Tesla,Velikovsky and the Fraud of Science

rahu

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That doesn't sound right because humans apparently share 50% of DNA with bananas.
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Article from the same website:

https://www.livescience.com/1122-neanderthal-99-5-percent-human.html

The confusion lies in the definition of "share".

https://www.quora.com/How-can-we-sh...nstances-but-could-someone-please-explain-how

Just want to add, the existence of genes or evolution process doesn't contradict the non-material nature of reality. These are simply regularities within the reality, just like "laws of physics". Take for example dreams. In most dreams, with the exception of so called "flying dreams", you are experiencing gravity and other laws of physics even though dream is clearly a mental reality. Similarly, you could observe DNA or quantum phenomena within a dream and those patterns and regularities are obviously coming from the mind, they are not properties of the "dream matter".

interesting contradictions among the geneticists
https://www.livescience.com/42933-humans-carry-20-percent-neanderthal-genes.html
At least 20% of Neanderthal DNA Is in Humans

https://www.livescience.com/1122-neanderthal-99-5-percent-human.html
Neanderthal: 99.5 Percent Human

the 99.5% seem logical based on the identical morphology of human and Neanderthal toddlers.

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http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2018...er-that-fills-27-of-the-universe-2512044.html

Dark Matter Fills 27% of the Universe, Still Mystifies Scientists, Only Reacts to Gravity
( more scientific contradictions,most estimates are up to 90% of the universe is dark matter and dark energy rahu)

There is believed to be about five times more dark matter than all the other particles understood by science, but nobody knows what it is.

(dark matter is a hypothetical concept that the cosmologist thought up to explain why the laws of gravity and relativity are not followed in the universe. instead of saying geezzz the standard model is wrong, the cosmologist came up with this idea that there is dark matter and energy that is counteracting the affects of gravity.dark matter was first proposed by fritz zwicky rahu)
https://www.decodedscience.org/the-remarkable-discoveries-fritz-zwicky/15456
In 1933, Zwicky proposed galaxies harbor huge quantities of unseen matter. Based on the motion of outlying galaxies in the Coma galaxy cluster, Zwicky concluded there was not enough visible matter to hold these fast-moving galaxies together. He insisted something invisible was producing additional gravity out there in the heavens. Zwicky dubbed this still unknown substance dark matter.

(the blindness of science is shown by their embrace of dark matter. when the first spiral galaxies were seen in the universe, and scientist should have realized immediately that something was wrong, because the spiral arms of a spiral galaxy cannot exist if the laws of gravity hold true. the spiral arms would be torn apart because of the extreme difference in velocity of the inner part of the spiral arm and the furthest part of the spiral arms.

what scientist are determined to ignore is what Dr Immanuel Velikovsky proposed... the universes is held together by electro magnetic forces... not gravity.

mathematically the equation for gravity are exactly the same as the mathematical equations for an electromagnetic field.in fact a astronomer cannot distinguish a red shift caused by gravity and a red shift cause by a electromagnetic field. and though astronomers have seen magnetic field that are 500 million light years long, they still ignore the electrical field of the universe as being a functional dynamic rahu)

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Astronomers are back in the dark about what dark matter might be, after new observations showed the mysterious substance may not be interacting with forces other than gravity after all.
Dr Andrew Robertson of Durham University today (Friday 6 April) presented the new results at the European Week of Astronomy and Space Science in Liverpool.
Three years ago, a Durham-led international team of researchers thought they had made a breakthrough in ultimately identifying what dark matter is.
Observations using the Hubble Space Telescope appeared to show that a galaxy in the Abell 3827 cluster – approximately 1.3 billion light years from Earth – had become separated from the dark matter surrounding it.
Such an offset is predicted during collisions if dark matter interacts with forces other than gravity, potentially providing clues about what the substance might be.​
Hubble Space Telescope image of the four giant galaxies at the heart of cluster Abell 3827. An almost 3-hour exposure shows the view at wavelengths visible to the human eye, and the near infrared, as used in the original 2015 study. The distorted image of a more distant galaxy behind the cluster is faintly visible, wrapped around the four galaxies

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The chance orientation at which the Abell 3827 cluster is seen from Earth makes it possible to conduct highly sensitive measurements of its dark matter.
However, the same group of astronomers now say that new data from more recent observations shows that dark matter in the Abell 3827 cluster has not separated from its galaxy after all. The measurement is consistent with dark matter feeling only the force of gravity.

A supercomputer simulation of a collision between two galaxy clusters, similar to the real object known as the ‘Bullet Cluster’, and showing the same effects tested for in Abell 3827. All galaxy clusters contain stars (orange), hydrogen gas (shown as red) and invisible dark matter (shown as blue). Individual stars, and individual galaxies are so far apart from each other that they whizz straight past each other. The diffuse gas slows down and becomes separated from the galaxies, due to the forces between ordinary particles that act as friction. If dark matter feels only the force of gravity, it should stay in the same place as the stars, but if it feels other forces, its trajectory through this giant particle collider would be changed
http://beforeitsnews.com/r2/?url=ht...es/stories/EWASS2018/Massey/HST_visibleIR.jpg


Lead author Dr Richard Massey, in the Centre for Extragalactic Astronomy, at Durham University, said: “The search for dark matter is frustrating, but that’s science. When data improves, the conclusions can change.

“Meanwhile the hunt goes on for dark matter to reveal its nature.
“So long as dark matter doesn’t interact with the Universe around it, we are having a hard time working out what it is.”
A simulation of the same collision if dark matter consisted of extremely strongly ‘self-interacting’ particles that feel large forces in addition to gravity. The resulting distribution of dark matter and gas disagrees with what is observed in the real Universe – indeed, the interaction is so strong in this case that the dark matter stopped close to the point of impact. Since this is not seen in the real Universe, this enables us to rule out this particular model of dark matter.
 

rahu

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this is just a post musings

last night on cble thee was a program about tesla. they tried to recreate tesla's death ray and they tried to shw that tesla was assassinated because of this death ray.
simple enough but what I am wondering is why this program was made . why now? it ma simply be a tesal rip off for cable viewera byt it was unsettlingly because there were so many misrepresentations and mistakes that it seems something more is being attempted . hwy fud a program tha is on it's face misleading and rife with.... lies.

first tesla was 85 when he died. he mentioned the death ray at elast 20 years before his death so who why murder him now.
the program made ,multiple stupid errors considering one of people said he was a tesla expert.

