wELL, ONCE AGAIN i SIT DOWN AT MY DESK AND WITH THE INTENTION OF ADDRESSING WHAT WAS LEFT UNFINISHED YESTERDAY, READ OVER YOUR LATEST REPLY, SO AS TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT SEEMS TO BE OF A PRIORITY [whoops, darn caps-lock. but I'm not going to fix that, time is a valuable thing, and at my age it gets more valuable, quite noticeably, which each passing day] and I'm looking at your natal chart to get the full "Big Picture" of these quintiles matrices you got going on and [cue to sound of a thunderbolt, here] there's yet another quite impressive ...howdidievermissthat...
kind of matrix going on here
I am referring to the Mercury - Venus quintile which is almost perfectly exact as for if Mercury was just another 00° 06' 04" it would be, or if Venus were that much less, and that those two planets have the M.C. in a semi-quintile aspect between them.
Maybe you've heard of an odd configuration of a small matrix that is called the Yod? The "Finger of God"?
Well the "Traditionalists" will have you believe that it is two planets, or luminaries, or what have you, in sextile aspect to one anther that both are in aspect to a third which is directly opposite the mid-point between them. In effect it is involving three points on a 12 point matrix, i.e. a Grand Semi Sextile. The twelve point Star is said to be the path of discipleship, according to author Dorothy Leon. She may have wrote that it is the Star of the Path of Discipleship, or something very close along those lines, but definitely having to do with discipleship.
Dane Rudhyar wrote a number of times that 'the path of true discipleship begins in Virgo". I believe that to be for the reason [the often mentioning of this, but never giving any further explanation] that Dane saw that there are two ways one may take to follow the 360 Sabian Symbols, as they visually represent a path of transformation, but that the path for the spiritual aspirant is in the other direction. As I didn't come to see that myself until after my book was published [but it will be in the revised edition and the revised manuscript is now in the publishers hands] and I've made mention of this quite a number of times in this forum, and all the others i've participated in the last, nearly, 14 years. The process when followed from Aries 01° to Pisces 30°. represents becoming enmeshed in the material realm, i.e. in Maya. Whereas if followed from Virgo 30° in the opposite direction to Libra 01° [which is just so where your natal Mercury doth sit]
There's just one little problem with this present belief that this configuration is what they say it is. Because it ain't.
As man is created in Gods' image, how many fingers do you suppose God has altogether. 12? ...and I did forget to mention that the Hebrew word for the number of ten is "Yod". The ancient Hebrews were master astrologers and in fact many a Jew today will tell you that the Jewish Bible, is really "The Big Book of Jewish Astrology", as even one member of this forum told me many years ago, I think that was Olivia, who hasn't been active here in years.
I had been a bit , just a skosh mind you, disappointed in your natal chart as it has all these lovely quintiles but it didn't tie in with your chart axis [if you'll glance at my natal chart and notice that the 'Harmonic rectangle" ...which is really four points of the Magen David, or Star of Solomon, minus tow that are in opposition... is also conjunct my M.C. and I.C. As the chart axis, i.e. the Asc. - Desc., M.C. - I.C. when interpreted through the Sabian Symbols found for the Zodiacal degrees for those four points, you have then [in the same order as I listed them] the "WHO". the "WHERE-TO", the "HOW", and the "WHY" of you life plan as given you by our Creator. This is for an interpretation involving your spiritual evolution, and that is about that cycle of the 360 that begins with Virgo 30°. As it is in the book that Dane published, "An Astrological Mandala" in Part three, chapter three, "The Cross and the Star" [The entire book is posted online, free to the public except for one chapter of minor importance anyways and is rather advanced in the scope it covers, and is more than likely to confuse most people rather than be of anything useful, anyways. "On The Binary Relationship of Signs". All of the 360 Sabian Symbols are there to be read, and I do so recommend Rudhyar for anything to do with these symbols, at least for the first year or five. Here's the link:
http://www.mindfire.ca/An Astrological Mandala/An Astrological Mandala - Contents.htm
As your natal Moon is in an aspect of in-conjunct with Venus but also just close enough to your natal charts' I.C., therein lies and answer to relieving that tension between the luminary and your Venus, as the Moon is about the emotions and ...need I say what Venus is about?... You might be interested in looking into that.
