Phoenix Venus
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Hi folks. I've been recently looking at some of the discoveries of the outer planets and asteroids and found some interesting information that i thought i would share.
First of all, let me discuss my intentions going into this project. It is known that these outer planets had been previously discovered by our ancestors in ancient history. But that information was suppressed/ lost amongst the general populace and thus possibly laying dormant within the collective psyche.
So, my thoughts going into this, were to test whether or not the rediscovery held any meaning regarding the nature of the planet, and whether there were any clues as to the nature of impression that this rediscovery might leave on the members of the collective.
So, lets start with pluto and go inward, shall we? I might get to the asteroids as well if everything goes smoothly. I'm posting this in the degree section as I will mainly be analysing the specific degree placements surrounding these events.
Pluto was discovered on February 18, 1930.
Pluto was found in the 18th degree of cancer. It was retrograde at the time.
So far in my studies I am getting the overwhelming consensus that the position of the planet being discovered represents the nature of the discovery ·· sort of like the planet is saying "yeah, this is me, allowing my presence to be made known."
Here is the sabian symbol for 18 cancer, the placement of pluto during its discovery. All symbols are taken from Dane Rudhyar's "An Astrological Mandala" ... due to quote limitations i cannot ppst these symbols in full so please go here to read more: http://www.mindfire.ca/An Astrological Mandala/An Astrological Mandala - Contents.htm
"A HEN SCRATCHING THE GROUND TO FIND NOURISHMENT FOR HER PROGENY.
KEYNOTE: The practical concern with everyday nourishment necessary to sustain one's outreaching activities.
Every mother is originally responsible for the feeding of her progeny and all the activities into which a person has poured his energy are his symbolic children. He has to feed them with social substance gathered from "the ground" of his community, and to watch with concern over their unfoldment.
Seed, germ and the growing plant requiring the chemicals of the soil for its daily growth form a clear sequence.... FULFILLING OF LIFE'S RESPONSIBILITIES."
So... as you can tell this symbol has a few maybe subtle references to pluto but is more about the process of discovery of pluto... fulfilling responsibilities... practical sustainment of outreaching activities... the growth of what one pours their energy into.... you could say here that Pluto is the mother allowing her hungry children to come to her for nourishment...
So then.... if the position of pluto doesn't outright describe the nature of pluto.... then what does?? Forum member piercethevale, bless his heart, made an offhand comment to me that gave me a bit of an "ahhaa omg eureka!!!" Moment... he mentioned that it took the sun being in a certain degree to shed light on that degrees precept...
Ahhaa! The position of the sun should represent the nature of the planet as us humans come to understand and process it. (After all, it is the process of allowing the planets reflective *Light* into our field of vision that we constitute as "discovery"....)
And what I'm finding so far is golden yall.
When Pluto was discovered, the Sun was in the 29th degree of aqua. Check it out:
"A BUTTERFLY EMERGING FROM A CHRYSALIS.
The capacity to utterly transform the character of one's consciousness by radically altering the structural patterns of everyday living and the types of relationships one enters upon.
Here what is emphasized is the process of metamorphosis.. nothing short of a complete renewal of all the implications of being alive... A radical change is needed... the potential to participate in a higher realm of evolution AFTER emergence from a critical state of transition.
... METAMORPHOSIS. In spiritual terms, this implies "Initiation," entering a higher realm of conscious existence ...."
......!!!!! WOW
"Nothing short of a complete renewal of all the implications of existence..."
Utterly transforming... metamorphosis... radically altering structural patterns...initiation... emergence from a critical state of transition..... if this does not describe the nature of pluto, i don't know WHAT does!
Lastly, lets take a look at the position of the north node. I'm thinking it might describe the ultimate goal of the planets influence on society.
the north node was in 6 taurus at the time of plutos discovery.
"CANTILEVER BRIDGE ACROSS A DEEP GORGE.
KEYNOTE: The conquest of separativeness through group-cooperation.
The person who has suffered deprivation and loneliness can give new substance to emotional life by participating in a collective project.. A link must be built through the power of the collective mind of the group or of the community at large, on the basis of the legacy of the past, to make a bridge over the canyon.
...The man-made bridge built with collective skill gives substance to and demonstrates man's capacity to CONQUER OBSTACLES and to achieve evolutionary continuity as well as expansion in space."