I haven't figured what the coverup is that there program is trying foist but might have to do with the FBI
I did learn that in 2016 the FBI released didacted documents showing they were watching tesla... and some what I consider lies.
the main one was that the FBI said unknown persons broken into tesla safe after he dies and stole his papers o the death ray.
but al the books I have read said it was the FBI who swooped down after his deathand took tesla papers.
the the FBI documents said it was tesla's cousin that broke into the safe and took the papers back to Serbia where he established a museum for tesla. but this is blatantly false because a museum to tesla had been set up in Serbia many years before. and the museum was closed when tesla died and remains closed to this day.
so many blatant historical inconsistencies.
for instance they claimed telesla set up the electric turbine at niagara falls(true but for john Westinghouse) for the purpose of using the energy to power the death ray tower that J.P.Morgan commissioned on long island. this is so backward. the tower did not need external power as it drew power form the earth rotational energy fields.actually this was accomplished by others. the most obscure was lester hendershott. a document lester's generator on my lester headshot thread https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42141 . Charles Lindbergh's "capitalist" stole/bought lester's patent rights and then tried to kill him.

and why bring this ridiculous murder scenario....
like I said the only thing that makes sense is that the FBI is trying to coverup their involvement with stealing tesla's paper. but still why now....WTF is going on
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rahu

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on page 93 of his book Ramese and His Times, dr Velikovsky wrote:

"by the same black magic that has distorted the past of mankind by 5 to 8 centuries ,this first hand material was ascribed to the wrong millennium and to the wrong people."
here is talking about the misidentified Hittite empire, but the importance is that this is the only time I had ever read dr velikovsky use the term black magic. dr velikovsky never veered off from scientific explainable cause and effect but here he was using concepts that I have used to describe the dominance and rulership of our civilization by "black magicians ".

but what purpose would the fraud of science serve, especially the fallacious counting of ancient times?
To answer this, we must start a point of irrefutable censorship or misrepresentation.
Dr Immanuel velikovsky saw that the time line of the middle east is off by 6oo-800 years. He presents the evidence both archeologically and scholarly of this archeoloogical mistake by analyzing the El Amarna cuneiform tablets of the library at Akhet-aton, the city of the 18th dynastyking,Akhnaton .
These tablets contain correspondences with the king of samaria, king of Jerusalem, 2 king of Damascus.king of cyprus and several more rulers and reference to the king of Moab. These correspondences correlate with scripture in 11kings and 11chronicle.
In addition there are other inscriptions from shalmaneser111 and form the stella of king mesha that give independent historical perspectives of the 9th century bc, the time of ankhnaten, king ahab of Israel , king Jehoshaphat of judah ,shalamanser III king of the assyrians .

The point of reference in time to begin searching the reason for the misrepresentation of the historical records begins with two scriptural references to the battle at ramoth-gilead between the alliance of king ahab and king jehoshasphat against the king of damascus who the scriptures call ben-hadad.

1 Kings 22:29-36 34………………………………. But someone drew his bow at random and hit the king of Israel between the sections of his armor. The king told his chariot driver, “Wheel around and get me out of the fighting. I’ve been wounded.” 35 All day long the battle raged, and the king was propped up in his chariot facing the Arameans. The blood from his wound ran onto the floor of the chariot, and that evening he died. 36 As the sun was setting, a cry spread through the army: “Every man to his town. Every man to his land!”

The discrepancy is that ahab is wounded In battle and leaves the field of combat But the next line tells of ahab staying in the field of combat and dying.
. But other sources tell of Ahab recovering and going on to live for 1-2 years after Jehoshaphat dies. This scriptural difference about ahabs death results in the next discrepancies in the scriptures.

II kings 1:17 and jehoram reigned in his(Ahaziah’s-ahabs son))stead in the second year of jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat king of Judah.
Ii Kings 3:1 now jehoram the son of ahab began to reign over Israel in samaria in the eighteenth year of Jehoshaphat of Judah.
Jehoshaphat ruled for 25 years as stated in II chronicles 20:31.

The first version, 1:17,has jehoram reigning in samaria after the son of ahab(ahaziah) ruled for a short time after the death of ahab a few years after the death of Jehoshaphat. This places jehoram’s reign approximately 9 years after the battle at ramoth gilead.
The second version,3:1, has jehoram reign from the supposed death of ahab at the battle of ramoth gilead in the 18th years of Jehoshaphat . so here jehoram started his reign 7 years before the time given in the the first version. Dr velikovsky states that the first briefer versions is the older of the two versions.

Dr velikovsky further points out that because there is confusion about who reigned after the battle of Ramoth Gilead , after the battle ,in the scriptures, the king of Samaria is never named. Throughout the further scriptures it is stated the king of Judah was Jehoshaphat but the king of israel is never called by name. this is probably because the scribes were confused by the two versions of scripture and therefore did not know who was the king of Samaria .
The 9 year discrepancy becomes a land mark because most of the letters from the El Amarna tablets pertain to these years.

Another problem is that jehoram was Jehoshaphat’s son not ahabs son as written in 11chronicles 21:6.

Two other ancient archeological inscriptions also show that the version of Abab dying is false.
The inscriptions on black obelisk of shalmanser III records that in his 6th year he battled a coalition of Syrian and Palestinian princes at karkar.ahab had 10,000 soldiers and 2,000 chariots. In the 18th year of his reign shalmanser received tribute from jehu of the house of omni(ahabs father). This 12 years period shows that there is not enough time for ahaziah reigning 2 years and jehoram ruling 12 years and jehu ruling some unspecified time. This totals up to more than the 12 years recorded by shalmanser III between ahab and jehu.

In addition the king of moab,mesha, rebelled against Jehoshaphat and he had a stella made ,recording his conquest of samaria and Judah. Mesha’s stella says that he revolted in the middle of the reign of omni’s son,(ahab). But the false version of II kings states that mesha rebelled after ahab died in battle. clearly this is false.

Finally king ahab wrote a letter to ahknaton from the city of sidon.his wife jezebel was the daughter of the king of sidon and in his old age he left his city of gubla capital of Israel when the forces of the king of Syria were closing in on him. So there is evidence in the form of a cuneiform tablet, ahab did not die at ramoth gilead and lived to a old age though in exile.

