Help! Extreme laziness has colored my life :(

Jcoors

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Hey guys, thank you very much for all this feedback! I just got back home from work (yeah, I'm working as I struggle through all this, but dragging my feet), I will respond in more depth in a little bit. Thanks again!
 

Jcoors

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Ragey
1.
"you have your moon in the same house as me, 8th house, you really rely on external resources don't you! but interestingly enough, chiron is in 8th...does someone take care of you? "
My dad helps me out financially; is that what you mean by external resources?

2.
"His Astraea is in capricorn in 3rd house, interestingly enough, he may be stubborn to other forms of opinions and communications, and his need for respect could be keeping him from doing things that may otherwise make him look foolish, he may not take out advice at all o_O

but then again, jupiter does conjoin it and saturn sextiles, but vesta has a nice quincunx so perhaps he may only adhere to his fathers demands and not his friends. "
I have been known to be stubborn, I take people's advice but then I listen to the next person who speaks and I listen to theirs too, so not a whole lot sticks. It's only the mistakes I make that seem to stick, like I'm incredibly dense. My dad's demands I rebel against but then come around to, at least traditionally...also I have a great need to feel respected, I'm a perfectionist, and I hate hate hate looking foolish, although I am learning through hard experience that I have to make mistakes and try things in order to grow.
I tried looking online and couldn't find much on Astrea in 3rd house in Capircorn.

Astrologer
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"When someone sun is receiving hard aspects from the outer planets, it tends to overshadow the sun's expressions, so sometimes you will shine being a Cappi/Saturn type and then other times you will be much more scorpion as your Asc ruler is pluto"
Yes, my energies are very erratic, to the point where I think I might have bipolar disorder. Sometimes happy and extroverted, then other times depressed down and self critical.

2.
"additionally, jupiter is retrograde, going backwards, therefore looks inside for expansion not outside.

Jupiter Retrograde
* has doubts about what they deserve and so ...
* finds it easy to settle for crumbs
* feels superior in some way inside
* abundance is felt on the inside
* looks inside for answers to religious questions"
This is all true. I'm much more interested in delving spiritually inward than traveling around the world. I also feel superior in some ways to people, but have little self confidence in other ways (especially with my memory, which cripples my confidence).
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Retrograde Jupiter: These people are capable of taking advantage of opportunities that others ignore or pass by. They prefer to “take another crack” at things others have tried & failed. Their moral & ethical code, religion & philosophy are their own. They seek answers from within rather than subscribing to the standard dogma. They seek abundance in new, untried & unproved areas."
I have my own moral and ethical code, my religion and philosophy is my own, and I don't sucribe to the standard dogma. I don't have enough experience in life to judge how I prefer to take advantage of work opportunities.

3. You write:
"now jupiter is within 5' of 3rd house cusp and is said to be more effective there, so next we look at how jupiter is aspected. the conjunction to neptune, suggests spiritual matters, faith, religion and poss being overgenerous to siblings & 3rd house issues."
Spiritual matters yeah, faith and religion not really (I need evidence for which to rest beliefs), not being overgenerous to siblings, not sure what you mean by 3rd house issues.

"Now what I have just noticed IS progressed mercury has turned retrograde. This IS important as it suggests he has progressed to becoming *less talkative* and more analytical and feels less need to communicate with people. Not only that it's in virgo - Virgp is a *worrier* and overanalyses things and churns them over and over......So what was once a happy go lucky outwardly focused chappie has evolved into an introvert who doesn't feel the need to socialise (jupier retrograde)"
Yes, I've become less talkative over the past couple of months. For a very long time I knew something was wrong/off with me, and I kept asking everyone I talked to for their advice (outwardly focused). I couldn't figure it out on my own. I don't think I was happy go lucky though. I got burned one too many times on it and I realized their advice was ******** and that I had to find my own way.

Now I'm finding that by extending myself verbally I make myself vulnerable and give people a way to attack me. I'm still verbal with people I trust and respect, but I feel huge walls with people who I don't know are my friends. I am trying to get over this and learn to be social without exposing myself, but it's hard, again, especially with my memory problems (why do I have such memory problems? I see no evidence for it in my chart, my guess is that my decade+ of rotting away in my apartment doing nothing has eroded my brain, that or the continuous stress I've been under in the past 5 years).

I do feel the need to socialize though - I want to expand my circle of friends. This is pronounced now in my progression chart. I think it's important for my success and happiness to make new friends.
"prog mars is now 2' Saggi and when it gets to 6' Saggi it will conj 2nd house cusp (Equal house) and this 'should herald' independence as Saggi, Aries and Aquarius are extremely independence biengs. It could also suggest earning money in Saggi 9th house matters like, law, the police, religion, long distance travel, teaching, philosphy the list goes on...."
When will it get to 6' Saggi? How long does it last for?

