How long does mars stay in a house

Zeuses

Well-known member
This cycle Mars will be in Aries for 6 months. YOu can check this yourself in an ephemeris.

After that Mars will go back to spending around 2 months in a sign....until it goes into retrograde again in 2 years (in Gemini.)
LIN
Thankyou for your reply Lin
on a chart for the next year from Astrodienst it shows that mars is only at 0 degrees for a really short period where I will have mars sextile Venus (10th Gemini) with mars sextile Venus natally and mars conjunct mars (8th Aries) no natal aspect in this but a mars square moon aspect. Similarly, it shows Saturn trine Venus (where I have a natal aspect of Venus square Saturn 6th) in and out for longer over a year. On a different site I was told that Saturn won't impact upon me yet mars will which doesn't make any sense as Saturn always seems to impact upon me.
 
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Zeuses

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Some people prefer whole signs, and other prefer placidius. You are free to choose

The planet which stays 1 month per sign is the Sun.
(1 day for 1 degree. 30° = a month)


Mars take 2 years or so to transit all the zodiac wheel.
(so, 2 months or so in each sign)

He is in Aries since a week or less, and will go retrograde after transiting almost all Aries sign one time (starting his retrogradation at something like 27-28°)

So, 2 months to transit Aries once.
+ retrogradation (15° of retrograde transit)
+ direct transit of the last 15° of Aries

He will finally enter Taurus next year (first week of January)

Apologies for not replying to your post before now. I have just re read it and you mentioned the retrograde so that explains it thankyou.
 

JUPITERASC

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Thankyou for your reply Lin
on a chart for the next year from Astrodienst it shows that mars is only at 0 degrees for a really short period where I will have mars sextile Venus (10th Gemini) with mars sextile Venus natally and mars conjunct mars (8th Aries) no natal aspect in this but a mars square moon aspect. Similarly, it shows Saturn trine Venus (where I have a natal aspect of Venus square Saturn 6th) in and out for longer over a year.

On a different site
I was told
that Saturn won't impact upon me
yet mars will
which doesn't make any sense
as Saturn always seems to impact upon me.
Different sites have different opinons
and also
different astrologers have different opinions
mostly they simply argue :smile:
and so
best to focus on learning, reading, studying
and vigilantly practising
until sufficient understanding
assists with
drawing your own conclusions
 

Zeuses

Well-known member
Different sites have different opinons
and also
different astrologers have different opinions
mostly they simply argue :smile:
and so
best to focus on learning, reading, studying
and vigilantly practising
until sufficient understanding
assists with
drawing your own conclusions

Yes i can see that. I guess its down to the kind of astrology that individuals follow, their experience and if there are specific areas of focus for individuals on sites with the exception possibly of the more advanced astrologers although it looks like they have preferences too. Usually I look retrospectively to see what was been happening in my life at Any particular time and sure enough I often find that astrology is accurate in terms of transits much of the time I have done this historically so that looking at future transits doesn't become a self fulfilling prophesy as I think the mind is strong in terms of perceptions. However because I have done that for many many years I am now looking to learn more in depth through my own chart and transits at things I didn't know example in a transit you need to take into account rulers of the house being transited. I didn't know that. I struggle to pull it all together. I have bought a good book too so I'm trying lol
 
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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Yes i can see that. I guess its down to the kind of astrology that individuals follow, their experience and if there are specific areas of focus for individuals on sites with the exception possibly of the more advanced astrologers although it looks like they have preferences too. Usually I look retrospectively to see what was been happening in my life at Any particular time and sure enough I often find that astrology is accurate in terms of transits much of the time I have done this historically so that looking at future transits doesn't become a self fulfilling prophesy as I think the mind is strong in terms of perceptions. However because I have done that for many many years

I am now looking to learn more in depth through my own chart
and transits
at things I didn't know
example
in a transit you need to take into account rulers of the house being transited.
I didn't know that.


I struggle to pull it all together.
I have bought a good book too so I'm trying lol
Two thousand years ago astrology was "..predictive..."
moe so than "...psychological..."
and so
HELLENISTIC ASTROLOGY is more of a predictive system

used to determine events in the life of an individual
– i.e.

WHEN they occur

as well as

HOW BENEFICIAL

and/or

DERIMENTAL

the particular events may or may not be
to the individual native.