The el amarna tablets are written in Assyro-babylonian(akkadian), so there is no confusion about what is written. In the letters from sumer-sumura-samaria ,the king’s name is Rib-Addi. kings had 5 -9 different names and some the names given in the scriptures are not even correct because many of the Hebrew kings names were given 5-6 hundred years later when the scriptures were written down. Rib-Addi means “the elder brother of the father. Ahab in Hebrew means Ah-brother Ab -father .
It is not certain that Jehoshaphat’s was the original name of the king of Jerusalem as it was probably given centuries later to commemorate Jehoshaphat’s devotion to Yahweh as it means” yahwe is the judge”.it was Jehoshaphat that sent the laws of yahwe to the princes of the city states and he also established a court for the laws of yahwe. His name in the el Amarna letters was Abdi-Hiba king of Jerusalem but as the cuneiform texts can be translate alphabetically or pictographically, there are several ways to translate the name. one method of Jehoshaphat’s name in Hebrew is ebed-tov which means good servant.other variation of abdi-hiba are puti-hiba, aradhepa or arthahepa
Akhnaton’s throne name in the letters was naphuria and hisfather, amenhotep was called nimmuria. But in none of the correspondences was the names akhnaton or amenhotep used
The tablets reveal correspondence with the king of sumura( samaria) and the king of urusalim(Jerusalem), there is no mistake. But if ankhnaton lived in the 15th century bc… then there was no city of Jerusalem, there was noof country of or samaria/israel or Judah.
In addition Hebrew loan words were used in the letters, the Hebrew used was a Syrian dialect. yet in 1500 bc the Hebrew language did not exist not did the historical Hebrews for that matter.
The el Amarna letters parallel much of the history recorded in II chronicle and II kings
In the 9th bc the kings of Palestine and Syria were vassals of the king of Egypt. the king of Egypt had governors in palaces of the kings. the exception was Jerusalem as the king there had no governor in his citythough he was too a vassal, the king had more autonomy that the other kings of the regions.
The scriptures downplay if not out right ignores the political reality of those times.
For example in II chronicles 17:14-19 Jehoshaphat’s captains are enumerated as Adnan, jehohanan ,amasiah son of zichri, eliada and jehozabad.
But these captains were beholding to the king of Egypt and 3 of them wrote directly to the pharaoh in the discussion of military matters.
Their names in the el Amarna letters were addudani for adna. A Assyrian inscriptions names ada danu as a prince of gaza(palestine).the son of zichri is called the son of zuchru in the el armarna letters. jehozabad is called iahzibada vin these letters . these were chiefs of the army but they corresponded directly with the king of Egypt ,though their expressions of obeisance to the king of Egypt show they were in a subordinate position compared to the king of Jerusalem.
Another example is from II chronicles 18:25: then the king of Israel said ,take thou micah (the prophet) and carry him back to Amon the governor of the city and to joash the king’s son.”
Here the name amon marks the man as Egyptian and it is stated he was the governor . but it is not made clear that amon was a governor appointed by the king of Egypt. In fact in this time the king of Egypt was responsible for naming the new kings after a death of a king. This is mentioned in chronicles. amon as a functionary of the king of Egypt wrote letters to the king. In these letters his name was aman-appa. Amon was for attacking the king of Damascus but the prophet micah preached to jehoshaphat against war with Damascus. This is why in the above quote(II Chronicles17:14-19 ) that micah was given to amon to carry him away to the city. Amon’s (aman-appa) seniority over the king is shown because he is named before the king’s son joash. This is another example of the fact that the kings of Palestine were vassal.the king of sumara/samaria and Jerusalem also had lessor vassal princes that brought them tribute.
Mesha king of moab was a vassal to jehoshaphat .II kings 3:4and mesha king of moab was a sheepmaster and rendered to the king of Israel a hundred thousand lambs and a hundred thousand rams with wool.
The correlations with book of chronicle and kings with the Amarna letters goes on and on.
Both speak of two invasions by the king of Damascus/Syria(ben hadad)
I Kings 20:1 and ben hadad the king of Syria gathered all his host together: and there were thirty and two kings with him.and horses and chariots
EL Amarna Letter 90 : all the major chieftains are one with Abdi-Asshirta(the scriptures call the king of syria/Damascus:ben hadad.josephus flavius quoting a older source wrote that ben hadad was the generic name for the king of Damascus. in the el Amarna letters ,it is recorded that there were two kings of Damascus mentioned adbi-ashirta/abduastarti and his son azura/hazael. But dr velikovsky pointed out that for unknown reasons the scribes of the scriptures called both kings of Damascus ben hadad. Later scriptural researchers’ labeled them ben hadad I and ben Hadad II.) .many EL Amarna letters said” hostility against sumur has become very great
I Kings 20:19 so these young men of the governors of the provinces came out of the city and the army followed them.12 and the king of Israel went out and smote the horses and chariots and slew the Syrians with a great slaughter.
Here again, the young men of the governors were the elite guards of the Egyptian governors . there were usually less than 100 men but they had the backing of the Egyptian army. when the “young men of the governors” appeared on the field of battle, the opposing forces usually ran away because they knew the forces of the pharaoh were behind them.
Letter 120” who can stand against the soldier’s of the king”(Egyptian king)
Letter 138: formerly abdi-ashirta conquered sumurri,I protected the city by my own hand. I had no garrison.but I wrote the king(ankhnaton).my , lord,and soldiers came and thy took sumuri
the king of Damascus had taken sumuri/samaria and it was with the Egyptian royal troops that the king of Damascus was driven back out of sumuri. The scriptures are written in such a way that it seems that the king of Israel /ahab, drove the Syrians back by himself but that was not the case as the el Amarna letters reveal.
A year after the previous battle the Syrians attacked again.they Syrians were defeated again
This time the king of Damascus was captured but king ahab instead of killing him, established a covenant and let the king of Damascus go free.
I Kings 20:31-34……….”the kings of the house are merciful kings..go out to the kiing of Israel……..came to the king of israel and said,thy servant ben hadad saith, I pray thee,let me live. And he said,is he yet alive? he is my brother. Now the men did diligently observe… and did hastily catch it: and they said Thy brother ben hadad.then he said go ye, bring him.then ben hadad came forth to him and he caused him to come up into the chariot. And ben hadad said unto him, the cities which my father took from thy father,I will restore: and thou shall make the streets for thee in Damascus as my father made in Samaria. And then said Ahab, I will send thee away with this covenant.so he made a covenant with him and sent him away
This incident is also recorded in the el armarna letters
:letter 117 abdi-ashirta(king of Damascus, ben hadad),with all his belongings to him,was not then taken,as I have said(Ahab)
But a prophet stopped the king and said I Kings 20-42 :….thy life shall go for his(ben hadad) life and thy people for his people .
The covenant lasted only three years II Kings 22-1:and they continued for three years without way between Syria and Israel . then hostilities began again
Further parallels occur in the Syrian wars.
Letter 81 of ahab to the king of egypt: let the king, my lord,know that powerful is the hostility of abdi-ashirta,and that he has taken all my cities to himself
Letter 85 : if one regent would make a common cause with me, then I would drive adbi-shirta out of amurri(Syria)
I Kings 22:4 and he said to jehospahat ,wilt thou go with me to battle to ramoth-gilead?
Jehosaphat and ahab had hostilities between each other previously. but now jehosaphat(a regent of the king of Egypt) agreed to unite with ahab and fight adbi-ashirta at ramoth-gilead.
Again the hand of the king of Egypt is very important here, but from reading the scriptures ,this would not become immediately apparent .
A famine later struck samaria and this event is recorded both in the scriptures and the el armarna letters .II Kings 8:1 the lord hath called for a famine and it shall also come upon the land seven years.
El armarna letter 79:give me something to feed them. I have nothing
Letter 83……give grain for my provision
Letter 85 :there is no grain for our support.what shall I say to my peasants? their sons and daughters have come to a end…send grain in ships and preserve the life of his servant and his city.

One of the most clear parallels between the scripture and the el Amarna letters concerns the rebellion of the king of moab,mesha. His name is repeated in many of the el armarna letters from ahab and mesha’s rebellion is describe in the scriptures.
II Kings 1:1, 3:5 After the defeat at ramoth gilead,moab rebelled against the king of israel
Letter 68: let the king ,my lord, know….the hostility of the sa.gaz.Mesh troops is very great against me.so let not the king, my lord, hold back from sumur that it be not annexed to the sa.gaz.mesh troops.
letter 69: behold, now they rise up day and night in rebellions against me
Here dr velikovsky had pointed out that the scholars who translated the el Amarna letters placed these letters in the 15th century bc and therefore did not translate sa.gaz. mesh or amelut-gaz-mesh accurately. Sa.gaz-mesh was translates as the sa.gaz people. Mesh is used as a noun not a adjective. And the term gaz-mesha means a man. yet the scholars dropped mesh completely and translated this as the gaz man. When if fact the correct translations is the man called mesh. That is the king of Moab, mesha .