The Yod, being "The Finger of God" is said to be pointing to that which you are being advised to take notice of. As the meridian of your chart axis provides a perfect opposition for a Yod matrix as to the two astrological influences [Venus and Mercury] in the quintile aspect, one to another, and Venus being in a 36° to the M.C., Pluto clearly should ideally be in the 2nd degree of Libra. But the first degree of Libra is so special, u.p. It has a Sabian Symbol that is a depiction of an archetype in perfection, and in the original symbol as was given, an archetype made perfect by .... well, I think that you should read that Sabian Symbol for your self. I'm not a 'wordsmith", that is to say, I'm not a very good writer...adequate enough, but I do have trouble with expressing thoughts and English grammar was one of the two subjects I hated the most [biology, the other] math and science, mechanics, physics, etc. I got top grades... but I couldn't write you a poem if my life depended on it.
So, read up on the Yod, what it's affects are, how to work with it, but just apply it to these quintile type matrices... unless you wish to believe that God has twelve fingers....not that I'm being so presumptive to say how many fingers God may or may not have...I'm just saying, think for your self.
As to having Neptune in the Third House in quintile aspect to your Asc.
Well Edgar Cayce did give a great deal of importance to the Asc. in a persons chart. ...as for that addendum he once added after explaining that not everyone is affected by all the planets, in fact that's a rarity, most are affected from about 3 to 6, some even less, a few even more.. and that nothing that you see on your chart is even an active influence until a transiting influence activates what ever it might conjunct or make other type aspect to, but then it's limited to that which it affects and in turn affects others, not the entire chart unless everything is tied together, and then he added, "and all angles to the ascendant". Which I also interpret to mean all astrological Parts that have the Asc. as the Personal Point. i.e. the first value in an parts equation, e.g the Part of Fortune, Asc. + Moon - Sun, is in effect, Personal Point + Significator - Trigger. Getting back to Neptune in the 3rd House, the 3rd House being the House so involved with the mind and thinking, thoughts, communication... as to your question?
I would have to say most definitely,Yes but because your thoughts will have some effect on what you might dream of.
As for which House has any dominion over dreams, that I don't know, and I'm a bit embarrassed to admit as for having stated s often hat I am clairvoyant but only through the dream state. To be honest I've never looked into that.
...but, also, as to that remark about "and all angles to the ascendant. I' have wondered if He might have meant anything in aspect to the Asc. can be assumed to be on full burner from the get go... 24/7?
Just remember to keep in mind that it's possible that anyone of the planets may or may not be of any affect on you. That comes with observation or the use of a top notch clairvoyant.
Member Phoenix Venus has thread she initiated back in April of 2013 on Lucid Dreams, but I don't recall if much was contributed by other members to that thread or not.
I mention Phoenix Venus [P.V. for short] as she and I met through this forum a few days earlier that March. I made a rare venture into a different sub-forum to give some input on Her question, posted as a thread "Progress on the Guitar" [at least that's what I remember being the initial thread in which we first had any correspondence with each other. She had been a member of the forum for about a year or two by then and I had never even sen her name by post or thread before. We participated in a couple of other threads over the next few days, or a week, and then...and I've been trying to figure this out actually, I even sent Her a text message today asking her if she could remember, and she seemed to think it was in some thread or another other than those I was thinking of...but to get to the point here. It was just after, or it may have been just before that first contact in which I had one of the more "vivid" dreams of my life. {Vivid just my word for what she and others call Lucid] and I'm always quite aware that there is something special to be noted upon waking from one of these dreams. In it I find myself in a strange neighborhood,, wondering where my tuck is parked...realize, in the dream, that this neighborhood looks like it's of a type one would find on the East Coast of the U.S. [they are different in a way i can't quite describe...] and then it starts to rain, I see one of those more old fashioned grocery stores, like they had in the 20's to early 50's yet many continue on to this day, but more likely on the East Coast. In the store I'm shopping and I see a hat for sale, just like the one I had bought a couple of years previous, I get to the register, I note to the cashier that the price she quoted me is the receipt number and not the total for all I had bought the receipt number being 3 digits, I think it was 647... I've got this all written down somewhere bu have no idea where that is...the hat I bought in reality cost nearly $20 back in 2009, and so I put the hat on, grab the bag of other stuff I bought walk out the door and just about walk into a gal, about 5' 4", red hair, sort of Jewish looking, walking down the sidewalk and wearing the exact same hat i just bought, we exchange pardons, and begin a conversation she notices that I am heading in the same direction she is and invites me to walk along with her, so as o continue what has been a very cordial meeting and pleasant conversation and then we come to another one of those older type grocery stores, now vacated but under obvious renovation, and she turns to me and says, "this is going to be where I'm opening my new business, would you like to see inside?" and I say yes. I walk into the foyer, and notice a large pile of construction debris under the archway that leads to the main room of the old store and on the beam over that debris is a hand carved wooden sign that reads , REIKI, and she turns to me and points to the sign and says t me, "that's what my business is going to be about". ...and I wake up.
