Do you have this, moog? I do, it is in Libra in my 2nd house, 2 degree orb.
This is powerful, will create important crisis and transformation. I think native will end up almost the opposite to what they were as a young adult in later life.
I just noticed that Morinus calculates my Pluto as being parallel with the NN.
I went through a very powerful crisis actually a few years back. Or, perhaps my early life has actually been one long drawn out crisis A lot of stuff progressed over my natal Pluto during the course of my life.
i have this aspect too, in 2nd. Virgo. it's hard for me to say too much because of an opposition to my chiron/sn conjunction Pisces in 8th.
Jan Spiller talks about it in terms of coming to grips with personal power. it's a huge reserve of energy that can fuel our efforts. i think i'm supposed to learn to master money and property and direct myself to aquire as well as to clearly know what i value. but i'm not too big on the stuff thing. I do however, constantly seek to discover aspects of myself which help me better understand myself, to "know who i am," so to speak. That's more 2/8 axis, I suppose.
like the oceanliner's coal supply ~ pluto keeps the energy steady and reserved for a long sail. Doesn't strike me that pluto north node folks would spend a lot of daily mental time, like mercury might if in a conjunction, on how to reach their purpose or destiny. Likely with Pluto, it's a bit under wraps ~ bubbling up little paths for us to follow that direct us to our point.
sure ~ big or little ~ anything that brings out a hidden part of us. We ain't skeered. But it can feel like landmines at times, huh?Yeah, or just not even bubbling up, but actual crisis that forces you to grow and change...
sure ~ big or little ~ anything that brings out a hidden part of us. We ain't skeered. But it can feel like landmines at times, huh?
this just got me thinking about winston churchill. "if it feels like you,re walking through hell, just keep walking."
i alwYs think of that statement as jupiter/saturn, but it is fitting in this context. because we know the landmines are there. we may have not, but pluto has, done an inventory on our fears and weaknesses. he needs to know what he's up against when it comes to our needed changes. so he's in cahoots with node and also staving off the know-it-all south node, so he brings out the raze and rebuild strategy.
anyway, i think they work in harmony. probly you have to have some strong plutonic leanings to look at it like that.
But not the North Node, Moog - as it progresses backwards through the zodiac signs - [However, the transitting NN was conjunct your natal Pluto in February 1996.]A lot of stuff progressed over my natal Pluto during the course of my life.
WHAT FOLLOWS IS MY PERSONAL VIEW ONLYWhat might "Pluto conjunct North Node" symbolise?
But not the North Node, Moog - as it progresses backwards through the zodiac signs - [However, the transitting NN was conjunct your natal Pluto in February 1996.]
Fascinating, that does describe part of my function very well Cheers BenWHAT FOLLOWS IS MY PERSONAL VIEW ONLY
Conjunctions are either the beginning or the ending of an evolutionary cycle - So, the symbolism differs for separating and applying conjunctions - and the period of each cycle will vary because Pluto does not move through the zodiac signs at a constant speed.
The symbolic meaning of each cycle relates to the sign in which the exact commencing conjunction takes place - and can sometimes be clarified by the Sabian Symbol of that zodiac degree.
Relating this to your chart, Moog - (I think) the last Pluto/NN conjunction before you were born was at Libra 16, for which the Sabian Symbol is a boat landing washed away - and Marc Edmund Jones states "here is not so much a thwarting of human effort as a stimulation to new accomplishment, and a freedom from whatever has exceeded it's usefulness." - So, this describes the evolutionary purpose of all those born during that Pluto/NN cycle.
And your symbolic role as an individual within that cycle is probably described by the Sabian Symbols for your natal Pluto (Libra 19) and natal NN (Virgo 9) - [But I'd guess it's about "challenging established views that may have exceeded their usefulness".
sure ~ big or little ~ anything that brings out a hidden part of us. We ain't skeered. But it can feel like landmines at times, huh?
this just got me thinking about winston churchill. "if it feels like you,re walking through hell, just keep walking."
My Pluto is in the 12th house by whole signs.
During the last 5 or so years I got heavily into spirituality, particularly Buddhism and Christian mysticism. I began to see my existential crisis as what John of the Cross called 'the dark night of the soul'
I don't know if it was exactly like that, but I definitely came to see it as a spiritual transformation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Night_of_the_Soul
Before that I was in therapy... long period of anhedonia, a long period spent suicidal. Medication didn't feel right to me. I think some part of me knew that. Feels like it happened to a different person, now.
If I was astrologically aware at the time, I would have documented things with dates and notes, that would have been cool.
I definitely suffered a lot, but now I'm changed and ready to help other people navigate their crises. Or at least, that's the plan...