In letter 91 the king of sumer faced defeat at the hands of the rebel mesha:why dost thou sit and hold back,so that he takes thy cities amel-saz-mesh(the rebel mesh),the dog?when he had taken sumura………….so mayest thou give a thousand minas of silver and one hundred minas of gold. Then will he depart from me. And he has taken all my cities

The ransome of gold and siver is alluded to in the scriptures also
I Kings 20: thou shalt deliver me thy siver and thy gold…..
When the king of Jerusalem was under attack: II Chronicles 20:1-3 it came to pass….that the children of moab, and the children of ammon,and with them besides the ammonites came against jehosaphat to battle.then there came some that told jehosphat,saying there cometh a great multitude against thee from beyond the sea,from Syria..and jehosaphat feared
II Chronicles20:6 o lord god of our fathers art not thou god in heaven? And rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? And in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee.
II Chronicles 20:8-9 :and thy people dwelt therein, and I have built thee a sanctuary therein for your name saying,if, when evil cometh upon us and we cry unto thee in our affliction ,then thou wilt hear and help

The el Amarna letter were written to the king of Egypt. The king of Egypt was regarded as a living diety and the letters to the pharaoh have a similar tone as those to the god of Israel.
Letter 288: let the king care for his land. The land of the king will be lost.all if it will be taken from me:there is hostility to me as far as the lands of seeri and even gintikirmil(this is the same region as mount seir-seeri and in both sources this is the area the invaders came from). there is peace for all the regents ,but to me there is hostility.
Letter 287: verily the king has set his name upon the land of urusalim for ever.therefore he cannot abandon the lands of urusalim (Jerusalem )
The appeal to the lord of heaven and the plea to the lord of earth are of the same nature

The el armarna letters and II kings-II chronicles both talk of the plague that struck samaria ,both talk of the famine and drought that struck samaria, both talk about the rebellion of mesha and many more topics are covered in both sources,

So why have the black magicians altered the time line of history by 600-800 years?
The reason was to separate the pharaoh ankhnaton from the times of king ahab and king Jehoshaphat.
This time period is the beginning of the levite belief in one god. at this time all the ancient world was polytheistic .
Yahweh had a consort, asherah in the ninth century and throughout the early history the tribes of israel worshiped the indigenous mother goddess.but the levites wanted to establish their rule over Judah and Israel by raising Yahweh, a cult god, to the creator god and thereby supplant the indigenous mother goddess religion
Excavations in 1976 found pottery shard at Kuntillet `Ajrud with allusions to Yahweh and asherah.
http://wbs.edu/2016/09/pondering-spa...-ajrud-pithoi/
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/...ptian-god-bes/
http://www.lebtahor.com/Archaeology/...scriptions.htm
Asherah is a name for the mother goddess and it is the name for the enclosure that held the sacred serpent. The sacred serpent had always been a feminine symbol until the Yahwistic editors of the torah turned the serpent into a masculine symbol . Asherah is also associated with sacred trees and groves.
How could Yahweh be a creator god when he was a consort to asherah, a mother goddess symbol.
To make Yahweh the sole creator god, the connections between king akhnaton the first monotheist In history, had to be separated from Jehoshaphat and ahab. There could be no connection between the monotheism of ankhnaton and the reign of Jehoshaphat ,who instituted the laws of Yahweh to the cities of Israel.

1 Kings 22:29-36 34 35………………………………. All day long the battle raged, and the king was propped up in his chariot facing the Arameans. The blood from his wound ran onto the floor of the chariot, and that evening he died. The second (accepted story of ahab) dying in battle fulfils a prophecy by Elisha that “.. dogs ‘shall lick thy blood….dogs shall eat Jezebel by the walls of jezreel.”this is a clear attempt to discredit the mother goddess religion, Belial / Beliar /Belias. The second version is a obvious attempt to rewrite history and show elisha’s prophecy to be true and to erase the influence of the mother goddess under jezebel.
As the death of ahab is fabricated, It is likely that the story of jezebel is also fabricated.king ahab reigned for about 9 more years after the event describe a ramoth gilead ,therefore it seems unlikely that jezebel could have been killed and eaten by dogs while ahab was the king.it seem again that the levites were trying to establish the validity of Yahweh and his prophet,Elisha .
The second version is a obvious attempt to rewrite history and show elisha’s prophecy to be true and to erase the influence of the mother goddess under jezebel.that this version is a fabrication is shown by the true circumstances surrounding this event that are written in the black stone obelisk of Shalamanser III, the inscribed stone stella of king mesha and the clay tablets of the archive of akhnaton. the scripture including these verses were not written down for 500-700 years after the facts.
What is clear is that the levites wrote these books to exclude the importance of the mother goddess religion, to continue their supplanting of the religious life of the Hebrew peoples with the cult god Yahweh.
This obfuscation of history continues into modern times.
It is interesting that Darwin’s theory of evolution was really formulated to replace the concept of a creator god with a purposeless, random, moral framework. This is just the moral framework that the robber barons and merchants of death needed to convince humanity that lies, deceit,greed and death by wars are the “natural” state pf humanity.
 
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on page 93 of his book Ramese and His Times, dr Velikovsky wrote:

"by the same black magic that has distorted the past of mankind by 5 to 8 centuries ,this first hand material was ascribed to the wrong millennium and to the wrong people."
here is talking about the misidentified Hittite empire, but the importance is that this is the only time I had ever read dr velikovsky use the term black magic. dr velikovsky never veered off from scientific explainable cause and effect but here he was using concepts that I have used to describe the dominance and rulership of our civilization by "black magicians ".

but what purpose would the fraud of science serve, especially the fallacious counting of ancient times?
To answer this, we must start a point of irrefutable censorship or misrepresentation.
Dr Immanuel velikovsky saw that the time line of the middle east is off by 6oo-800 years. He presents the evidence both archeologically and scholarly of this archeoloogical mistake by analyzing the El Amarna cuneiform tablets of the library at Akhet-aton, the city of the 18th dynastyking,Akhnaton .
These tablets contain correspondences with the king of samaria, king of Jerusalem, 2 king of Damascus.king of cyprus and several more rulers and reference to the king of Moab. These correspondences correlate with scripture in 11kings and 11chronicle.
In addition there are other inscriptions from shalmaneser111 and form the stella of king mesha that give independent historical perspectives of the 9th century bc, the time of ankhnaten, king ahab of Israel , king Jehoshaphat of judah ,shalamanser III king of the assyrians .

The point of reference in time to begin searching the reason for the misrepresentation of the historical records begins with two scriptural references to the battle at ramoth-gilead between the alliance of king ahab and king jehoshasphat against the king of damascus who the scriptures call ben-hadad.

1 Kings 22:29-36 34………………………………. But someone drew his bow at random and hit the king of Israel between the sections of his armor. The king told his chariot driver, “Wheel around and get me out of the fighting. I’ve been wounded.” 35 All day long the battle raged, and the king was propped up in his chariot facing the Arameans. The blood from his wound ran onto the floor of the chariot, and that evening he died. 36 As the sun was setting, a cry spread through the army: “Every man to his town. Every man to his land!”

The discrepancy is that ahab is wounded In battle and leaves the field of combat But the next line tells of ahab staying in the field of combat and dying.
. But other sources tell of Ahab recovering and going on to live for 1-2 years after Jehoshaphat dies. This scriptural difference about ahabs death results in the next discrepancies in the scriptures.

II kings 1:17 and jehoram reigned in his(Ahaziah’s-ahabs son))stead in the second year of jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat king of Judah.
Ii Kings 3:1 now jehoram the son of ahab began to reign over Israel in samaria in the eighteenth year of Jehoshaphat of Judah.
Jehoshaphat ruled for 25 years as stated in II chronicles 20:31.