The NATAL CONDITION and SIGNIFICATIONS
of each of the seven visible classical planets
aka
Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn
in the natal chart
is determined after thorough and exhaustive analysis.
the assistance of modern software programs
such as that provided by Curtis Manwaring
who wrote software
in consultation with Robert Schmidt (deceased December 2018)
at Project Hindsight
available at http://www.astrology-x-files.com/

Rumen Kolev practitioner of ANCIENT BABYLONIAN astrology
provides some great software options
that reduce the work load http://www.babylonianastrology.com/i...emart&Itemid=1

Numerous timing procedures are utilised
for the forecasting of events as signified by planets.

“...Circumambulations...” is used to demarcate
sections of time in the native's life.
Each period is governed by a different planet
known as a “...time lord..”
and effects during that period
correspond to
the condition and meaning of that “...time lord...” aka planet
in the natal chart.

Zodiacal aphesis, decennials, quarters of the moon, profections,
planetary periods and ascensions
as well as solar returns are then used
to get more detail
on particular years/topics
- their indications are always determined by the “...time lords...”
established by “...circumambulations...”
and cannot contradict those particular "....time lords..."

TRANSITING PLANETS ARE LAST ON THE LIST :smile:
and are considered
solely

within the context of beneficial
or difficult
periods already determined
and/or established by the various time lords

a detailed explanation of Hellenistic style delineation
by astrologer Maria Mateus
originally recorded at The Blast Astrology Conference 2007
is FREE at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7O6xObhK6M



Hellenistic methods as understood two thousand years ago
are not only detailed
but also exhaustively thorough when correctly utilised
- Maria Mateus video is well worth listening to a few times
to get some idea of the method
the approximately hour long video
is full of useful information/insights
that anyone may immediately begin to practice if so inclined

- also there's the ANTHOLOGY written by Vettius Valens
translated from the original Ancient Greek
by Professor Mark riley of CSU
FREE ONLINE at
http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf



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Zeuses

Well-known member
Two thousand years ago astrology was "..predictive..."
moe so than "...psychological..."
and so
HELLENISTIC ASTROLOGY is more of a predictive system

used to determine events in the life of an individual
– i.e.

WHEN they occur

as well as

HOW BENEFICIAL

and/or

DERIMENTAL

the particular events may or may not be
to the individual native.

The NATAL CONDITION and SIGNIFICATIONS
of each of the seven visible classical planets
aka
Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn
in the natal chart
is determined after thorough and exhaustive analysis.
the assistance of modern software programs
such as that provided by Curtis Manwaring
who wrote software
in consultation with Robert Schmidt (deceased December 2018)
at Project Hindsight
available at http://www.astrology-x-files.com/

Rumen Kolev practitioner of ANCIENT BABYLONIAN astrology
provides some great software options
that reduce the work load http://www.babylonianastrology.com/i...emart&Itemid=1

Numerous timing procedures are utilised
for the forecasting of events as signified by planets.

“...Circumambulations...” is used to demarcate
sections of time in the native's life.
Each period is governed by a different planet
known as a “...time lord..”
and effects during that period
correspond to
the condition and meaning of that “...time lord...” aka planet
in the natal chart.

Zodiacal aphesis, decennials, quarters of the moon, profections,
planetary periods and ascensions
as well as solar returns are then used
to get more detail
on particular years/topics
- their indications are always determined by the “...time lords...”
established by “...circumambulations...”
and cannot contradict those particular "....time lords..."

TRANSITING PLANETS ARE LAST ON THE LIST :smile:
and are considered
solely

within the context of beneficial
or difficult
periods already determined
and/or established by the various time lords

a detailed explanation of Hellenistic style delineation
by astrologer Maria Mateus
originally recorded at The Blast Astrology Conference 2007
is FREE at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7O6xObhK6M



Hellenistic methods as understood two thousand years ago
are not only detailed
but also exhaustively thorough when correctly utilised
- Maria Mateus video is well worth listening to a few times
to get some idea of the method
the approximately hour long video
is full of useful information/insights
that anyone may immediately begin to practice if so inclined

- also there's the ANTHOLOGY written by Vettius Valens
translated from the original Ancient Greek
by Professor Mark riley of CSU
FREE ONLINE at
http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf



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Thankyou for your time on this. I have definitely experienced some of the horror transits at horrible times of my life, Pluto for example. It was only much later that I reflected on that time and looked at what transits were going on and sure enough Neptune and Pluto were making transits to the faster moving planets in the natal in challenging ways and after reading Robert Hands Transits book it described pretty much exactly what had been happening. I will read up a little about Hellenistic providing I don't get too confused. Thanks again
 

Zeuses

Well-known member
Thanks all for your input on this post. Just wanted to ask one more question how often does Mars stay in a house for six months eg 8th like this is doing? So when would the last time have been and when else would it occur in the future?

Thankyou
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Thanks all for your input on this post.
Just wanted to ask one more question
how often does Mars stay in a house for six months
eg 8th like this is doing?

So when would the last time have been
and
when else would it occur in the future?

Thankyou
ours is an astrological learning forum
on which one of the skills to learn is
to discover that the question you asked
may be simply answered by using FREE software :smile:
at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/transit-chart-planetary-transits

on that site
FREE PLANETARY TRANSITS software
highlights
transiting planets
and their aspects to the natal planets
of the particular natal chart input chosen for viewing
and

the FREE PLANETARY TRANSITS software
shows the location of any transiting planet
including
the natal house occupied by any transiting planet

if anyone requires assistance with using
the FREE ONLINE PLANETARY TRANSITS software
at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/transit-chart-planetary-transits
then message our member kaktuzz
who designed the software
and provides it online for FREE


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Zeuses

Well-known member
ours is an astrological learning forum
on which one of the skills to learn is
to discover that the question you asked
may be simply answered by using FREE software :smile:
at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/transit-chart-planetary-transits

on that site
FREE PLANETARY TRANSITS software
highlights
transiting planets
and their aspects to the natal planets
of the particular natal chart input chosen for viewing
and

the FREE PLANETARY TRANSITS software
shows the location of any transiting planet
including
the natal house occupied by any transiting planet

if anyone requires assistance with using
the FREE ONLINE PLANETARY TRANSITS software
at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/transit-chart-planetary-transits
then message our member kaktuzz
who designed the software
and provides it online for FREE


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Thankyou for your post and link. I found it, 1988 was the last time apparently I recall that was a good year so here's to mars sextile Venus and conjunct mars for six months.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Thankyou for your post and link. I found it,
1988 was the last time apparently
I recall that was a good year
so

here's to mars sextile Venus and conjunct mars for six months.
keep in mind that
generalisation is fun but unreliable :smile:

BECAUSE

1988 transiting Sun
1988 transiting Mercury
1988 transiting Venus
1988 transiting Jupiter
1988 transiting Saturn
would have occupied different locations
from those occupied during current retrograde
THEREFORE
events of most recent Mars retrograde for six months in a house
WOULD OBVIOUSLY DIFFER

based on

WHICH PARTICULAR HOUSE
as well as

the significations of those planets
and the promise of the natal chart
from events of any past Mars retrograde for six months in a house

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Zeuses

Well-known member
keep in mind that
generalisation is fun but unreliable :smile:

BECAUSE

1988 transiting Sun
1988 transiting Mercury
1988 transiting Venus
1988 transiting Jupiter
1988 transiting Saturn
would have occupied different locations
from those occupied during current retrograde
THEREFORE
events of most recent Mars retrograde for six months in a house
WOULD OBVIOUSLY DIFFER

based on

WHICH PARTICULAR HOUSE
as well as

the significations of those planets
and the promise of the natal chart
from events of any past Mars retrograde for six months in a house

