Will I get a tax refund?
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RayAustin
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Scorpio80 said:11th for government money???
I never heard of such thing!!!
well ruler of the 11th is the moon, exhalted and applying trine to me, Mercury.
I notice POF is at an angle, looks good and it is depositer of my significator.
I am thinking yes.
can you explain why the 11th?
Thanks.
Because the government is the tenth house. The second from the tenth is their money. Tada!
You also have the POF conjunct (or atleast, near) the ruling cusp of the government.Ray
wintersprite1
Premium Member
Taxes are given to the 8th house. So Mars would be the ruler of the 8th. The Moon does indeed trine Mercury but not before it hits Saturn Rx in the first.... The good thing I suppose is that Saturn and Mercury are in Mutual Reception.
That was pointing out the obvious, but not comfortable reading the rest for details... The Moon will Trine Mars eventually. I am thinking yes, but some delays...
TK
That was pointing out the obvious, but not comfortable reading the rest for details... The Moon will Trine Mars eventually. I am thinking yes, but some delays...
TK
tikana
Well-known member
YES 11th house is govt moneyScorpio80 said:11th for government money???
I never heard of such thing!!!
well ruler of the 11th is the moon, exhalted and applying trine to me
I notice POF is at an angle, looks good and it is depositer of my significator.
I am thinking yes.
can you explain why the 11th?
Thanks.
cause govt is 10th house
if you are in state of california YOU ARE NOT getting any money soon cause we are broke! there is a refund freeze for at least 30 days .. if we do not get the money, we get IOU! roflmao
*grin*
T
wintersprite1
Premium Member
Splitting hairs. A refund is not money from the government. It is a return of money you over payed. An earned income credit would be monies from pooled taxpayers instead of the government. The IRS does act as the agent.
TK
Edit:sloppy grammar
wintersprite1
Premium Member
From Deb Houlding's Temples of the Sky:http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h8.html
The 8th house includes (and not limited to):
Taxes are an owed obligation to the IRS. A refund is money that was over payed and refunded to the taxpayer.
TK
The 8th house includes (and not limited to):
Taxes are an owed obligation to the IRS. A refund is money that was over payed and refunded to the taxpayer.
TK
RayAustin
Well-known member
Well, I think it's more the 11th, since it's free money, basically. It still is the government's money, however you want to dress it up. Following your logic we would be looking at the government's eighth house, not the querent's eighth house.
The government's eighth house is Saturn, where the querent sits. The government's obligated money sits in the ascendant--that's an excellent place for mutual reception, really. The moon trines Saturn -- so.. that's still a yes. Even though its a retrograde Saturn which indicates delay, it's still looks like a for sure to me.
Ray
The government's eighth house is Saturn, where the querent sits. The government's obligated money sits in the ascendant--that's an excellent place for mutual reception, really. The moon trines Saturn -- so.. that's still a yes. Even though its a retrograde Saturn which indicates delay, it's still looks like a for sure to me.
Ray
lillyjgc
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Wintersprite, I'm with you on this one.
H7 is *almost always* the *other* in a question like this and house 8 does rule other's resources and reading from point of view of ascendant, *shared resources* belongs to H8.
And yes, I think you will get your refund in about 7 *somethings* when your ruler, mercury, conjuncts the ruler of the eighth house, Mars. Mars is going to sextile venus again. Venus rules your second house of money.Both mercury and mars are both under Saturn's rulership and Saturn is the *natural* ruler of *the Government*.The moon also applies a trine to Saturn, located in your first house.
Cheers,
Lillyjgc
H7 is *almost always* the *other* in a question like this and house 8 does rule other's resources and reading from point of view of ascendant, *shared resources* belongs to H8.
And yes, I think you will get your refund in about 7 *somethings* when your ruler, mercury, conjuncts the ruler of the eighth house, Mars. Mars is going to sextile venus again. Venus rules your second house of money.Both mercury and mars are both under Saturn's rulership and Saturn is the *natural* ruler of *the Government*.The moon also applies a trine to Saturn, located in your first house.
Cheers,
Lillyjgc
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wintersprite1
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Logically then...
The 8th house is the house of taxes... that has been established. Whether a return or a payment due... taxes are the 8th house. If we asked the question, am I going to buy the new home or the question will the home be foreclosed on, either way we use the same house for the quested. We don't change it whether it is a gain or loss question. Does he love me, Does he hate me? Different questions same house.
Tax refunds are not free money. They are an overpayment of an obligation being returned.
TK
The 8th house is the house of taxes... that has been established. Whether a return or a payment due... taxes are the 8th house. If we asked the question, am I going to buy the new home or the question will the home be foreclosed on, either way we use the same house for the quested. We don't change it whether it is a gain or loss question. Does he love me, Does he hate me? Different questions same house.
Tax refunds are not free money. They are an overpayment of an obligation being returned.
TK
RayAustin
Well-known member
wintersprite1 said:
It pretty much is though.
There are people that get thousands and thousands, just because they have children to take care of. I fail to believe these people overpayed such thousands and thousands over the course of the year.I think the most simplest way, is to look at the government's money (11th), and see if we're gonna' get some; and then we could look at the politics of it.
Ray