Hillary clinton - next USA president ?

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JUPITERASC

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LovelyMissAries said:
I don't think she has Gemini rising because she's too stiff during her speeches.
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At a political event in Concord, N.H., in the 1980s
New Hampshire astrologer Celeste Longacre said she approached Mrs. Clinton,
who told her she was born at 8 p.m.
Many celestial soothsayers suspect she is deliberately withholding records to throw people off.
“She may herself not want to give out the exact time of birth”

Well whichever time, HRC has MERCURY in SCORPIO
and the ascendant for the 8PM chart is GEMINI
muchacho said:
That's the way I see it too.
She prefers highly controlled environments.
That's where she seems to function very well.
And that's typical Scorpio.
A typical Gemini would hate that.
The Gemini needs room for improvisation and loves going off the script.
I think we've seen that clearly in the last debate where HRC seemed to feel more at home.
DJT seems to feel more at home in town hall meetings which are less scripted.
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To be realistic
presidential debates as well as political speeches necessarily occur in "highly controlled environments" :smile:

Whoever wins 8 November 2016 Astrologer Ms. Ackerman predicts early tumult for the next president
pointing to celestial alignments beginning around inauguration time.
“The honeymoon,” she says, “is over before it begins.”
 
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savanna

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Marc Penfield claims that in a phone interview with an employee of the birth registry, the time 2:18 am was confirmed by the registrar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffCemlJ7V0

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http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Clinton,_Hillary
 
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JUPITERASC

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Hillary Clintons
unknown unverified time of birth
is a conundrum :smile:
Many astrologers have agreed
Hillary was born around 8 am.
That gives her Scorpio rising.

BUT

MARK SELTMAN disagrees and is of the opinion that Hillary has a fiery earthy Capricorn hand with square palms
straight short fingers, and separated head and life line
but has no earth in her horoscope
except for her north node in Taurus.


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So

Mark Seltman believea that
HRC has got either Capricorn rising

or :smile:

Saturn in Leo on her ascendant

'......If Capricorn is rising, her birth time is between 11:05 am and 12:59 pm.

If Saturn is rising, her birth time would be around 12:17 am. That fits her personality best....' http://blog.markseltman.com/2016/10/...s-perspective/
 
Melaike

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JUPITERASC said:
Hillary Clintons

Mark Seltman believea that
HRC has got either Capricorn rising

or :smile:

Saturn in Leo on her ascendant

'......If Capricorn is rising, her birth time is between 11:05 am and 12:59 pm.

If Saturn is rising, her birth time would be around 12:17 am. That fits her personality best....' http://blog.markseltman.com/2016/10/...s-perspective/
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But she has a pretty feminine pear shaped body opposite of Masculine Leo rising type.

I'm Leo rising with Saturn in the first house,I don't think she has the same placement in her Chart
 
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Melaike said:

But she has a pretty feminine pear shaped body opposite of Masculine Leo rising type.

I'm Leo rising with Saturn in the first house,I don't think she has the same placement in her Chart
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Life long friends publicly stated their recollections :smile:
more than two decades ago



Kannon said:
I came across this article over a year ago.
The enlarged portion is taken from the first column, second section, and you can view it for yourself here:
https://kannonmcafee.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/hrc-sun-times-jan93-article-p1.jpg

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Lynn Sweet interviewed Hillary Clinton for the article and knows she saw a document of some kind related to the birth (probably a family record).
That is why the 8 PM time, which seems to have originated from that time.
This is on record now at Astrodatabank in the Source Notes section.

There never was any news article stating she was born "in time for breakfast" as was previously claimed.
I and others went through every contemporary Chicago newspaper that could have given the announcement
and that never appeared anywhere.
The morning birth is mere legend.

"Early" in my view means between midnight/0:00 and around 8:00 AM. Add 12 hours and you get noon to 8 PM.

I believe the correct chart 14° Aries was arrived at by Astro-Intuitive on this AW forum thread:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5443

There has been another chart recently added to the ADB page for her,
which is based on a still invisible birth document claimed to have a birth time of 2:18 AM.
Many months ago I went through every chart possibility for her between 0:00 and 3 AM.
Absolutely nothing.
Leo rising for her is believable in theory,
but there is no substantiation in the progressions whatsoever for either a Leo or Virgo rising chart.

The 2 AM time was when her mother arrived at the hospital in my view.
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