The first version, 1:17,has jehoram reigning in samaria after the son of ahab(ahaziah) ruled for a short time after the death of ahab a few years after the death of Jehoshaphat. This places jehoram’s reign approximately 9 years after the battle at ramoth gilead.
The second version,3:1, has jehoram reign from the supposed death of ahab at the battle of ramoth gilead in the 18th years of Jehoshaphat . so here jehoram started his reign 7 years before the time given in the the first version. Dr velikovsky states that the first briefer versions is the older of the two versions.

Dr velikovsky further points out that because there is confusion about who reigned after the battle of Ramoth Gilead , after the battle ,in the scriptures, the king of Samaria is never named. Throughout the further scriptures it is stated the king of Judah was Jehoshaphat but the king of israel is never called by name. this is probably because the scribes were confused by the two versions of scripture and therefore did not know who was the king of Samaria .
The 9 year discrepancy becomes a land mark because most of the letters from the El Amarna tablets pertain to these years.

Another problem is that jehoram was Jehoshaphat’s son not ahabs son as written in 11chronicles 21:6.

Two other ancient archeological inscriptions also show that the version of Abab dying is false.
The inscriptions on black obelisk of shalmanser III records that in his 6th year he battled a coalition of Syrian and Palestinian princes at karkar.ahab had 10,000 soldiers and 2,000 chariots. In the 18th year of his reign shalmanser received tribute from jehu of the house of omni(ahabs father). This 12 years period shows that there is not enough time for ahaziah reigning 2 years and jehoram ruling 12 years and jehu ruling some unspecified time. This totals up to more than the 12 years recorded by shalmanser III between ahab and jehu.

In addition the king of moab,mesha, rebelled against Jehoshaphat and he had a stella made ,recording his conquest of samaria and Judah. Mesha’s stella says that he revolted in the middle of the reign of omni’s son,(ahab). But the false version of II kings states that mesha rebelled after ahab died in battle. clearly this is false.

Finally king ahab wrote a letter to ahknaton from the city of sidon.his wife jezebel was the daughter of the king of sidon and in his old age he left his city of gubla capital of Israel when the forces of the king of Syria were closing in on him. So there is evidence in the form of a cuneiform tablet, ahab did not die at ramoth gilead and lived to a old age though in exile.

The el amarna tablets are written in Assyro-babylonian(akkadian), so there is no confusion about what is written. In the letters from sumer-sumura-samaria ,the king’s name is Rib-Addi. kings had 5 -9 different names and some the names given in the scriptures are not even correct because many of the Hebrew kings names were given 5-6 hundred years later when the scriptures were written down. Rib-Addi means “the elder brother of the father. Ahab in Hebrew means Ah-brother Ab -father .
It is not certain that Jehoshaphat’s was the original name of the king of Jerusalem as it was probably given centuries later to commemorate Jehoshaphat’s devotion to Yahweh as it means” yahwe is the judge”.it was Jehoshaphat that sent the laws of yahwe to the princes of the city states and he also established a court for the laws of yahwe. His name in the el Amarna letters was Abdi-Hiba king of Jerusalem but as the cuneiform texts can be translate alphabetically or pictographically, there are several ways to translate the name. one method of Jehoshaphat’s name in Hebrew is ebed-tov which means good servant.other variation of abdi-hiba are puti-hiba, aradhepa or arthahepa
Akhnaton’s throne name in the letters was naphuria and hisfather, amenhotep was called nimmuria. But in none of the correspondences was the names akhnaton or amenhotep used
The tablets reveal correspondence with the king of sumura( samaria) and the king of urusalim(Jerusalem), there is no mistake. But if ankhnaton lived in the 15th century bc… then there was no city of Jerusalem, there was noof country of or samaria/israel or Judah.
In addition Hebrew loan words were used in the letters, the Hebrew used was a Syrian dialect. yet in 1500 bc the Hebrew language did not exist not did the historical Hebrews for that matter.
The el Amarna letters parallel much of the history recorded in II chronicle and II kings
In the 9th bc the kings of Palestine and Syria were vassals of the king of Egypt. the king of Egypt had governors in palaces of the kings. the exception was Jerusalem as the king there had no governor in his citythough he was too a vassal, the king had more autonomy that the other kings of the regions.
The scriptures downplay if not out right ignores the political reality of those times.
For example in II chronicles 17:14-19 Jehoshaphat’s captains are enumerated as Adnan, jehohanan ,amasiah son of zichri, eliada and jehozabad.
But these captains were beholding to the king of Egypt and 3 of them wrote directly to the pharaoh in the discussion of military matters.
Their names in the el Amarna letters were addudani for adna. A Assyrian inscriptions names ada danu as a prince of gaza(palestine).the son of zichri is called the son of zuchru in the el armarna letters. jehozabad is called iahzibada vin these letters . these were chiefs of the army but they corresponded directly with the king of Egypt ,though their expressions of obeisance to the king of Egypt show they were in a subordinate position compared to the king of Jerusalem.
Another example is from II chronicles 18:25: then the king of Israel said ,take thou micah (the prophet) and carry him back to Amon the governor of the city and to joash the king’s son.”
Here the name amon marks the man as Egyptian and it is stated he was the governor . but it is not made clear that amon was a governor appointed by the king of Egypt. In fact in this time the king of Egypt was responsible for naming the new kings after a death of a king. This is mentioned in chronicles. amon as a functionary of the king of Egypt wrote letters to the king. In these letters his name was aman-appa. Amon was for attacking the king of Damascus but the prophet micah preached to jehoshaphat against war with Damascus. This is why in the above quote(II Chronicles17:14-19 ) that micah was given to amon to carry him away to the city. Amon’s (aman-appa) seniority over the king is shown because he is named before the king’s son joash. This is another example of the fact that the kings of Palestine were vassal.the king of sumara/samaria and Jerusalem also had lessor vassal princes that brought them tribute.
Mesha king of moab was a vassal to jehoshaphat .II kings 3:4and mesha king of moab was a sheepmaster and rendered to the king of Israel a hundred thousand lambs and a hundred thousand rams with wool.
The correlations with book of chronicle and kings with the Amarna letters goes on and on.
Both speak of two invasions by the king of Damascus/Syria(ben hadad)
I Kings 20:1 and ben hadad the king of Syria gathered all his host together: and there were thirty and two kings with him.and horses and chariots
EL Amarna Letter 90 : all the major chieftains are one with Abdi-Asshirta(the scriptures call the king of syria/Damascus:ben hadad.josephus flavius quoting a older source wrote that ben hadad was the generic name for the king of Damascus. in the el Amarna letters ,it is recorded that there were two kings of Damascus mentioned adbi-ashirta/abduastarti and his son azura/hazael. But dr velikovsky pointed out that for unknown reasons the scribes of the scriptures called both kings of Damascus ben hadad. Later scriptural researchers’ labeled them ben hadad I and ben Hadad II.) .many EL Amarna letters said” hostility against sumur has become very great
I Kings 20:19 so these young men of the governors of the provinces came out of the city and the army followed them.12 and the king of Israel went out and smote the horses and chariots and slew the Syrians with a great slaughter.
Here again, the young men of the governors were the elite guards of the Egyptian governors . there were usually less than 100 men but they had the backing of the Egyptian army. when the “young men of the governors” appeared on the field of battle, the opposing forces usually ran away because they knew the forces of the pharaoh were behind them.
Letter 120” who can stand against the soldier’s of the king”(Egyptian king)
Letter 138: formerly abdi-ashirta conquered sumurri,I protected the city by my own hand. I had no garrison.but I wrote the king(ankhnaton).my , lord,and soldiers came and thy took sumuri
the king of Damascus had taken sumuri/samaria and it was with the Egyptian royal troops that the king of Damascus was driven back out of sumuri. The scriptures are written in such a way that it seems that the king of Israel /ahab, drove the Syrians back by himself but that was not the case as the el Amarna letters reveal.
A year after the previous battle the Syrians attacked again.they Syrians were defeated again
This time the king of Damascus was captured but king ahab instead of killing him, established a covenant and let the king of Damascus go free.
I Kings 20:31-34……….”the kings of the house are merciful kings..go out to the kiing of Israel……..came to the king of israel and said,thy servant ben hadad saith, I pray thee,let me live. And he said,is he yet alive? he is my brother. Now the men did diligently observe… and did hastily catch it: and they said Thy brother ben hadad.then he said go ye, bring him.then ben hadad came forth to him and he caused him to come up into the chariot. And ben hadad said unto him, the cities which my father took from thy father,I will restore: and thou shall make the streets for thee in Damascus as my father made in Samaria. And then said Ahab, I will send thee away with this covenant.so he made a covenant with him and sent him away
This incident is also recorded in the el armarna letters
:letter 117 abdi-ashirta(king of Damascus, ben hadad),with all his belongings to him,was not then taken,as I have said(Ahab)
But a prophet stopped the king and said I Kings 20-42 :….thy life shall go for his(ben hadad) life and thy people for his people .
The covenant lasted only three years II Kings 22-1:and they continued for three years without way between Syria and Israel . then hostilities began again
Further parallels occur in the Syrian wars.
Letter 81 of ahab to the king of egypt: let the king, my lord,know that powerful is the hostility of abdi-ashirta,and that he has taken all my cities to himself
Letter 85 : if one regent would make a common cause with me, then I would drive adbi-shirta out of amurri(Syria)
I Kings 22:4 and he said to jehospahat ,wilt thou go with me to battle to ramoth-gilead?
Jehosaphat and ahab had hostilities between each other previously. but now jehosaphat(a regent of the king of Egypt) agreed to unite with ahab and fight adbi-ashirta at ramoth-gilead.
Again the hand of the king of Egypt is very important here, but from reading the scriptures ,this would not become immediately apparent .
A famine later struck samaria and this event is recorded both in the scriptures and the el armarna letters .II Kings 8:1 the lord hath called for a famine and it shall also come upon the land seven years.
El armarna letter 79:give me something to feed them. I have nothing
Letter 83……give grain for my provision
Letter 85 :there is no grain for our support.what shall I say to my peasants? their sons and daughters have come to a end…send grain in ships and preserve the life of his servant and his city.