In one of those threads, we were mutually participating in, my dream came up for some reason that I mentioned it, and she asks me to give her the details...and ...I figure that you've already figured all this out yourself by now. Yeah, sit was her in my dream and that very same, identical to a "T" sing hangs on a beam over some debris in her dads' workshop were he hand carved it for her.
We became something of a team here at the forum for some years after, she's done the grammatical editing my book sorely needed but the publisher didn't provide, and added a bit of material of her own, we made a video about my book, I narrated and she the visual, technical stuff. We learned of a past life relationship we had as she was a companion of a good friend of mine in that life. We may have even gotten together,,,she lives in Maryland and we never have met in person, not to this day. But we very nearly did. I'm more than 34 years older than she is, and she was but 25 when we first met, I was nearly 59. My cancelling her visit at about the last possible minute kinda ...ya know? She has been absent from the forum for more than two years now. I really do miss her and her insights, help, and the repartee, etc.
There is also quite the synastry in natal charts between us and the one for the nation, and a certain historical religious figure, of whom is the subject of the book I wrote.
So...there's my "Dream of the Future" to add to this thread. ...
although... The first time I ever did dream of the future, I was 8 years old, and I self induced it... {"preprogramming"]after reading what two fellows had attempted, the technique hey used and took note of why hey were successful but failed to recognize it. [Because neither of them could read or speak Spanish, as the message they sought was answered by the attire they saw all the men wearing in their dream. i.e. Sombrero's. They were seeking the highest paying horse at a specific race track out of all races to be held the next day. that winning horses name was "Sombrero". As my dad like to "play the ponies" and would place a bet on occasion through the bookmaker where He worked [He was the foreman painter for the Beverly Hills Hotel back in the '50's and '60's] I told my dad I wanted to try to do it, he said here put this under your pillow [it was the racing form} and I caught him the next morning just before He left the house and told Him of the vivid dream I had that night. He listened, took the racing form, and said, 'Here's a horse that fits the description, I'll put a buck or two on it" ...and it was the highest paying winning horse at that racetrack that day. I never could do it again , though.
Why never again? As my mom explained it to me, I was allowed to do so once, so as to let me know of the gift, but using it for any sort of an advantage over others is karmically wrong.
My mom was the greatest spiritual teacher that I ever had. Maybe not the most educated, or knowledgeable of particular matters but as to understanding Truth, Love, the soul, our benevolent Creator, and most importantly, the "Golden Rule", she was.
Well, I got a few things covered that you asked about. New Years Eve has come and gone... lots of noise outside this past evening. It's nearly 3 a.m. here on the West coast.
I'll try to pick this up again in a day or two, but I hope you do realize by now that THIS IS REALLY SOME NATAL CHART YOU'VE GOT HERE...!
Oh, btw, I read the Sabian Symbol over a few times, that one with the tw Dutch children, and it is a rather bit of an oddity among them all and I think even Dane had a hard time coming up with an explanation for it, but if was given through another and why that channel saw it in that particular imagery may never be fully understood. Like I wrote to you the other day, "You never know... ya know?"
If you find the time, and might be the least bit interested, read the Sabian Symbol for the 30th degree of Aquarius and Dane mentions in the text below what the original imagery was. It out of all the other 359 symbols descriptions is the longest worded of them all. But it is one of those two that I mentioned were of such great importance to me as to keeping with the study and not getting discouraged.
To tired to do much proof reading of this post... the word "concise" just might not be in my dictionary.
Happy New Year.
ptv