"The conquest of seperativeness through group participation..." .... eeexactly!
First of all, let me discuss my intentions going into this project. It is known that these outer planets had been previously discovered by our ancestors in ancient history. But that information was suppressed/ lost amongst the general populace and thus possibly laying dormant within the collective psyche.
So, my thoughts going into this, were to test whether or not the rediscovery held any meaning regarding the nature of the planet, and whether there were any clues as to the nature of impression that this rediscovery might leave on the members of the collective.
So, lets start with pluto and go inward, shall we? I might get to the asteroids as well if everything goes smoothly. I'm posting this in the degree section as I will mainly be analysing the specific degree placements surrounding these events.
Pluto was discovered on February 18, 1930.
Pluto was found in the 18th degree of cancer. It was retrograde at the time.
So far in my studies I am getting the overwhelming consensus that the position of the planet being discovered represents the nature of the discovery ·· sort of like the planet is saying "yeah, this is me, allowing my presence to be made known."
Here is the sabian symbol for 18 cancer, the placement of pluto during its discovery. All symbols are taken from Dane Rudhyar's "An Astrological Mandala" ... due to quote limitations i cannot ppst these symbols in full so please go here to read more: http://www.mindfire.ca/An Astrological Mandala/An Astrological Mandala - Contents.htm
"A HEN SCRATCHING THE GROUND TO FIND NOURISHMENT FOR HER PROGENY.
KEYNOTE: The practical concern with everyday nourishment necessary to sustain one's outreaching activities.
Every mother is originally responsible for the feeding of her progeny and all the activities into which a person has poured his energy are his symbolic children. He has to feed them with social substance gathered from "the ground" of his community, and to watch with concern over their unfoldment.
Seed, germ and the growing plant requiring the chemicals of the soil for its daily growth form a clear sequence.... FULFILLING OF LIFE'S RESPONSIBILITIES."
So... as you can tell this symbol has a few maybe subtle references to pluto but is more about the process of discovery of pluto... fulfilling responsibilities... practical sustainment of outreaching activities... the growth of what one pours their energy into.... you could say here that Pluto is the mother allowing her hungry children to come to her for nourishment...
So then.... if the position of pluto doesn't outright describe the nature of pluto.... then what does?? Forum member piercethevale, bless his heart, made an offhand comment to me that gave me a bit of an "ahhaa omg eureka!!!" Moment... he mentioned that it took the sun being in a certain degree to shed light on that degrees precept...
Ahhaa! The position of the sun should represent the nature of the planet as us humans come to understand and process it. (After all, it is the process of allowing the planets reflective *Light* into our field of vision that we constitute as "discovery"....)
And what I'm finding so far is golden yall.
When Pluto was discovered, the Sun was in the 29th degree of aqua. Check it out:
"A BUTTERFLY EMERGING FROM A CHRYSALIS.
The capacity to utterly transform the character of one's consciousness by radically altering the structural patterns of everyday living and the types of relationships one enters upon.
Here what is emphasized is the process of metamorphosis.. nothing short of a complete renewal of all the implications of being alive... A radical change is needed... the potential to participate in a higher realm of evolution AFTER emergence from a critical state of transition.
... METAMORPHOSIS. In spiritual terms, this implies "Initiation," entering a higher realm of conscious existence ...."
......!!!!! WOW
"Nothing short of a complete renewal of all the implications of existence..."
Utterly transforming... metamorphosis... radically altering structural patterns...initiation... emergence from a critical state of transition..... if this does not describe the nature of pluto, i don't know WHAT does!
Lastly, lets take a look at the position of the north node. I'm thinking it might describe the ultimate goal of the planets influence on society.
the north node was in 6 taurus at the time of plutos discovery.
"CANTILEVER BRIDGE ACROSS A DEEP GORGE.
KEYNOTE: The conquest of separativeness through group-cooperation.
The person who has suffered deprivation and loneliness can give new substance to emotional life by participating in a collective project.. A link must be built through the power of the collective mind of the group or of the community at large, on the basis of the legacy of the past, to make a bridge over the canyon.
...The man-made bridge built with collective skill gives substance to and demonstrates man's capacity to CONQUER OBSTACLES and to achieve evolutionary continuity as well as expansion in space."
"The conquest of seperativeness through group participation..." .... eeexactly!
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