One of the most clear parallels between the scripture and the el Amarna letters concerns the rebellion of the king of moab,mesha. His name is repeated in many of the el armarna letters from ahab and mesha’s rebellion is describe in the scriptures.
II Kings 1:1, 3:5 After the defeat at ramoth gilead,moab rebelled against the king of israel
Letter 68: let the king ,my lord, know….the hostility of the sa.gaz.Mesh troops is very great against me.so let not the king, my lord, hold back from sumur that it be not annexed to the sa.gaz.mesh troops.
letter 69: behold, now they rise up day and night in rebellions against me
Here dr velikovsky had pointed out that the scholars who translated the el Amarna letters placed these letters in the 15th century bc and therefore did not translate sa.gaz. mesh or amelut-gaz-mesh accurately. Sa.gaz-mesh was translates as the sa.gaz people. Mesh is used as a noun not a adjective. And the term gaz-mesha means a man. yet the scholars dropped mesh completely and translated this as the gaz man. When if fact the correct translations is the man called mesh. That is the king of Moab, mesha .

In letter 91 the king of sumer faced defeat at the hands of the rebel mesha:why dost thou sit and hold back,so that he takes thy cities amel-saz-mesh(the rebel mesh),the dog?when he had taken sumura………….so mayest thou give a thousand minas of silver and one hundred minas of gold. Then will he depart from me. And he has taken all my cities

The ransome of gold and siver is alluded to in the scriptures also
I Kings 20: thou shalt deliver me thy siver and thy gold…..
When the king of Jerusalem was under attack: II Chronicles 20:1-3 it came to pass….that the children of moab, and the children of ammon,and with them besides the ammonites came against jehosaphat to battle.then there came some that told jehosphat,saying there cometh a great multitude against thee from beyond the sea,from Syria..and jehosaphat feared
II Chronicles20:6 o lord god of our fathers art not thou god in heaven? And rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? And in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee.
II Chronicles 20:8-9 :and thy people dwelt therein, and I have built thee a sanctuary therein for your name saying,if, when evil cometh upon us and we cry unto thee in our affliction ,then thou wilt hear and help

The el Amarna letter were written to the king of Egypt. The king of Egypt was regarded as a living diety and the letters to the pharaoh have a similar tone as those to the god of Israel.
Letter 288: let the king care for his land. The land of the king will be lost.all if it will be taken from me:there is hostility to me as far as the lands of seeri and even gintikirmil(this is the same region as mount seir-seeri and in both sources this is the area the invaders came from). there is peace for all the regents ,but to me there is hostility.
Letter 287: verily the king has set his name upon the land of urusalim for ever.therefore he cannot abandon the lands of urusalim (Jerusalem )
The appeal to the lord of heaven and the plea to the lord of earth are of the same nature

The el armarna letters and II kings-II chronicles both talk of the plague that struck samaria ,both talk of the famine and drought that struck samaria, both talk about the rebellion of mesha and many more topics are covered in both sources,

So why have the black magicians altered the time line of history by 600-800 years?
The reason was to separate the pharaoh ankhnaton from the times of king ahab and king Jehoshaphat.
This time period is the beginning of the levite belief in one god. at this time all the ancient world was polytheistic .
Yahweh had a consort, asherah in the ninth century and throughout the early history the tribes of israel worshiped the indigenous mother goddess.but the levites wanted to establish their rule over Judah and Israel by raising Yahweh, a cult god, to the creator god and thereby supplant the indigenous mother goddess religion
Excavations in 1976 found pottery shard at Kuntillet `Ajrud with allusions to Yahweh and asherah.
http://wbs.edu/2016/09/pondering-spa...-ajrud-pithoi/
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/...ptian-god-bes/
http://www.lebtahor.com/Archaeology/...scriptions.htm
Asherah is a name for the mother goddess and it is the name for the enclosure that held the sacred serpent. The sacred serpent had always been a feminine symbol until the Yahwistic editors of the torah turned the serpent into a masculine symbol . Asherah is also associated with sacred trees and groves.
How could Yahweh be a creator god when he was a consort to asherah, a mother goddess symbol.
To make Yahweh the sole creator god, the connections between king akhnaton the first monotheist In history, had to be separated from Jehoshaphat and ahab. There could be no connection between the monotheism of ankhnaton and the reign of Jehoshaphat ,who instituted the laws of Yahweh to the cities of Israel.