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Thankyou for this. Yes I have just looked. In 88 I had Pluto transit 3rd trine moon in 5th, Jupiter conjunct Venus in 10th Saturn transit 4th trine Jupiter 9th, Uranus transit 4th trine Jupiter 9th and jupiter transit 10 square Saturn 6th.
This is different as you say as this time I have Uranus 9th trine moon 5th, Saturn 5th trine Venus 10th, Uranus in 9th trine Pluto 1st and Saturn 5th square Jupiter. I assume that in both years the most important transits will be one where there are natal aspects which in my case is Pluto moon, Saturn Jupiter, Venus Saturn and uranus moon and the mars sextil Venus and mars square moon as mentioned before.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Thankyou for this. Yes I have just looked. In 88 I had Pluto transit 3rd trine moon in 5th, Jupiter conjunct Venus in 10th Saturn transit 4th trine Jupiter 9th, Uranus transit 4th trine Jupiter 9th and jupiter transit 10 square Saturn 6th.
This is different as you say as this time I have Uranus 9th trine moon 5th, Saturn 5th trine Venus 10th, Uranus in 9th trine Pluto 1st and Saturn 5th square Jupiter. I assume that in both years the most important transits will be one where there are natal aspects which in my case is Pluto moon, Saturn Jupiter, Venus Saturn and uranus moon and the mars sextil Venus and mars square moon as mentioned before.
There are different astrological perspectives
Vedic, Sidereal, Modernist, Traditional, Tropical, Chinese :smile:
for example
Sidereal Western site at https://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?t=3


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JUPITERASC

Well-known member
*

everything is interdependent astrologically
and a podcast featuring late astrologer Alan White
on an introduction to Hellenistic astrology
has much information
unavailable in this form elsewhere
of interest to beginners and more experienced alike

Alan White created an introductory lecture on Hellenistic astrology using a flip chart
that he presented at a number of astrological meetings in the 2000s
and one of these presentations in 2001
led to Demetra George teaching a course on the subject at Kepler College.
Alan died at the age of 69 on August 18, 2011.
a few months before he died he recorded a version of
his intro to Hellenistic astrology lecture
to have it on the historical record :smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3H2M6dMF5w&t=60s


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Zeuses

Well-known member
So in order to confirm whether any of my transits are accurate I am expected to check them through every other form of astrology there is?
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
So in order to confirm whether any of my transits are accurate
I am expected to check them through
every other form of astrology there is?
only if interested to do so :smile:
that is a matter for personal choice

alternative option
is

to obtain a RELIABLE professional delineation

meanwhile
for interested beginners :

Joseph Crane author of "A Practical Guide to Traditional Astrology"
shares with us his journey
through using house systems
then using no houses at all
and ultimately why he switched to Whole Sign Houses
and why you should do the same.

This conversation is timely, necessary
and brings up challenging considerations
but it also contains a rich and futuristic vision
of what Astrology can be
and
where we are going as a community
and
Why You should Switch to Whole Sign Houses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAcw56uvOgA


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Zeuses

Well-known member
Thankyou again. I'm reading an excellent book by Bernadette Brady so really learning much more. My issue is with synthesis but this book is showing that too.
 

Lin

Well-known member
Zeuses,
Could you post your natal chart? This way it would be very easy to see the transits you are talking about and concerned about!
LIN
 

swanswings

Well-known member
Zeuses,

Bless this day

Here is your natal from two perspectives, whole sign houses and Placidus. With Manchester’s latitude of 53°30' N, there are significant differences in house cusps.

https://imgur.com/XExlJOT

Saturn in the 7th (whole signs) is very different from Saturn in the 6th (Placidus).

The date for Imgur chart which you posted shows transits and progressions for 12 April 2020.

https://imgur.com/FgWflib

Today is 4 August, so here you can see the changes which have occurred.

https://imgur.com/LdxQYZ7

With Secondary Progressions everything is at a virtual standstill. I’ve been doing astrology since 1983, and gave up on Secondaries a long time ago, and also adopted whole sign houses 20 years ago.

Transiting Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto are in the same house.

Because Venus went through retrograde, it is/was in 10th House from April 1, 2020 and enters the 11th on August 15 , 2020.

Transiting Mars is about to do something similar. On June 28, 2020, it entered Aries while it was in the 8th House. On August 13, 2020, it enters the 9th House. On September 9, it goes retrograde and remains in Aries until January 6, 2021.

Because the size of the 9th House is 34°39'55" with the Crapcidus house system, Mars remains in the 9th until February 28, 2021.

To return to your original question, the length of time which a planet spends in a house can be quite variable, especially with a house system such as Placidus. The size of your 7th House is 20°08'14", so transiting Mars was there from May 22, 2020 til June 22, 2020.

One month in the 7th House versus 119 days in the 9th (6 months, 15 days).

https://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/astrology-guides/transits-progressions-ninth-house/


Sincere best wishes.
 
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