an agency or some sort of art innovative type place. the thing about Neptune you have you use it, or Neptune uses you.

You have a strong precence that has dignity. You enjoy doing things that are solid and have strong building potential.
This is somewhat in contrast with your freedom orientation, however achievement leads to freedom or they work together.

For Sag sun to shine in the group situation, and north node in gemini fifth house. Neptune is resolved somehow to blend in with the strong research, occult, or joint buisness. Freedom
You belong to any sort of buisness with a group that uses either art or spirituality as a medium. I see a very social person who uses research in some capacity to work this way, along with writing or teaching, Sag loves to teach and explore. Possibly joint business ventures as well.
My north node conjuncts your ascendant.
 

freedomlover

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SimplyRed,

Hey! Thanks so much for the reading. That was rather unexpected - but much appreciated! It was also one of the most "right-on" readings I've had so far.

Interestingly enough, in the middle of the night the other night ( I couldn't sleep) it suddenly hit me that a big part of my career is that I'm supposed to be working with large quantities of money - a channel for it. It also came to me intuitively that the Moon was conjunct my Ceres in Pisces at the time I realized this. ( I made note of the time and checked it out. The Moon in Pisces was exactly conjunct my Progressed Ceres in Pisces.) This whole thing was a revelation to me and is helping me to finally get "un-stuck". I had tried about every avenue except that one. I do know that a lot of the art things that you mentioned will dove-tail with this - but the "big money thing" was the missing link.

Interestingly enough, I ran my own insurance business for 12 years, and was successful. However that season dried up, and I was guided intuitively to close it. I seemed to have thought that my days of working with money/security-type things were over - even after I got into astrology. But one look at my chart, and it should be obvious - DUH!

Actually, the thing that started the revelation the other night was this: I was laying there (4am) and all of a sudden it hit me - the dispositor of the MC - Venus - and my Venus is in Capricorn. I'm supposd to be working with money!

:eek: DUH! :eek: DUH! :eek: DUH!

I'm not sure what form this is going to take - but at least I am open to it now. However I am positive I will never go back into the insurance business. I do know that my childhood dream was to distribute food and other necessities to the poverty-stricken. I remember watching something on TV about missionaries/peace corp-type were taking supplies to some starving children in Africa. I remember thinking. "THAT is what I want to do."

Thanks again, SimplyRed! I was just sitting here ruminating on my money beliefs when your post came through. How timely!

What do you think it means that your NN is conjunct my AC? I'm in the very early stages of learning synastry.
 

Baroness

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I'm interested in learning about this, as well. I've been googling to find out. A little copy and paste for you on "Transpluto-Isis" :

This isn't an average "astrological definition", but it does, I think, give us a good idea of the concept of what Isis stands for. The whole article was very enlightening.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Virgo, the Virgin[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]The sign Virgo is one of the most significant in the zodiac for its symbology concerns the whole goal of the evolutionary process which is to shield, nurture and finally [252] reveal the hidden spiritual reality. This every form veils, but the human form is equipped and fitted to manifest it in a manner different to any other expression of divinity and so make tangible and objective that for which the whole creative process was intended. Gemini and Virgo are closely related but Gemini presents the pairs of opposites - soul and body - as two separate entities whereas in Virgo, they are blended and of great and supreme importance to each other; the mother protects the germ of the Christ life; matter guards, cherishes and nurtures the hidden soul. The keynote which embodies the truth as to the mission of Virgo most accurately is "Christ in you, the hope of glory." [/FONT]
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Further reading:

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Trans-pluto - (Astrology): Definition[/FONT]
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And now for something completely different....... :D





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This is a great booklet, the same author wrote a book called Winning!! Zodiacal Timing (Revised).

She talks more about Transpluto in the book, I thought it was interesting that she also said Transpluto is always involved in major earth changes like earthquakes and volcanos.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/56192424/Winning
 

LionLady

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h48 Transpluto-Isis
h49 Nibiru
h50 Harrington
h55 Vulcan
h56 Selena/White Moon
h57 Proserpina
h58 Waldemath Black Moon

These are from astro .com

Anyone like to share info about these. Isis conjuncts my sun moon midpoint


Nibiru associated with paranormal as mentioned here.

I can only answer on two, possibly three, of these.

Transpluto is a "hypothetical" planet, whose existence has been proposed by various astronomers because of unexplained anomalies in the orbits of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Whether all of these anomalies have been explained by discoveries beyond Pluto since 2000 (Eris, Sedna etc) I don't know.

It is definitely NOT one of the TransNeptunian points posited by the Hamburg School - these are:

Cupido; Hades; Zeus; Kronos; Apollo; Admetus; Vulcan; Poseidon.

Just to confuse matters, there was also a hypothetical planet Vulcan - orbiting inside Mercury (between Mercury and the Sun) suggested at the end of the 19th century. I suspect this may be the one given by Astro.com as none of the other Trans-Neptunians are listed.

Astrologers have designated Transpluto variously as Bacchus (Transpluto - or should we call him Bacchus by Hawkins), Persephone (Persephone IS Transpluto by Valerie Vaughan) and apparently now Isis. Personally I have done a lot of work on the placements and cycles and my feeling is that the planet is closer to Pan than Bacchus (although these two figures are sometimes considered to be similar I feel that Pan is closer to the earth - greener if you like - than Bacchus). The fact is that the orbital period ("year") of Transpluto is around 720-750 years, so the placement in a sign is definitely more related to eras than people; houses and relationships with other planets are more personal. The "year" is also interestingly close to one-third of the 2160 years it takes for the precession of the equinox through one sign:innocent:

I suggest you Google Transpluto and look for stuff by Hawkins or Vaughan connected with it. It is out there.

Now - Waldemath Black Moon: This is the correct placement for an object also known as Dark Moon Lilith. Not to be confused with Black Moon Lilith which is a point not an object, with completely different cycles.

There is an excellent short article explaining the differences here:
http://www.astrologysoftware.com/resources/articles/lilith.asp?orig=

I have a print off of a longer article by Sue Simmons but I didn't bookmark the site and can't now find it. However, she does have a Yahoo group with information on the subject, and the article may be there.

This object was one of the very first objects noted by astronomers when telescopes were introduced in the 1620s. But it is so diffuse it can only be seen at Full (opposite Sun) when it appears as a dark red glow, or New (conjunct Sun) when it can occasionally be seen - with great care and if at the right latitude - crossing the disc of the Sun. There has been sporadic astronomical research at least until the 1960s, but it is so expensive now to devote telescope time to such odd objects .......

You can read Delphine Jay and Ivy Goldstein-Jacobsen for history and interpretations of this moon, but don't use the ephemeris. If astro.com are calling it the Waldemath Black Moon they are almost certainly using the correct ephemeris. It is also in Solar Fire as Wm Dark Moon (I think) - one of the optional points.

Being a maverick (see Transpluto above) I prefer to call her the Shadow Moon - if only to distinguish her from the Black Moon point. If you read up on the history you'll see why. The orbital period of 119 days and the lunation period (from Full to Full or New to New relative to Earth) of 177 days are so close to the Luna Moon's, and its density is so low that I do wonder if perhaps this is a cloud of fine dust from the impact that created Luna (now accepted by scientists) that is gradually coming together to form another body for our solar system:wink:

There is a booklet about Black Moon Lilith called "Black Moon Lilith" by M Kelley Hunter which should still be available; also a book called simply "The Black Moon Book" usually listed under the name of Francis Santoni, which has an introductory piece about Liliths by Demetra George.

I've heard about Selene - the White Moon, but not used her or read anything about her.

Hope this all helps
 
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