1 Kings 22:29-36 34 35………………………………. All day long the battle raged, and the king was propped up in his chariot facing the Arameans. The blood from his wound ran onto the floor of the chariot, and that evening he died. The second (accepted story of ahab) dying in battle fulfils a prophecy by Elisha that “.. dogs ‘shall lick thy blood….dogs shall eat Jezebel by the walls of jezreel.”this is a clear attempt to discredit the mother goddess religion, Belial / Beliar /Belias. The second version is a obvious attempt to rewrite history and show elisha’s prophecy to be true and to erase the influence of the mother goddess under jezebel.
As the death of ahab is fabricated, It is likely that the story of jezebel is also fabricated.king ahab reigned for about 9 more years after the event describe a ramoth gilead ,therefore it seems unlikely that jezebel could have been killed and eaten by dogs while ahab was the king.it seem again that the levites were trying to establish the validity of Yahweh and his prophet,Elisha .
The second version is a obvious attempt to rewrite history and show elisha’s prophecy to be true and to erase the influence of the mother goddess under jezebel.that this version is a fabrication is shown by the true circumstances surrounding this event that are written in the black stone obelisk of Shalamanser III, the inscribed stone stella of king mesha and the clay tablets of the archive of akhnaton. the scripture including these verses were not written down for 500-700 years after the facts.
What is clear is that the levites wrote these books to exclude the importance of the mother goddess religion, to continue their supplanting of the religious life of the Hebrew peoples with the cult god Yahweh.
This obfuscation of history continues into modern times.
It is interesting that Darwin’s theory of evolution was really formulated to replace the concept of a creator god with a purposeless, random, moral framework. This is just the moral framework that the robber barons and merchants of death needed to convince humanity that lies, deceit,greed and death by wars are the “natural” state pf humanity.

When does Velikovsky place the Exodus? Also, true monotheism requires that only one god is believed to exist. Ankhenaton considered himself a god, and the Sun-god Ra (or, Re) as well, apart from the Aton--so, not true monotheism. The Hebrew scripture refers to "no other gods before Him", not "no other gods". True monotheism begins with Christianity and Islam, and even the concept of a Trinity is somewhat suspect regarding monotheism.
 
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Culpeper

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Holy walls of text Batman! I do not really see what all this has to do with science. Contradictions of the Bible? Theology?
 

rahu

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When does Velikovsky place the Exodus? Also, true monotheism requires that only one god is believed to exist. Ankhenaton considered himself a god, and the Sun-god Ra (or, Re) as well, apart from the Aton--so, not true monotheism. The Hebrew scripture refers to "no other gods before Him", not "no other gods". True monotheism begins with Christianity and Islam, and even the concept of a Trinity is somewhat suspect regarding monotheism.

dr velikovsky placed the exodus at the beginning of the second intermediate period. which is about 1500 bc using his adjusted historical time line.

dr velikovsky believed that true monotheism did not begin to be conceptualized until the reign of king Hezekiah of judah
about 700 bc.

True monotheism begins with Christianity and Islam

well of course , this assumes that jesus was god which historically is not validated. the church in Jerusalem headed by his brother james did not consider jesus as a god. for that matter jesus only became a god when Constantine forced the bishops of the church to vote jesus as a god.

then Islam as early Christianity is full of lessor spirits/angels or demons/jinns.... so what exactly is monotheism?

akhnaton was the first to place one god to be worshiped to the exclusion of all others. which essentially what Christianity and Islam have done.

rahu
 

rahu

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Holy walls of text Batman! I do not really see what all this has to do with science. Contradictions of the Bible? Theology?

I do not really see what all this has to do with science.

this shows that science is not an empirical, deductive system of thought but only a replacement of the religious impulse of humanity. science has become a religion not a objective parameter of society because science ignores any data that invalidates it's essentially subjective matrix.
rahu
 

david starling

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dr velikovsky placed the exodus at the beginning of the second intermediate period. which is about 1500 bc using his adjusted historical time line.

dr velikovsky believed that true monotheism did not begin to be conceptualized until the reign of king Hezekiah of judah
about 700 bc.

True monotheism begins with Christianity and Islam

well of course , this assumes that jesus was god which historically is not validated. the church in Jerusalem headed by his brother james did not consider jesus as a god. for that matter jesus only became a god when Constantine forced the bishops of the church to vote jesus as a god.

then Islam as early Christianity is full of lessor spirits/angels or demons/jinns.... so what exactly is monotheism?

akhnaton was the first to place one god to be worshiped to the exclusion of all others. which essentially what Christianity and Islam have done.

rahu

Akhnaton never renounced his own status of godhood, and continued to consider Ra a god also. But his concentration was on the Aton, as god of the horizon, which relates to the god Horus. Saying it was monotheistic is an oversimplification. He did stop worshipping Osirus, god of the Underworld.
 

rahu

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Akhnaton never renounced his own status of godhood, and continued to consider Ra a god also. But his concentration was on the Aton, as god of the horizon, which relates to the god Horus. Saying it was monotheistic is an oversimplification. He did stop worshipping Osirus, god of the Underworld.

true there are many viewpoints that can be used to deny he was a monotheist, but the fact remains that he worshiped aton to the exclusion of all others and shut down the temples of these other gods.

then one can point out that his embrace of aton was basically political , a reaction to the control the priesthood of amon had on egypt at the time.

where did you come up with this idea that he kept worshiping Osiris . he still used the established mortuary theology but that is a far cry from saying he was worshipping Osiris.

for that matter , while in Thebes he worshipped the mother goddess to the exclusion of all other gods . this was shown by his temple to amon at thebes. this was the largest temple ever built to amon, but when archeologist arrived on the scene it was just a pile of blocks a mile long and 1/4 mile wide. in the 60's one of the first uses of computers ,in archeology, was used to schematically reconstruction the temple. each remaining block was photographed and categorized by the image thereon. then the archeologist went to every museum and every private collection known to have some of these blocks and photographed them. in the end when the computer reconstructed the temple it was found, that although it was ostensively a temple to amon, the only image in the entire massive temple was the image of Nefertiti, his queen. so it is apparent that at this point he worshipped as Nefertiti as Isis

rahu
 

david starling

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true there are many viewpoints that can be used to deny he was a monotheist, but the fact remains that he worshiped aton to the exclusion of all others and shut down the temples of these other gods.

then one can point out that his embrace of aton was basically political , a reaction to the control the priesthood of amon had on egypt at the time.

where did you come up with this idea that he kept worshiping Osiris . he still used the established mortuary theology but that is a far cry from saying he was worshipping Osiris.

for that matter , while in Thebes he worshipped the mother goddess to the exclusion of all other gods . this was shown by his temple to amon at thebes. this was the largest temple ever built to amon, but when archeologist arrived on the scene it was just a pile of blocks a mile long and 1/4 mile wide. in the 60's one of the first uses of computers ,in archeology, was used to schematically reconstruction the temple. each remaining block was photographed and categorized by the image thereon. then the archeologist went to every museum and every private collection known to have some of these blocks and photographed them. in the end when the computer reconstructed the temple it was found, that although it was ostensively a temple to amon, the only image in the entire massive temple was the image of Nefertiti, his queen. so it is apparent that at this point he worshipped as Nefertiti as Isis

rahu

He stopped worshipping Osirus, as I wrote.
 

Cap

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NEW GENETIC STUDY SERIOUSLY CHALLENGES DARWIN’S ‘THEORY OF EVOLUTION’

In the conventional narrative of how evolution proceeds through survival-of-the-fittest and adaptation to new environments based on random genetic mutations, it is natural to expect that species with large, far-flung populations like ants and humans will become more genetically diverse over time than species who remain in one milieu. But is it true?

“The answer is no,” said Stoeckle, lead author of the study, published in the journal Human Evolution. In fact, the genetic diversity of most species on the planet “is about the same”, no matter their history of migration, relocation or proliferation.