"Neptune is tight opposition to moon, suggesting emotional disillusionment, connected to mother/women. Possibly smother loved or emotionally unavailable. As neptune is in the personal inner life sector of chart I expect that neptune to be felt as quite personal. Whereas I have this aspect with neptune 9 conj 10th and find it hard to 'personally' indentify with it.. "
This is true. I looked to women for so long to fulfill my emotional connections, it is so hard, but I am learning to rely on myself, be happy on my own, without relying on women. Additionally, I have this vision that there are some women out there who are morally pure, illuminous beings, and I really want that in a mate. I am continously disappointed though. My mind keeps going back to my ex (who I dated for 3.5 years from 2005-2008), we had a mutual breakup but then I chased after her until she wanted nothing more to do with me. I have an image in my head that she's the best I will ever have (I've been on some dates lately, but for whatever reason they don't really like me), although I hope that's not true.

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Thanks guys for your feedback, I'm learning a lot.
 
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Jcoors

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I have a question regarding secondary progressions. As I mentioned earlier, I've had for the past 5 years at least, and it's getting worse, memory problems, especially relating to organizing (called executive function) but also related to recall, and an inability to focus on details or to concentrate for a long period of time (ADD?).

On my secondary aspects chart, I have Neptune 28°52' Я Sagittarius, in House II, and it's in this degree for BASICALLY MY ENTIRE LIFE, through 2040 and from at least 2001. This is crazy. This is what it reads:

"Interpretation of the 28° Sagittarius symbolic degree
"A man does somersaults in a hay field while a hare runs away."
Childish, unstable, and timid character. Success can be achieved in modelling, coaching, or attending to the needs of wealthy people. Elegant sports such as golf or horse riding are also very favoured. Should the natal chart concur, there may be a disease affecting the brain."

I'm wondering if anyone has any feedback on this degree, why it's so dominant in my chart, and if there's anything I can do about it. I definitely feel as if there's a disease affecting my brain, and I often times feel unstable and timid. Thank you.
 

Rageypoo

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Robert hand touches on some important notes when it comes to mental health. If you haven't read his book "planets in transit" I highly recommend you do so, the general idea is that, everything is all in your mind, however real, it can be overcome with some mental discipline. I mean think about it, you're here, you know what you are going through, you're already taking the steps to be aware of a problem! meditate, and I mean seriously find out how to meditate, have a mental 1 on 1 with yourself, relax, soak up the sun, slow time down, and really make the reality YOU want.

Everything is nothing and something all at once, even a beam of light will change once observed, so influenced can be of the mind.
 

Jcoors

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Hi Ragey,

Thanks for the response. I appreciate it, I know how to meditate - I've practiced Vipassana for quite awhile - and while I think some diseases have a mental component, I also think others can have physical origins which can be solved by finding the right supplement, lifestyle change, surgery, etc. I'm of course trying to structure my life so that this disease is minimized, which maybe is what you are referring to, but I'd relaly like to do more than just find a work-around solution, I want the underlying problem itself to be taken care of :)

I will check out Robert Hand's book, thank you!
 

Rageypoo

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Hi Ragey,

Thanks for the response. I appreciate it, I know how to meditate - I've practiced Vipassana for quite awhile - and while I think some diseases have a mental component, I also think others can have physical origins which can be solved by finding the right supplement, lifestyle change, surgery, etc. I'm of course trying to structure my life so that this disease is minimized, which maybe is what you are referring to, but I'd relaly like to do more than just find a work-around solution, I want the underlying problem itself to be taken care of :)

I will check out Robert Hand's book, thank you!

you're welcome, Things like this can sometimes be easily squished and stamped out, others take a wile. If you have been meditating for a wile and you think you "know" how to do it, perhaps its time to switch things up into something you don't know. Now this is very loose advice, I am a firm believer that just because something doesn't work right away doesn't mean it will not work over time, quitting on something too quickly is usually a step back, but what I'm suggesting is, it may be healthier for you to explore a more unknown path in order to dig deeper into that psyche of yours.

could be something as simple as a childhood issue that came about long ago, and simply writing about your childhood past could give you some insight on the matter, and then by writing it out, bam now you've released a bit of pent up issues into a story. I found the article "pen, paper, power!" to be interesting wile I was in a college class, check it out

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/1999/04/25/pen-paper-power.html
 
I have a question regarding secondary progressions. As I mentioned earlier, I've had for the past 5 years at least, and it's getting worse, memory problems, especially relating to organizing (called executive function) but also related to recall, and an inability to focus on details or to concentrate for a long period of time (ADD?). [hmmmm, I still think this is linked to mercury going backwards, retrograde]

On my secondary aspects chart, I have Neptune 28°52' Я Sagittarius, in House II, and it's in this degree for BASICALLY MY ENTIRE LIFE, through 2040 and from at least 2001. This is crazy. This is what it reads:[that's why you should ignore and not attempt interpretations as it means very little]

I'm wondering if anyone has any feedback on this degree, why it's so dominant in my chart, and if there's anything I can do about it. I definitely feel as if there's a disease affecting my brain, and I often times feel unstable and timid. Thank you.

the most important things with progressions are the personal planets NOT outers (saturn, uranus neptune, pluto)

Spiritual matters yeah, faith and religion not really (I need evidence for which to rest beliefs), not being overgenerous to siblings, not sure what you mean by 3rd house issues.
you MISS read this take out the word NOT....:w00t:
 
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