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Unread 08-13-2010, 09:37 AM
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Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

Hello everybody,

I happen to some placements in my chart like Saturn in 7th House, 9th lord/10th lord in 7th house.Is it indicative that I will be successful in my career only after I get married.In other words, I have to depend on my family,relatives.friends,etc. for my success in general.Also if I am not mistaken my house of career does not have any planets in it.Please if the learned people here could shed some light on it.My details are as follows.

D.O.B : - 3rd May, 1987 (Male)
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Unread 08-13-2010, 04:36 PM
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seesaw chart, to Kapil

Kapil,

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I have to depend on my family,relatives.friends,etc. for my success in general.
You have a seesaw chart that is focused on both the left (self) and the right (others) side of the chart, so you go "back and forth" on things: sometimes you focus on others and doing for them, and sometimes it's about yourself and your own needs.

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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

Saturn restricts the activities of the house it's located. It also causes the opposite effect in the opposite house.
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Unread 08-15-2010, 04:05 PM
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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

Hi Tim,

Thanks for ur reply...:-)

actually i do not mind doing things for others and love helping people out...

and when i help people i do not expect anything in return...

but the problem is i do not like taking help from others...

as i feel that when people help they excersie a certain degree of control over me...

which i strongly dislike... :-(

Any comments/suggestions are welcome... :-)

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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

Dear Michael,

Many thanks for ur response..

Please if you could elaborate on that...

I am having difficulty understanding it...

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Unread 08-16-2010, 12:47 AM
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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

i don't think your sucess "depends on the spouse". It can show your business partner, who can be from another country.
saturn and uranus in the 7th house can delay marriage or maybe you just dont want it.
and also, dont forget about the 7th house ruler in the 11th house.
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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

Dear castelo,

Many thanks for ur reply.

When i said success depends on my spouse i meant Saturn in 7th generally delays marriage and the person is generally lucky after marriage....

So more or less the person is a late bloomer and in a way the person has to wait for his good luck (spouse)... so the dependence... :-)

Also if u could please elaborate on 7th House ruler in 11th House... :-)


And if I am not mistaken my 7th House ruler Mars is in 1st House...

:-) :-)

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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

mm82100 -

I would also look at Saturn in the 7th in relation to the kind of spouse, or the kind of relationship you may have.
Saturn in the 7th may - note I say `may', and not `will' - indicate that your partner is older than you, or they may be more serious and responsible than you, and they may behave like a parent figure towards you.

Should your partner try to control you - which she may try to do - then this is when you have to step up and be the one to determine how much she does, and how much you do. As you say, if she does too much for you, then you can lose power over some aspects of your own life. The idea is to stop this happening before it begins.
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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

Dear R4VEN,

Many thanks for ur reply.

Yes i really hate it when people try to control me. It is very depressing. :-(

Seriousness and maturity in a partner are very important i think.. :-)

Because i myself am very childish and playful, not necessarily irresponsible.

I think the qualities which are not possessed by me should be present in her.

This will help in attaining balance in a relationship/marriage.

Both the partners should complement each other well. :-)


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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

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Dear R4VEN,

Many thanks for ur reply.

Yes i really hate it when people try to control me. It is very depressing. :-(

Seriousness and maturity in a partner are very important i think.. :-)

Because i myself am very childish and playful, not necessarily irresponsible.

I think the qualities which are not possessed by me should be present in her.

This will help in attaining balance in a relationship/marriage.

Both the partners should complement each other well. :-)


Best Regards,

mm82100
When you say *success* what kind of success are you asking about exactly?

Saturn is the Lord of Karma and master teacher, but really he's trying to teach us about ourselves. It wants us to be responsible, hard working, dutiful and learn our Lessons properly, so they won't have to keep being repeated. Therefore, is usually suggests things slowing down, delays, limitations and restrictions so we can learn these Lessons.

What Saturn does is 'test' what is of value to you and what is working in your life. It wants structure and hard work. If something isn't working--- it may well end--- so something better can be put in it's place.


If you area wanting success in career and social standing look to 10th house, in creativity, self employment 5th. 7th is your marriage house and saturn suggests delays until at least first saturn return age 28-30ish.

Plus your saturn is retrograde (going backwards)

Saturn Retrograde
* feels inside that they're never good enough
* indulgent outward behavior may mask inner feelings of inadequacy
* hides fears


Retrograde planets
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22923
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-retrograde.htm
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5796&postcount=8
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5861&postcount=10
Pluto retrograde in scorpio above

THEN, it's conjunct Uranus (also retro) which suggests a conflict between freedom and individuality (Uranus the divorce planets) and Saturn who wants the status quo, hard work, duty and responsibilities and causes delays and frustrations.

THEN, saturn is opp mars in first house suggesting frustrations and inability to take actions sometimes..

Natal chart aspects
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects

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suggests some conflict between your desires and your sense of responsibility. There is conflict between a need for impulsive action, Mars behavior, and the conservative apprehension associated with Saturn. There is a sense of being rejected associated with this aspect. You establish goals out of realistic reach, and then suffer feelings of futility when you can't achieve them. You may over evaluate the accomplishments of others, and undervalue yours. Like yourself a little better, and establish objectives that are attainable in a detailed process.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/marsaspects.html#maosa
Mars is also a singleton and conjunct chiron.

Chiron thread
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9786
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17165
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11976
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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

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Saturn restricts the activities of the house it's located. It also causes the opposite effect in the opposite house.
Really? I doesn't apply in my chart, but I'll start looking at other people's charts to see
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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

of course, you have to look at the whole chart..
but i'll use my dad as a good example for saturn.
he had saturn and pluto in the 7th house. He just got married at 38! And until them he never really had a very long relationship.
But since then, he has been married with my mom and they one of the most happy couple i know.
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Re: Saturn in 7th:Success depends on my spouse ?

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of course, you have to look at the whole chart..
but i'll use my dad as a good example for saturn.
he had saturn and pluto in the 7th house. He just got married at 38! And until them he never really had a very long relationship.
But since then, he has been married with my mom and they one of the most happy couple i know.
Exactly, Saturn will delay commitment and pluto will transform
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