The study’s most startling result, perhaps, is that nine out of 10 species on Earth today, including humans, came into being 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.

“This conclusion is very surprising, and I fought against it as hard as I could,” said David Thaler.

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The picture we get here is that somewhere in the past, no farther back than 200,000 years ago, most or all animal species ‘got started,’ with a mitochondrial clock set to 0. There is evidence that these species ‘started with small founding populations and later expanded,’ and that extreme conditions — like the last ice age — can give rise to a subsequent expansion.

http://www.collective-evolution.com...ously-challenges-darwins-theory-of-evolution/
 

rahu

Banned
17067
(i have mentioned many times that the nasa's plan to go to mars are ridiculous because the cosmic radiation would kill the astronauts log before they reached mars. it would take several miles of lead to surround a spaceship to give enough protection for a flight to mars.

this video below brings some of these points up, but also shows nasa's scientist talking about having to create shielding befor they ca send man to the solar system, mars or the MOON. by inference they are admitting that the moon landings 50 years ago could not have happened rahu)

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2018/06/nasa-admits-we-never-went-to-the-moon-3620212.html

NASA Admits We Never Went to the Moon
 
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david starling

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Nothing can expose one to more ridicule from mainstream America than declaring doubt about the "Astronauts on the Moon". Equivalent to saying you believe the Moon is made of green cheese. My sister said she "feels sorry" for me for doubting it!:sideways:
 

rahu

Banned
Nothing can expose one to more ridicule from mainstream America than declaring doubt about the "Astronauts on the Moon". Equivalent to saying you believe the Moon is made of green cheese. My sister said she "feels sorry" for me for doubting it!:sideways:

your sister probably also believes 300 gallons of keroscene burned down the twin towers
rahu
 

rahu

Banned
She goes with the official version, but the Moon thing is a deal-breaker! :lol:

you might remind her that the Chinese probe that went to the moon photographed the supposed landing point of the Apollo capsule... and found nothing there. there are so many discrepancies with nasa story. for instance nasa has "lost" many of the videos supposedly made on the moon.

it is also ominous that there was a movie made called Capricorn 1 or something that was about the faking of a mars landing. the ominous factor is that O.J.Simpson was in that film. this film was about 20 years before he killed his wife and her lover and got away with it.

rahu
 

rahu

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https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/06/23/nikola-tesla-and-albert-einstein/

Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein

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VT Senior Editors -

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By Rand Clifford for Veterans Today
When Albert Einstein was asked how it felt to be the “smartest person alive”, Einstein replied: “I don’t know, you’ll have to ask Nikola Tesla.”
Certain scholars question the validity of this exchange, largely because Tesla…well, in 1934, on his 79th birthday, Tesla called Einstein’s Relativity Theory “…a beggar wrapped in purple whom ignorant people take for a king.”
Other Tesla quotes amid his public disagreement with Einstein, regarding Relativity Theory:
— “…a mass of error and deceptive ideas violently opposed to the teachings of great men of science of the past and even to common sense…the theory wraps all these errors and fallacies and clothes them in magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. Its exponents are very brilliant men, but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists.”
— “Not a single one of the relativity propositions has been proved.” (NYT, 7/11/1935, p. 23).
Einstein was obviously smarter than any of us; his “I don’t know, you’ll have to ask Nikola Tesla” is certainly proof both subtle and profound. Perhaps it all depends on the definition of, “smart”?
Reverence of Einstein, historically and publicly seems rather full-scope. His eminence has been welded into the public mind by those who control the public mind, the Power Status Quo (PSQ).
Tesla is exactly the opposite; evidence remains overwhelming. Try to find people today with any understanding of Nikola Tesla—I did just that, yesterday, at Spokane’s Northtown Mall. I approached people seeming approachable with a simple question: “What does the name ‘Tesla’ mean to you?”
Interacting only with people without a phone in hand, I was, eventually, able to find 66 people with their hands (and minds?) unencumbered. Two trends emerged; for people under thirty, not a single one deviated from the: “…electric cars, battery fires, autopilot crashes” PSQ narratives.
However, I was able to find 3 people that replied: “Nikola Tesla”. All middle-aged vintage. Yes, five percent were actually aware of, perhaps, humanity’s most important person, Nikola Tesla.
Sure, a tiny random sample. But success of the PSQ’s operation to excise Nikola Tesla from the public mind was clearly suggested. Reminiscent of Pink Floyd’s immortal song, Brain Damage (from Dark Side of the Moon).
So why has the man Einstein declared the smartest person alive so attacked by the PSQ—virtually to the cusp of being an unperson?
One thing right up front exemplifying Tesla’s clash with the PSQ was his often repeated:
“Science is but a perversion of itself unless it has as its ultimate goal the betterment of humanity.”
Meanwhile, the PSQ remains obsessed with their: “Arrested human development.” Please consider this quote from William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987: “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
Of course from the PSQ there is rhetoric regarding authenticity of Casey’s trumpeting of truth. However, virtually all evidence/truth of our current mire confirms Casey’s trumpet.
Perhaps this letter signed by Einstein characterizes what the PSQ would rather hear:
Albert Einstein
Old Grove Rd.
Nassau Point
Peconic, Long Island
August 2nd, 1939
F.D. Roosevelt,
President of the United States,
White House
Washington, D.C.
Sir:
Some recent work by E. Fermi and L. Szilard, which has been communicated to me in manuscript, leads me to expect that the element uranium may be turned into a new and important source of energy in the immediate future. Certain aspects of the situation which has arisen seem to call for watchfulness and, if necessary, quick action on the part of the Administration. I believe therefore that it is my duty to bring to your attention the following facts and recommendations:
In the course of the last four months it has been made probable—through the work of Joliot in France as well as Fermi and Szilard in America—that it may become possible to set up a nuclear chain reaction in a large mass of uranium by which vast amounts of power and large quantities of new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.
This phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs, and it is conceivable—though much less certain—that extremely powerful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However, such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by air.
The United States has only very poor ores of uranium in moderate quantities. There is some good ore in Canada and the former Czechoslovakia, while the most important source of uranium is Belgian Congo.
In view of this situation you may think it desirable to have some permanent contact maintained between the Administration and the group of physicists working on chain reactions in America. One possible way of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial capacity. His task might comprise the following:
a) to approach Government Departments, keep them informed of the further development, and put forward recommendations for Government action, giving particular attention to the problem of securing a supply of uranium ore for the United States.
b) to speed up the experimental work, which is at present being carried on within the limits of the budgets of University laboratories, by providing funds, if such funds be required, through his contacts with private persons who are willing to make contributions for this cause, and perhaps also by obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories which have the necessary equipment.
I understand that Germany has actually stopped the sale of uranium from the Czechoslovakian mines which she has taken over. That she should have taken such early action might perhaps be understood on the ground that the son of the German Under-Secretary of State, von Weizsäcker, is attached to the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Institut in Berlin where some of the American work on uranium is now being repeated.
Yours very truly,
Albert Einstein
Einstein himself must have lost some PSQ favor with such later public declarations: “I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
And: “Nuclear power is one hell of a way to boil water.”
Tesla’s elegant quote about his suppression by the PSQ: “I am unwilling to accord to some small-minded and jealous individuals the satisfaction of having thwarted my efforts. These men are to me nothing more than microbes of a nasty disease.”
 
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